From: Gretchen Miller Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 19:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: H-Costume Digest, Volume 331, 6/28/95 The Historic Costume List Digest, Volume 331, June 28, 1995 Send items for the list to h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu (or reply to this message). Send subscription/deletion requests and inquiries to h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Enjoy! ------------------------------ Topics: The Bonnie Lass Humor Getting a frock coat in England h-costume bibliography Costume book store info Maternity/Nursing wear Getting the archives Victorian dancing in SF Bay area Heritage gown collection ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARISAID@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 00:22:16 -0400 Subject: The Bonnie Lass Good day to all. I have received many inquiries about my historic Scottish clothing business, The Bonnie Lass.. I do have a new illustrated catalog available as of July 15. The cost is $5.00. I specialize in Historic Scottish women's clothing and ALSO historic Scottish men's attire. I try to be as accurate and authentic as possible in my work (I hold an MA in History and understand the importance of historical integrity!) and I have worked hard in research and development of correct materials, styles, patterns, etc. Some of my offerings for women: arisaids, ketches, tonnags, petticoats, chemises, bodices, etc. For men: doublets, shirts, kilts, jackets, bonnets, plaids, etc. I also have over 400 tartans available! If anyone has questions concerning historic Scottish attire, please feel free to write. If I can't find the answer, I probably can locate someone who can! Also if you are interested in historic clothing, non-Scottish, I also take orders for those! Take Care, Hope to hear from you soon! Karen, owner The Bonnie Lass (arisaid@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 22:22:29 -0700 From: althea_sexton@wsu.edu (Althea Sexton) Subject: Filler: for your funny bone This came across another forum I'm on. I thought I'd pass it on. >Sender: WRITERS >From: tony roberts >>Can anyone tell me what a lurker is? > >As Dances explained, A lurker is someone who sits back reading everything >that is put on WRITERS, but doesn't sub anything themselves. > >What Dances neglected to mention was that many of them are unable to >understand what they read, and this of course explains why they keep asking >how to unsubscribe. > >There are several types of lurker. For example: > >The Puzzled Lurker Would someone tell me how to unsubscribe? > >The No Nonsense Lurker How do I unsubscribe? > >The Agressive Lurker Tell me how to unsubscribe. > >The Safety in numbers Lurker Me too (often spelled to or two). > >The Lazy Lurker Add me. > >The Dyslexic Lurker UNSBUSCRIEB > >The Patient Lurker UNSUBSCRIBE > UNSUBSCRIBE John Smith > Please UNSUBSCRIBE John Smith > UNSUBSCRIBE John Smith Please > Me too. > >The Despairing Lurker Computer for Sale - Cheap > >etc. etc. etc. > >I heard that there is another one: > >The Polite Lurker Would someone please tell me how to >unsubscribe? > >But I've never seen one. > > >Tony > > > > >troberts@awinc.com > > **** Quote for the week **** > >"An author arrives at a good style when his language performs >what is required of it without shyness" > Cyril Connolly > end | Althea L. Sexton | Smash forehead on keyboard to continue . . . | http://134.121.231.75/ppweb.html (It's boring, but it's home :) | ALTHEA_SEXTON@WSU.EDU | ALTHEA@UIDAHO.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 08:28:42 -0700 From: Alexandra.Ohlson@Eng.Sun.COM (Alexandra Rankin Ohlson) Subject: costume books Christina Cary mentioned : >>I have recently bought "400 Years of Fashion" and "Fashion in Detail" from the >>Victoria and Albert Museum, and "Worth to Dior" from a museum in Victoria, >>Australia. Where did you order/buy these books? If you were to make a recommendation, were they all worth it or some better than the others? alexandra p.s. tried to reach you directly via email, but bounced. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:24:36 PDT From: "SNORTON.US.ORACLE.COM" Subject: 1830s Frock Coat in England The Royal National Theatre rents both costumes and furniture. You can hire a single costume. There is a very good chance they would have an 1830s Frock Coat. Their brochure states they have over 60,000 original costumes. The Costume and Furniture Store is located in South London at 1/3 Brixton Road, London SW9 6ED, off Camberwell New Road. Telephone 071 735 4774 or 971 587 0404 (Costumes). FAX 071 829 9324 Good luck. Sally Norton snorton@US.oracle.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Julie Cheetham Subject: Re: h-costume bibliography Cynthia, what a tremendous gift from you and your helpers! Thanks for all the effort compiling the bibliography. You mentioned updating it from time to time. Do you want to take on that task or would another alternative be an "open" bibliography to which others could add according to guidelines established by the list members? I don't know enough about how these things function to know whether this is workable or appropriate, but would be happy to add book listings either through you or directly if a protocol and method were outlined. Thanks again, Julie ------------------------------ From: ccary@tiara.wpd.sgi.com (Christina Cary) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:36:21 -0700 Subject: Fashion Book Source Hi Vintage and Costume lists, At a Vintage Fashion Expo in San Francisco a while back, I picked up a catalog from a place called "Public Work: Fashion Resources." They have a catalog of books on the history of fashion, various designers, hats, jewelry, etc., etc. 350 Bay Street, Ste. 100-170 San Francisco, CA 94133 415/487-6301 Fax: 415/772-9023 Cal. residents add 8.25% sales tax (this may be lower now--call and ask) Shipping is $4 for first book and $1 for each additional. They do book searches, too. The V&A book "400 Years of Fashion" is listed! Is anyone familiar with the book "Women of Fashion" by Valerie Steele? It's about women fashion designers. Christina -- First name: Christina Last name: Cary E-mail address: ccary@tiara.wpd.sgi.com _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: ARISAID@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 18:08:31 -0400 Subject: Re: The Bonnie Lass Dear Diane: Thank you for your kind letter and generous offer.. I am sorry if I breached the costume file's etiquette and put info in about the Bonnie Lass. I am new at this E-mail stuff and didn't mean to offend! Thank you for explaining the procedure...I appreciated your kindness. I will take you up on your offer of placing a description of The Bonnie Lass Company in the archives. Could you tell me how I might access the archive and read about other businesses listed. I would truely appreciate it. I will send a vida on the business soon! Thanks again! Karen, owner The Bonnie Lass (arisaid@aol.com) 1133 Dietrich Road Foristell, MO 643348 314-463-1122 ------------------------------ From: Joaquinaz@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 18:58:19 -0400 Subject: Re: historical maturnity/nursing clothing Althea, may I suggest that you investigate Amish/Mennonite clothing traditions in your research. My Mennonite friend has never had to make a special wardrobe to nurse her babies easily and discreetly--the style of dress worn traditionally by her community for the last hundred ++ years lends itself to the activity very gracefully. (I, on the other hand, did have to revamp my wardrobe, which caused me to speculate long and hard on the cultural significance of modern one-piece dresses which fasten down the back only--a female wearing one must depend on someone else to help her get dressed and cannot nurse a child). 'The Peoples Place' in the village of Intercourse, PA, is a great source of information about Amish clothing history. Please do let us all know when you have completed and published your research. I, for one, am particularly interested in the topic and look forward to reading your work. Joaquina H. Zacharias Joaquina@aol.com -or- zachar@fast.net ------------------------------ From: close@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) Subject: Re: The Bonnie Lass Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (My original message was sent via private e-mail, for those who are now confused :-), but since the reply was sent to the list, I'll do the same with my response.) ARISAID@aol.com wrote: > Thank you for your kind letter and generous offer.. I am sorry if I > breached the costume file's etiquette and put info in about the Bonnie > Lass. I am new at this E-mail stuff and didn't mean to offend! Thank you No problem! You didn't breach any etiquette; we always allow first mentions of new businesses on the list. What I was offering to do was place a permanent description of your business in the archives for *future* explanations/user requests. > I will take you up on your offer of placing a description of The Bonnie Lass > Company in the archives. Could you tell me how I might access the archive Great! I look forward to receiving it! (And any other business owners that wish to do the same -- place a description of their business and cost for a catalog, etc. in the archives -- just send me a file and I'll "make it so." :-) Here's how you access the archives; right now most of the information about businesses is lumped together in the file textiles.faq, but I'm always willing and able to put individual business descriptions in individual files, if business owners send me separate descriptions: Archives are available by using e-mail, from the archive server, majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. To get an index of available files, send a message with the words: index h-costume as the body of the message, to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. Then use the command: get h-costume filename where "filename" is the actual name of the file, to retrieve the named file. Multiple requests per message are allowed. I suggest starting with the files CONTENTS and TOPICS. Note that they are spelled in all capital letters -- the server is case sensitive. When you get an index of files back, you'll notice that some file names are spelled in all capital letters and some are a mix of lower case letters and numbers. Request them exactly as you see them listed. I.e. if you request "contents" you'll get back an error message, but if you ask for CONTENTS you'll get back that file. The CONTENTS file is a list of all the topics discussed, split up by volume numbers. The TOPICS file is an alphabetical list of all the topics discussed, and a notation that tells you in which volume they can be found. So, if you wanted the file called CONTENTS you'd send: get h-costume CONTENTS as the body of a message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com and the server would send you back that file. -- Diane Close close@lunch.engr.sgi.com I'm at lunch all day. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:15:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Cannon Subject: Re: The Bonnie Lass (fwd) On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Phyllis Gilmore wrote: > > Yes--but the tournament pitting us Scots against those sassenachs is > Tomorrow. No time to dress properly! Sorry, sweet lady... > > Where do you come up with all this stuff? (Some of it I also see on > the Rialto, but you seem to find all manner of interesting bits!) > Try one of these two lists: Historic Costume List to get on h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu thereafter, or: Dale Walters [aka in the SCA as: Walther Rotkopf] and SCA-West@ecst.csuchico.edu thereafter --and sometimes I visit other newsgroups via our 'tin' program, alt.pagan, for example...I'm eclectically interested...Grannia > Philippa the Half-Dressed > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:20:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Cannon Subject: Re: The Bonnie Lass (fwd) Hi--I was attempting to reply to a message from my friend, Philippa the Half-Dressed . My fingers moved faster than my exhausted brain. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Cannon Subject: Re: The Bonnie Lass (fwd) Argh! Time for me to get off the computer. Sorry, everyone. I'm going now.--Carol/Grannia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:35:25 PDT From: aterry@Teknowledge.COM (Allan Terry) Subject: Victorian dance classes in San Francisco Bay Area Because many costume and reenactment events include dancing, we are posting this message for Victorian dance classes. VINTAGE DANCE CLASSES The East Bay Vintage Dance Society schedule for July is: June 24: Victorian dance taught by Stan Isaacs July 1: Victorian dance taught by Stan Isaacs July 8: Racket variations in 2/4 and 3/4 time; Allan Terry and Frances Grimble July 15: Victorian dance taught by Stan Isaacs July 22: La Hungroise taught by Allan Terry and Frances Grimble July 29: Victorian dance taught by Stan Isaacs All classes will be held on Saturday mornings, 10:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. at St. Johns Presbyterian Church 2727 College Avenue, Room 203 Berkeley, California The price is $6/person. No partner required. Men and couples are certainly welcome. But if any women are worried about having a partner--for some reason this class consistently has more men than women. This is a regular series of weekly classes that will continue in upcoming months. We will probably do ragtime dance starting in August. For further information, call Clare Peterson at (510) 223-8233. ------------------------------ From: Edward Wright Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:14:16 TZ Subject: RE: Heritage gown collection When the calendar said "brides-to-be can borrow [from the collection]", it might have meant that brides-to-be can borrow ideas and designs, rather than the actual garments. Since the author confused Stony Brook, NY with Amherst, MA, I wouldn't put too much stock in this. ------------------------------ End of Volume 331 -----------------------