From: Gretchen Miller <grm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon,  6 Dec 1993 18:18:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: H-Costume Digest, Volume 13, 12/6/93 

The Historic Costume List Digest, Volume 13, December 6, 1993

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Topics:

Comments on Lady's Gallery and various neat stuff
Lawn and drafting linen
Highland Hose
Review of Historic Patterns Catalog
Mistress Catriona's Books Handout, Info and Permissions
One more Biography

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 20:22:35 PST
From: aterry@Teknowledge.COM (Allan Terry)
Subject: Various subjects

 Dawn Devine asked whether it's worth subscribing to the Lady's Gallery.
Although I buy almost everything I can find on vintage clothing and
historic costume, I decided not to subscribe.  I talked to the editor a
number of times when they started up--I'm a journalist and was trying to
sell her articles.  My hunch, as a publishing professional, is that they
will be out of business shortly.  For four reasons:

*  They started with no experience in any area of publishing, and very
little experience in business.  They didn't even know how to use a 
computer.

*  There are two partners in different states.  They communicate poorly,
don't make decisions togther, and are generally flaky.

*  They are spending a lot of money.  Four-color printing is very expensive.

*  They are not doing much to make money.  They are not advertising
their magazine much, or soliciting ads to put in it.  Ads pay most of a
magazine's costs; subscriptions merely guarantee that the advertisers
get a certain number of readers.  Judging from the size of the ads in
their first two issues, the ads are basically being given away.  New
magazines often do this for a little while, but it's ruinous to give
away ads for long.

I may be wrong of course.  I'm very cautious about risking my money or,
as a writer, my time.  (A magazine that accepts articles, sits on them
for a year, then goes out of business when it's too late to sell them
elsewhere can be a real pain.)

I have the Grace and Favour book and it's marvelous.  A lush color
exhibit catalog plus four academic essays.

People have mentioned the Patchworks fabrics advertised recently.  I
bought two big swatch collections--"Pre-1890s" and "Turn of the
Century."  I have not compared the designs and colors to those in my
textile reference books, but they look plausible.  The designs are not
dated; that is, you don't know what decade any "Pre-1890s" sample is
from.  The fabrics are all thin cotton and the designs mostly tiny
prints, with a few small stripes and plaids and some coordinating
solids.  There are additional swatch collections--I just bought two of
the biggest.

I signed up for the vintage clothing mailing list about two weeks ago
but haven't received any messages.  Did my sign-up fail, or is the list
inactive?

Fran

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Date: 03 Dec 1993 23:17:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Marjorie <MLWILSER%SJSUVM1.BITNET@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU>
Subject: Smithsonian handouts

Hi Diane!

A BIG thank-you for the info about Smithsonian's tip sheets!  Too often
people who love costumes are uninformed about care for originals.  I run
into more people with questions...and I know I'm not as informed as I
could be, either.

Excellent service you're performing!  Thanks!

      ==Marjorie

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Date: 03 Dec 1993 23:39:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Marjorie <MLWILSER%SJSUVM1.BITNET@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU>
Subject: lawn & other delights

Gina Balestraci talks about what lawn is... the consensus matches what
I've always thought of as "lawn".  One more source, which is drying up
and blowing away:

*Drafting linen* from before pen plotter paper and other modern types.

A friend of mine bought some rolls at closeout prices, and once you beat
and hot water the STARCH out, it is *lovely* stuff, and real close to
fine lawn.

Basically, it's fine fabric heavily impregnated with starch: acts like
heavy vellum or something -- until beaten and bathed.

If anyone has access to old drafting supplies... get it while its hot! 

(PS not gonna be easy to find... but worth the effort) =+marjorie

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 19:04:01 -0500
From: nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)
Subject: Highland hose

 From: tjshadb@ecto.ca.sandia.gov (Troy J. Shadbolt)
 
 ....what 
 I really need are socks (silly, huh)  The problem is they need to be
 just below the knee, and in the argyle version of the clan plaid, which
 isn't a big deal; except when you've used the evening formal version of
 the plaid. So does anyone have a source for Scottish odds 'n sods?  Much
 appreciated.

A few points: 

1. According to 20th century custom, the "formal evening version" is for
use in women's clothing and not men's.  I suspect that was the case in
the early 19th century as well.  Of course you don't need to hear that
now.

2. If you want the same tartan on the hose, for some reason, you will
probably have to have them knit for you, or cut then from the piece, on
the bias.

3. You might look into diced hose.  They are pricey -- my pair cost me
C$85 -- hand-knit items which come from Scotland.  Mine are Gordon
pattern -- red and black.  Other regiments wear red and white.  I was
talking with the chairman of the committee which is determining the
changes in the kit of the Queen's Own Highlanders now that they are
going to absorb the Gordons, and they have not yet determined which
Gordon elements are going to be incorporated. This will have some impact
on the availability of red and black diced hose.  

 Diced hose were certainly worn during the revival of Highland costume
in the early 19th century.

4. You might also look into Lovat hose.  My regiment wears these with
service dress, and they can be had with all sorts of fancy knitting.

 I have no idea of the antiquity of Lovat hose.
 
5. In all events, my diced hose came from:
 Mac Neil's Scottish Imports
 1825 Avenue Road
 Toronto, Ontario
 Canada M5M 3Z4. 
 
Best of luck,

Aryk Nusbacher

 
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 21:31:56 PST
From: aterry@Teknowledge.COM (Allan Terry)
Subject: Pattern review

A few months ago, a new historic pattern company called L'Victorian
Couturier advertised in Threads magazine.  I sent for their catalog, was
put off by its amateurish drawings and high pattern prices, and put it
away.  A few weeks ago, a company called Historic Patterns advertised in
Threads. After sending for their catalog, I noticed the address was the
same as L'Victorian Couturier.  The new catalog arrived today; here is
my review of it.

The new catalog carries about the same patterns as the old one, though a
couple have been dropped or changed.  There are five dress patterns,
three blouse patterns, a corset pattern, and four lingerie patterns. 
Most of the styles are circa 1900, but there is one early 1910s dress
pattern.  The lingerie styles are similar to those from Folkwear and
Past Patterns. The dresses and blouses offer some variety.  The catalog
is oriented toward brides; the styles have names like "Heavenly" and
"Romance."  The catalog says that "original garments were used for the
designs" but there's no more information about the originals.  The
styles are not dated.  There is no size chart or indication of what
sizes the patterns are available in.

Of interest is the fact that the prices, although not cheap, are much
lower. One dress pattern that cost $52 in the first catalog is now
$26.50; another that used to cost $48.50 is also $26.50.  

The catalog comes with a complimentary corset cover pattern, valued at
$12.50.  The corset cover is a slightly modified rectangle to be
gathered at the top and bottom--a common Edwardian style.  It is in one
size; a pattern note says it "fits comfortably 35 to 36" bust with
normal waist length." The pattern is drawn in fine felt-tip pen and
photocopied onto two sheets of copier paper to be taped together. There
is also a one-page instruction sheet. Part of the materials list and
instructions are on the sheet and part are written onto the pattern. 
The illustrations on the instruction sheet are primarily
ornamental--Dover clip art.  With a bit of mental effort the
instructions are adequate, but this pattern doesn't need elaborate
instructions.  I have not made it up or tested its fit.

The styles are also available custom made.  Dresses cost from $850 to
$995, depending on the style.  It is possible that the lack of
information on pattern sizing means the business is more focused on
making clothes than making patterns.

The production values of the catalog and pattern are low, which
prejudiced me against it.  I feel the catalog is aimed at well-heeled
brides, but is not slick enough to succeed in that market.  However,
it's possible that the patterns are no worse than those from some other
historic pattern companies.  Pattern-drafting skill is different from
drawing and writing skills (which the pattern designer clearly lacks). 
I do think the lack of sizing indicates unawareness of the typical
sewer's needs.

If you want to see the catalog for yourself, send a check for $4.50 to:

Historic Patterns
5150 Mae Anne Ave. 213-118
Reno, NV 89523

You will also receive a miniature candy cane in a ribbon-tied plastic
packet, though mine didn't make it through the mail too well.

Fran

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 21:18:29 -0500
From: pboynton@sescva.esc.edu (ROWENA NI DHONNCHAIDH)
Subject: Book Handout

 To all of you that I sent this to privately, I apologise, but mail
bounced back from several people.  So for the people that I cannot seem
to get to, I am posting Mistress Catriona's SCA handout.

 I have permission to share this.  Mistress Catriona compiled it to
teach a class on Garb research, and gives it away as a handout.  
However, if you use it for more than just for your own information,
please give her all appropriate credit.

Most of the typos are my fault.   Rowena

                        GARB RESEARCH
     by Mistress Catriona Mairghread nic Dhuibh of Moray

     The following list has been compiled to list some of the books I've
used in researching garb for the past 24 years. They are all from my
personal library.  There are many more books available and with a little
time any one can find them (if you find something, please let me know!)

     The sources for these books have been bookstores around the
country.  I haunt book stores.  Used book stores are a god-send.  Very
often you can get something wonderful for nothing - or at least for a
fraction of its original price.

     The public library is even more wonderful.  It is free. Armed with
money for the copier, you can come awaywith information from
out-of-print books, and rare books for a fraction of even the used-book
prices - a ream of your own "artwork", thanks to Lord Xerox the
Repetitive... and think
of all the clutter you'll be avoiding at home.

                     PATTERN INFORMATION
     Before you cut your fabric to make the garb, you must have a
pattern.  The following information, patterns to enlarge and change,
sewing techniques & hits to do a particular style.  I use them together
to give me abroad idea as to cut & fit & silhouette, based upon the
research I've
done on available paintings & artwork.
     Costumers' Handbook: Ingham, Rosemary, & Covey,
Elizabethan.   Englewood Cliffs, NJ  Prentice Hall   1980
     Elizabethan Costuming:  Winter, Janet & Savoy, Carolyn.
Oakland, CA.   Other Times Publications   1987
     Evolution of Fashion - Pattern & Cut From 1066 to 1930
Hill, Margot Hamilton and Bucknell, Peter A.  NY  Drama Books
     Fitting & Pattern Alteration:  A Multi-Method Approach
Liechty, E.G., Pottberg, D.N., and Rasband, J.A
NY,  Fairchild Publications,   1986
     Patterns of Fashion:  1560-1620:    Arnold, Janet
NY  Drama Books,   1985
     Patterns for Theatrical Costumes : Holkeboer, Katherine
Englewood Cliffs, NY   Prentice Hall,  1984
     Period Costumes for Stage & Screen
     Patterns for Women's Dress   1500-1800
Hunnnisett, Jean.  London, Bell & Hyman,  1986
     Period Patterns :  Edson, Doris, & Barton, Lucy
Walter H. Baker & Co.   1942
     Practical Approach to Costume Design & Construction, 2v
Thomas, Beverly Jane.    Allyn & Bacon, Inc.   1982
     History of Costume :   Payne, Blanche
Harper & Row,  1965

                        GENERAL SURVEY

     These books give an overview of fashion history in the broadest
sense.  The advantage of having several of these books available is
mainly in the overlap of available material.  One book may have a
particular painting in a 2x2" black & white photo, and another may give
you the same
painting reproduced in full color in 8 1/2 x 11".
     Please be aware of redrawings - particularly from the 18th and 19th
and early 20th centuries have a tendency to be inaccurate.  Redrawings
are usually done by an artist with one eye on his own contemporary views
of beauty.... But if you know what you are looking for, and use sources
conteporary with your period, even a general fashion survey can be of
great help.
     The Book of Costume   Davenport, Millik
CCrown Publishers,  1948
     A Concise History of Costume & Fashion
Laver, James.    Harry N. Abrams Inc.,  1969
     History of Costume ;  Kohler, Carl
Dover, 1963  (originally published 1928)
     Fashion:  From Ancient Egypt to the Present Day
Contini, Mila.    London,  Paul Hamlyn   1965
     A History of Fashion    (IGNORE the Victorian Etchings!)
Black, J. ANderson & Garland, Madge,  William Morrow & CO.
     Mirror, Mirror:  A Social History of Fashion
Battersberry, Michael & Ariane.  Holt Rinehart & Winston  77
     Short History of Costume & Armour:  1066-1800
Kelly,Franics M.  And Schwabe, Randolph.  Arco Publishing  66
     20,000 Years of Fashion     Boucher, Francois
Harry N. Abrams,  1966

                          ART BOOKS
     And on the eighth day, God created the "art book"...
     This is a broad category, only slightly less general than a survey
of costume history.  They give you an outline of a specific location,
time period or subject, and gives you much information about the
location, time period or subject.
     ?
Unfortunately, you have to cull the non-garb information - eg. map
making, glass blowing, or furniture styles.  But often this kind of
information gives you a "feel" for the period you wish to research.
     Age of the Renaissance     Hay, Denys  (editor)
McGraw Hill,   1987
     Falconry and Art     DeChamerlat, Christian Antoine
London, Sotherby's        1987
     The Renaissance in the North    The Metropolitan Museum
of Art,  NY     1987
     The Renaissance and Mannerism in Italy   Smart,Alastaire
London,  Thames & Hudson     1971
     National Portrait Gallery Collection   Foister, Susan
Cambridge University Press,   1988
                        ART MONOGRAPHS

     Pick a painter .... any painter...   and you will probably be able
to find a monograph about hime/her and the extant work of his/her hand.

     This is probably the BEST reference.  Look for large books with
color plates, or clear black & white reproductions.

     Very often these books are often available only in non- English
editions, but if the plates are good enough, it is worth the annoyance
of working with a good dictionary to understand the text.

     Arm yourself with a good quality magnifying glass and make as many
notes as you can about what you see.  You would be surprised what kind
of tailoring hints can be found in a painting...

     A Monograph also gives yo an immediate idea of a painter's style. 
Most important is his attention to detail. Remember the more "realistic"
the style, the easier it is to make garb from the painting.

     Sfonisba, Anguissola,  First Great Woman Artist of the
Renaissance                Perlingier, Ilya Sandra
NY,  Rizzoli,  1992
     Bronzino        McCourqudale, Charles
harper & Row,  1981
     Carpaccio      Valconover, Francesco
Florence,  Scala/Riverside   1989
     Durer, The Complete Paintings of    Smith, Alistair
Penguin Books,  1986      (originally published in 1968)
     Filippo Lippi        Fossi, Gloria
Florence,  Scala/Riverside    1989
     Giotto         Bellosi, Luciano
Florence,   Scala/Riverside    1981
     Holbein                Boureanu, Radu
London,  Abbey Library   1977
     Holbein:   Portrait Drawings
DOver Publishing,   1985
     Simone Martini         Jannella, Cecilia
Florence,  Scala/Riverside    1989
     Raphael               Cocke, Richard & Vecchi, Peirkigi
Penguin Books   1987  (first published 1966)
     Titian  (The World of Titian)      Williams, Jay
Time-Life Books,  1968
     The Van Eycks     Hughes, Robert and Faggin, Giorgia T.
Penguin Books   1968

                        PORTRAIT BOOKS

     Portraiture was not considered a fine art until the Renaissance. 
Thses paintings eternally record what a person - usually in the upper
class or nobility - wore.  These portraits are usually full of symbolism
which will help you understand a little about the sitter, the painter,
and the times in which they painting was done.

     From the portraits you can get the perfect idea for not only the
clothing of a period, but the nuances of location (what would the sitter
wear if he was English and NOT German) personality & experience (had the
sitter just gotten back from Italy? His clothes may have an Itlaian
influence just because of that), hair styles, accessories, hats,
headresses, shoes, jewelry, & marital status.

     Check books for any information on retouching of paintings or
restoration - and that is a lecture in and of itself!

     English Icon:  Elizabethan & Jacobean Portraiture
Strong, Roy.   Yale University Press,  1969
     Renaissance Portraits     Campbell, Lorne
Yale University Press,     1990
     National Portrait Gallery Collection   Foister, Susan
Cambridge University Press,    1988

                        MEDIEVAL GARB

     The following books are based upon medieval illuminated
manuscripts.  They are not only a source of information for court garb,
but for the clothing of the  middle and lower classes.

     Arthurian Book of Days     Matthews, Caitlin & John
Macmillan,  1990
     Medieval Book of Seasons    Collins, Marie & Davis,
Virginia.     Harper Collins,   1992
     Medieval Hunting Scenes:  The Hunting Book
Bise, Gabriel & Phoebus, Gaston.
Geneva,    Editions Minerva,  SA    1978
     Trades & Crafts in Medieval Manuscripts
Basing, Patricia.    New AMsterdam Books,   1990

                       SPECIALTY BOOKS

     There are books that specialize in one aspect of fashion:  hair,
hats, jewelry, etc.  These are a few books which embrace our period of
interest.
     Another type of book can be termed a costume "monograph" - a work
devoted to one location, era, ethnic group or person and his/her
clothing.

     Dress & Undress: A History of Women's Underwear
Ewing, Elizabeth.   Drama Books,  1978
     Encyclopedia of World Costume    Yarwood, Doreen
Scribners,     1978
     Fashions in the Hair:  The First 5000 Years
Corson, Richard.   London, Peter Owen,  1965
     Lost Treasures of Britain     Strong, Roy
Viking Penguin Books,    1990
     Metroplolitan Jewelry      McConnell, Sophie
Bulfinch Press/Little Brown & Co,    1991
     Jewish Costume       Rubens, Alfred
Crown Publisheers,   1967
     Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd
Arnold, Janet.      Leeds,   W.S. Maney & Sons,   1988
     Renaissance Dress in Italy:  1400-1500
Herald, Jacqueline.   Humanities Press,     1981
     Hispanic Costume:   1480-1530
Anderson, Ruth Matilda.    Hispanic Society of America  1979

                      BOOKS TO AVOID (!)

     There are books that have been used as sources in garb research
that are best ignored.  Run, do not walk, away from these.
     Costume books with 19th century engravings of "period" clothing are
very impressive, but as detailed as they seem, they will not accurately
reflect the silhouette of a period.     
 Redrawings from period sources are a nice idea that never works.   It
would be great to be able to group people in the clothes they were
painted in or a single page according to style, location, and time
frame, but the artist invariably leaves something out due to personal
taste or lack of artisitc ability or laziness, OR , worse yet, adds
something that wasn't there at all!!!   (RT Wilcox's drawings all look
like 1950's paper dolls!)
     Anything written without citing primary sources in the bibliography
should be placed back on the shelf where it was found.  It shows the
author relied on someone else's often questionable research and was too
lazy to do his/her own work.  (A photo of a primary source is considered
a primary source for our purposes - a painting, statue, etc., reproduced
in a book.)

     Ancient Costumes of Great Britain and Ireland From the
Druids to the Tudors      Smith, Charles Hamilton
NY     Arch Cape Press/Crown Publishers  1989  (originally
published in 1814)
     Costume Through the Ages       Laver, James & Kiepper,
Erhard.    London: thames & Hudson,   1963
     Historic Costume in Picture      Braun & Schneider
Dover Publications,   1975  (originally published 1861-1890)
     Mode in Costume        Wilcox, Ruth Turner
Scribners,  1958
     Pictorial History of Costume      Bruhn, Wolfgang and
Tilke, Max.    Arch Cape Press,   1988 (originally 1940)

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 21:07:19 -0500
From: pboynton@sescva.esc.edu (ROWENA NI DHONNCHAIDH)
Subject: Mistress Catriona's handout

 To those of you who asked, Mistress Catriona of the SCA grants
permission for her handout to be used or reprinted - after all, she
says, she created it as a teaching tool.  She does ask for copies of
what you print it as or - especially - for any newsletters, etc., that
it is in.

 She also sends apologies that it is as incomplete as it is, it does not
even reflect her current library.  But the general spirit of it should
prove useful.

 She has a Master's from the State University of New York at Binghamton,
in costume, and currently designs clothing for a New York City
manufacturer.  She has made a very generous offer to help anyone with
questions who is willing to correspond with her via regular mail - she
does not have a computer and has no access to this - or any other -
group. And I have to call her long distance, so I can't help very much
either! 

 Her address - for those newsletters, etc., and any one who might like
to write her on anything - is:

 Monica Spence
 70 Redmond Ave.
 Bay Shore
 N.Y.    11706

 By the way, she is a source of a great many things for me, as she
either has them or - because she does line on Long Island and work in
New York City - has access to a lot.
 She recommends calling the Metropolitan Museum and asking for their
book department, as they had been stocking Janet Arnold's book on Queen
Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlocked.
Pamela.

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Date: 06 Dec 1993 10:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: In love with a sculpture of Hermes <MBURNS@smith.smith.edu>
Subject: Well...

...since everybody seems to be doing introductions, allow me to do the same...

My name is Maura Burns, I'm twenty years old and a junior at Smith
College in Northampton, MA.  I grew up around sewing, as my mother
partially supported our family when I was a baby by her quilts and
quilted pieces, and eventually when I evidenced interest, she taught me
how to sew.  I'm still no expert, but I get by.  Although I occasionally
make my own everday clothing, my main interests in the field are in
fantasy and historical costume.  (Yes, yes, I'm in the SCA, I admit it.
:) )  I have made and worn clothing from all kinds of time periods, from
ancient Greek up to post-French Revolution, and am in the middle of my
first Victorian project as well.  I'm particularly interested in sources
to help me with details of my costumes-- authentic trims, shoes, hairdos
(*very* difficult since my hair is short, unfortunately) and the like.
Someday when I have room I'd love to learn to spin and weave my own
fabrics as well.  Other interests include early music, keeping my plant
alive, ancient art & literature (Art History/Ancient Studies major), and
finishing my Latin requirement without going into cardiac arrest.  Let's
see... my favorite color is dark red. :)

Maura
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