From: "Philip Edward Cutone, III" Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: H-Costume Digest, Volume 308, 5/19/95 The Historic Costume List Digest, Volume 308, May 19, 1995 Send items for the list to h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu (or reply to this message). Send subscription/deletion requests and inquiries to h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Please note that I am not the usual maintainer. If there is a problem with the digest please let me know (and forgive a few blunders.... :) this digest covers all messages through May 13, not appearing in previous digests. Enjoy! Filip ------------------------------ Topics: Napoleonic Program on PBS Rosaries Clerical cassocks Class and the difficulty of dance White mess kit documentation on maiming Panty hose (old Thread) Rosary Lacey's Costume Wigs Whole Costumer's Catalog ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 08:32:14 -0400 From: Beverly Roden Subject: Napoleonic Program on PBS Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu On Masterpiece Theatre this sunday will be the beginning of a 2nd series of SHARPE programes - (in the US). Set in the Napoleonic wars - the Sharpe books concentrate (in the beginning) on the campaign in Portugal and Spain. I first saw the programme when visiting England 2 years ago. When I returned home, I looked everywhere for the books about Sharpe by Bernard Cornwell, and found MOST of them. They are a well-researched depiction of the life of a Rifleman in the British Army. This week is Sharpe's Company - set at the final storming and taking of the fortress of Badajoz (on the border of Portugal and Spain) - on of the most famous of British Battles of the Napoleonic war. Sharpe (portrayed by Sean Bean) also must face Sergeant Obadiah Hawkeswill as portrayed by Pete Postlethwaite. TV guide says of the sergeant - "who's one of the most rivetingly despicablt TV bad guys you'll see anytime soon. And next week's adventure is a real rouser." (he also faces Sgt. Hawkswill NEXT week!) I write this TV review to alert this list to a well-researched book wihch has been made into a (it seemed to me) a well-researched television program. I noticed the thread on military dress. One of the Sharpe books (not THIS one!) involves a fancy dress party that occurs way behind the lines. Perhaps those familiar with the early 1800's during the napoleonic wars will be so kind as to review the costuming for this list? Beverly Roden ac508@dayton.wright.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 95 8:43:18 EDT From: 2Lt Aryeh JS Nusbacher Subject: Rosaries Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu Remember too that in Reformation England, posession of a rosary was a hanging offence. The embryonic secret service was convinced (with some justification) that one of the primary purposes of the Jesuits was to smuggle rosaries into England. -- Aryk Nusbacher | Post-Graduate War Studies Programme | Royal Military College of Canada | nusbacher-a@rmc.ca Kingston, Ontario http://www.rmc.ca/~nusbache/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 95 8:44:47 EDT From: 2Lt Aryeh JS Nusbacher Subject: Clerical cassocks Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu Anybody know why a cassock has 39 buttons? -- Aryk Nusbacher | Post-Graduate War Studies Programme | Royal Military College of Canada | nusbacher-a@rmc.ca Kingston, Ontario http://www.rmc.ca/~nusbache/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 95 8:57:08 EDT From: 2Lt Aryeh JS Nusbacher Subject: Class and the difficulty of dance Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu > Although the upper > classes in the 18th century did have, in many cases, a great deal of dance > training not all the dances were hard. The minuet is fairly easy, as is the > late-century allemande. Also, although the country dances did not use > walking steps in this period they are quite easy. I've certainly known > modern people who work full time at demanding careers (other than dance) and > also manage to be good at 18th-century dance. An important consideration in examining historical dances is that upper-class dances seem to have changed rapidly; and much of the trick in dance training was not so much in mastering physically difficult tricks, but in keeping au courant with fashionable variations: Knowing the figures for the Mikado Lancers, for instance, when it was de rigeur. -- Aryk Nusbacher | Post-Graduate War Studies Programme | Royal Military College of Canada | nusbacher-a@rmc.ca Kingston, Ontario http://www.rmc.ca/~nusbache/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 95 9:00:11 EDT From: 2Lt Aryeh JS Nusbacher Subject: White mess kit Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu I should add that many regiments wear white cotton drill mess jackets in the summer. I will try to have a couple of mess kit illustrations linked to my home page early in the week upcoming. -- Aryk Nusbacher | Post-Graduate War Studies Programme | Royal Military College of Canada | nusbacher-a@rmc.ca Kingston, Ontario http://www.rmc.ca/~nusbache/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:05:03 -0400 From: Tracy023@aol.com Subject: Re: documentation on maiming Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu I may have missed it but didn't notice anyone mention braces on kids' teeth. Before anyone gets excited and argues that braces are a health tool to improve the bite and prolong the life of the teeth, just ask yourself how often you hear people use the health argument as opposed to "s/he will be so good looking once they get their teeth straightened." And has anyone looked closely at what dentists today put kids through in the name of keeping down the cost of braces? Children are treated like cattle--stacked in rows assembly-line fashion with absolutely no privacy while the dentist further de-humanizes them, rapidly moving from one to another like an automobile worker, tightening bolts on wheels. In one "office", siblings ran uncontrolled through the place, peering ghoulishly into the faces of the children stretched out in the chairs. While searching for an orthodontist who didn't use the cattle pen form of mistreatment, I had two, long-time area dentists tell me that the office set ups are arranged for the convenience of the dentist, not the care of the child and one said he deliberately massed his patients together in a single room because it "intimidated them" and kept them quiet. In these kinds of cases, shy and sensitive boys and girls can feel humiliated--and that's before the dentists get to the physical discomfort. I'm not opposed at all to straightening kids' teeth, but it is one area of "modern medicine" that I think definitely is still in the dark ages and fits the criteria of maiming [mentally and physically] for beautification. Tracy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:05:49 -0500 (EST) From: dbrowne Subject: Re: Panty hose (old Thread) Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu I hate to revive an old thread but I found this in my local paper today and thought it might be interesting. THE HERALD-TIMES May 13, 1995 Bloomington Indiana "HAPPY BIRTHDAY PANTYHOSE" "You pull them. You push them. You wiggle into them. They're pantyhose. And they're 35 years old. It started with a pregnant women. Her name was Ethel Grant. She told her husband girdles hurt her. Her husband owned a mill. He made the first pantyhose. The first product was called Panti-Legs. It came in 12 sizes. 'I can't remember my first pair of pantyhose, but I know I loved them,' said Sally Fulkerson. She has worn pantyhose for 20 years." This appeared in the easy-to-read version of the week's news presented for anyone who is learning to read. No, I don't know who Sally is. No, it doesn't say where Ethel and her husband lived. And no, there isn't a by-line. I plan on calling the local paper the first thing Monday morning and seeing if I can get more information. If there's anything else I will post it. Kathy B Katrinn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:14:50 -0500 (EST) From: dbrowne Subject: Re:Rosary Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu I had forgotten that the address that the Angel used was the same as that from the medallion. And that, would of course, be the orgines of the modern "Hail Mary" used with todays Rosary; I was mearly musing. I agree that a Rosary should be very carefully used as a "prop". I was raised in the Southern Baptest Church but have sence changed my views considerably. In the SCA I have a persona that is early 15th century Itlian and the carring of a Rosary is very appropriate even though my persona is'nt really all that religious. I am careful though not to step on the toes of, or to make fun of anyones religion. Quote for the day: "Where else can a Quaker and a Wiccan debate the differences between the Roman Catholics and the Cathers." Kathy B Katrinn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 19:18:54 -0700 From: LeftyS@eworld.com Subject: RE: Lacey's Costume Wigs Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu In reference to the discussion about wigs. I have ordered wigs from Lacey Costume Wig - (800) 562-9911 or (212) 695-1996. Their wigs work very well for theatrical use. They can easily be styled and hold up for many productions. I highly reccommend them. Stephanie R. Smith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 19:18:54 -0700 From: LeftyS@eworld.com Subject: RE: Whole Costumer's Catalog Reply-To: h-costume+@andrew.cmu.edu I am new to the costume list and I saw someone mention The Whole Costumer's Catalog. I wondered if someone could tell me what this catalog is and where I could locate it. Thank you. Stephanie R. Smith ------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of Volume 308 -----------------------