From: Gretchen Miller Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 19:28:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: H-Costume Digest, Volume 17, 12/13/93 The Historic Costume List Digest, Volume 17, December 13, 1993 Send items for the list to h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu (or reply to this message). Send subscription/deletion requests and inquiries to h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu For archives of this digest, send mail to close@lunch.asd.sgi.com Thanks and Enjoy! --------------------------------------------------------------- Topics: TV and Film Costume (costume collecting) Book Review: "Man and the Horse: An illustrated history of equestrian apparel" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 10:57:10 PST From: Art Kaufmann Subject: TV & Film Costume Martha asks: > Now, a question: one of my young-uns asked me if I knew what >happens to the costumes in TV and films after they're used. Perhaps >some of you fine folks can help me out here. Claire is seriously >pursuing costume design as a career and I want to support her efforts. I am not a costumer, nor do I play one on TV (or film, for that matter) :^) However, I do live in the "heart of screenland" (Culver City, CA) and have done some TV and movie work, so I've seen the process. Most costumes that are made for a specific project are either stored by the studio or sold off to one of the rental agencies (Western Costume, etc.). Sometimes they go on tour with the film: Some of the costumes from the Disney 3Musketeers are on display at the El Capitan theater. A lot of the costumes used in film are rented from the agencies and just go back. Studios are a lot more careful with costumes than they were in the old days, having seen what a pair of ruby slippers can go for at auction, but there is still some pilfering. Good luck to your student, Martha! Regards, Art Kaufmann (Who had to provide his own costume for "Robin Hood, Men In Tights," but then didn't make it into the final film... probably a good thing!) ---------------------------------------- From: "Sarah Randles" Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:52:16 EST To: h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: TV Costumes On Fri, 10 Dec 93 7:43:48 EST, Martha Stanley wrote: > Now, a question: one of my young-uns asked me if I knew what >happens to the costumes in TV and films after they're used. I believe that the 2nd series of Black Adder (the Elizabethan one) did a full scale raid on the BBC's wardrobe department and re-used many of the costumes from Elizabeth R (the one with Glenda Jackson). The white dress with the organza crossy bits (to be highly technical here) certainly looked familiar. Sarah Randles S.Randles@uts.edu.au ------------------------------ From: ritchiek@sage.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) Subject: history of equestrian apparel-Book review Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:14:28 EST Well things seemed a little slow on the mailing list today so I decided it would be a good time to bring this up. I came across a book in the Library called "Man and the Horse: An illustrated history of equestrian apparel" by Mackay-smith, Alexander : New York Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1984. I checked it out. The pictures were great The book was to go along with a display at the Metropolitan Museum so the illustrations are art work in which people and horses and what they wore is depicted. The text of the book was somewhat lacking I felt. Certain pieces of costume were misnamed with "modern" interpretive names" Such as a pair of silk pantaloon that a lady was thought to have worn under her dress for riding in the seventeenth century were called "Bloomers" a much later garment. The book is interesting but not very well written from costume documentation stand point. Has any one else seen this book? Have any comments, differing views? Does any one else have some good sources for early period equestrian costume? I am mostly interested in thirteenth and fourteenth century, Tudor and Elizabethan particularly women's riding costume and whether the women are potrayed riding astride, sidesaddle, or pillon. These time periods were times of transition for women on horseback as the side saddle came into greater acceptance -Karen Ritchie or Isabeau depending on which newsgroup you read ------------------------End of Volume 17-----------------------------