From: Gretchen Miller Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: H-Costume Digest, Volume 360, 8/9/95 The Historic Costume List Digest, Volume 360, August 9, 1995 Send items for the list to h-costume@andrew.cmu.edu (or reply to this message). Send subscription/deletion requests and inquiries to h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Note: The list and the digest are going automated--this is the last digest you will receive using the old format. You'll receive several digests tonight, and then I'm going to sign everyone up automagically to the new list. Enjoy! ------------------------------ Topics: Getting the chainmail info Making patterns Thanks! ISO: Commercial pattern for academic gown "Seeing Through Clothes" info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: close@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) Subject: Re: getting the chainmail info...updated. Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 07:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Re: making chain mail info > When this was discussed before on the fantasy list Diane said Thanks for passing on that info, Alan! I've moved the archives around since that time, so the "get" command looks a bit different, and there are a few more files you can add to that list. Here's the updated info: > Send e-mail to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com, the body of which is: get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941031 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941101 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941109 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941110 get f-costume fcos-94/v01.n026 get f-costume fcos-94/v01.n027 get f-costume v02.n002 get f-costume v02.n015 get f-costume v02.n016 get f-costume v02.n017 end > and majordomo will send you all these files. You can edit them down to > the chain mail specifics as you see fit!" Since the fantasy costume's lists archives are open to anyone, you don't have to be a member of the list in order to request and receive archived issues. Ditto with historic costume. -- Diane Close close@lunch.engr.sgi.com I'm at lunch all day. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 9:41:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Deb Subject: RE: pattern making Actually, it's not the scaling up which is hard (you just get one of those cardboard sewing surfaces (sold in any fabric store), which have one inch grids marked on them ... then you copy square for square on your tracing paper). The tough part is sizing it to fit any particular person. And, no, I doubt that this can be automated. (1) No particular person is an exact size, at least not for garments which are meant to fit quite tightly and (2) the patterns in books are NOT all size 8. They are whatever size the original garment is. And that surely must vary per garment! I measure the pattern pieces, after they are scaled up, and see how much waist room they have. Then I measure the model and add enough room to make it fit. Ditto for all other areas -- bustline, etc. Prefereably one uses the proper slash & spread and other flat-pattern making techniques (but I'll have to learn those some day!). Then you make up the garment in muslin and adjust AGAIN! And perhaps again. >I then >fit the muslin onto the person who will wear the finished garment. >(Obviously, this doesn't work very well for garments I'm making for my >own use.) Au contraire, I prefer to sew for myself and nobody else. I am always around to fit to, and I know how much ease I require in a garment. To each his (her) own! Deb Baddorf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:04:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Deb Subject: RE: back issues for chain mail Actually, Diane has moved some of the back issues into sub-directories just recently. The correct commands would be: Send e-mail to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com, the body of which is: get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941031 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941101 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941109 get h-costume hcos-94/hcos.941110 get f-costume v01.n026 get f-costume v01.n027 end and majordomo will send you all these files. You can edit them down to the chain mail specifics as you see fit!" Deb Baddorf ------------------------------ From: Tudorldy@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:03:10 -0400 Subject: Many Thanks Learned friends, Many thanks to each of you who have provided me with considerable food for thought for the scope of my book on beginning late period clothing. There is actually a marked consensus on some matters, which to some extent was news to me. I'm glad I asked! If anyone has any further thoughts on this, please do drop me a line. Again, my gratitude is boundless. In Service, Elizabeth Blackdane (Meagn E. Maguire -- who, at her first riding lesson (age 6) knew all the parts of the horse, the tack, and the names of the gaits and different breeds, because she had already been passionately studying the subject for the previous year(!). Is it my imagination, or are a lot of us historical clothing types also dedicated horsewomen?) TudorLdy@aol.com ------------------------------ Subject: Academic gown Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:11:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Shirley Matheis Can anyone tell me if there is a commercial pattern for an academic gown? -- ------------------------------ From: MELLYRN@ENH.NIST.GOV Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 12:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: _Seeing Through Clothes_ Some folks wanted info on Anne Hollander's _Seeing Through Clothes_. The Library of Congress lists 3 versions: the 1978 Viking Press, $25.00, probably hardback, ISBN 0670631744 ; the 1988 Penguin Books $14.95 paperback, ISBN 0140110844 ; and the 1993 Berkeley, U. of Calif. Press version, ISBN 0520082311 . In case your libraries will do an interlibrary loan with the LoC, their LC call numbers are: N8217.C63 H64 1978 N8217.C63 H64 1988 and N8217.C63 H64 1993, though this last is not yet at the LoC. FYI, telnet locis.loc.gov gets you to the Library of Congress main menu. Select item #1 first, as some of the other selections will assume you know "browse" and "select" and other commands; going to #1 assures you of a page of instructions! Happy browsing! ---mellyrn ------------------------------ End of Volume 360-----------------------