From: owner-h-costume-digest (H-Costume Digest) To: h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Subject: H-Costume Digest V4 #42 Reply-To: h-costume Sender: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Errors-To: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk H-Costume Digest Friday, February 23 1996 Volume 4, Number 42 Compilation copyright (C) 1995 Diane Barlow Close and Gretchen Miller Use in whole prohibited. Individual articles are the property of the author. Seek permission from that author before reprinting or quoting elsewhere. Important Addresses: Send submissions to: h-costume@lunch.engr.sgi.com (or reply to this message). Adds/drops/archives: majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com Real, live person: h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Topics: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice New Haven Leather New Haven leather Re: fittingly sew demo Re: fittingly sew demo Re: fittingly sew demo Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice Re: fittingly sew demo hakama, again Re: software demos Re: software demos Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice Welsh Butter? Re: fittingly sew demo FW: Sewing Class Flier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:05:01 -0800 (PST) From: Deborah Tarsiewicz - 3528981 Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Sascha wrote: > Ok, that Regency announcement was interesting, but what caught my > attention was the mention of a BBC/A&E remake of Pride and Prejudice. > Has anyone seen it, what do you think and what are the chances of laying > hands on a copy? > > Sascha > I saw a bit of the A&E P&P. IMHO the older BBC version is better. Better casting, follows the book much more closely and I thought the costuming was much nicer. A&E 's version is suppose to be released on video some time soon. The mini-ad I saw for the videos however did not specify a date or price. Hope this helps :) ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ^*^"There is a pleasure in madness^*^Deb in Riverside ^*^ ^*^ which only madmen know" ^*^dtarsiew@nunic.nu.edu^*^ ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:32:59 -0500 From: Elizabeth Lear Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice For more info on P&P and the tape, you might want to check out their web site on http://www.aetv.com ...eliz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:21:28 -0500 From: ejp@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice Sascha writes: > BBC/A&E remake of Pride and Prejudice. Has anyone seen it, what do > you think and what are the chances of laying hands on a copy? It's available on videocassette from A&E -- try the 1-800 directory listings. You pay around a hundred bucks for 6 ?45?-minute-long tapes. Mom recorded it for me -- the commercials were sheer hell, so perhaps I'd hate the tapes less. The costumes were consistently rather good. BUT, if you're a Jane Austen fan, and particularly a P&P fan, < rant on > I don't recall Mr. Darcy getting naked anywhere in the book. NOR did Lydia show her tits to Mr. Collins, NOR did Darcy interrupt Wickham in the middle of Wickham having sex, NOR was there a wet t-shirt scene. I kept waiting for the rocket-powered-motorcycle chase scene finale. Harrumph! < rant off > If you want to get a well-costumed AND faithful P&P, get the BBC one sold by the Signals catalog (definitely in the 1-800 directory) with Elizabeth Garvie and David Rintoul. Around 30 or 40 bucks for two ?2.5? hour tapes, of blissfully stellar quality all around. cheers, ejp - -------- Elizabeth Poole Yorktown Heights, NY ejp@watson.ibm.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:30:12 PST From: ches@tristero.io.com Subject: New Haven Leather Does anyone have an address of phone number for this company? Ciao @}\ Ches @}----`--,-- http://www.io.com/~ches/ @}/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:29:16 -0600 (CST) From: "SHERYL J. NANCE" Subject: New Haven leather New Haven Leather 254 State St. New Haven, CT 06510 (203) 865-4237 HTH! Sheryl J. Nance ...one of the secret masters of Kansas City MO Public Library the world: a librarian. They p_sheryl@kcpl.lib.mo.us control information. Don't ever p**s one off. - Spider Robinson, _The Callahan Touch_ (Opinions expressed in this message do not reflect the viewpoint of the Kansas City MO Public Library.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:50:23 -0500 From: NeaDods@aol.com Subject: Re: fittingly sew demo >And, we've had reports that one CANNOT buy it any longer. >The phone numbers have been called, and the company says >that it is closed. ???? When were these calls made? I bought my copy of the program in mid-January of this year, and they told me to be sure to send in my registration card to get the upgrade due by March. Nea neadods@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:11:59 -0800 (PST) From: close (Diane Barlow Close) Subject: Re: fittingly sew demo NeaDods@aol.com wrote: > >The phone numbers have been called, and the company says > >that it is closed. > > ???? When were these calls made? I bought my copy of the program in > mid-January of this year, and they told me to be sure to send in my > registration card to get the upgrade due by March. The calls were made this week. The message says something like: Bartley Software has been dissolved and is no longer in business. ... "Fittingly Sew" owners who wish to received customer support for their products, please write to the address in your owners manual. ... We are no longer selling new copies of this software. That's the gist of it anyway. It sure surprised me! They had the best program on the market. I hope that others like "Patternmaker" will continue to improve and hang around. The market does seem better for commercial applications of the software (and the prices of the advanced programs indicate that too -- $1200+ in one case!). I see no reason, given the advances in computer hardware, why grading, digitizing, etc. can't evenually make it into the home market at a reasonable price. Whether any company figures it's worth the bother is another question. Considering that Bartely Software has gone under, I will be removing their demos (all Fittingly Sew demos) from my site as of Monday. - -- Diane Close I'm at lunch all day. :-) If a Canadian Had Said It First (The Globe & Mail): "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance plus GST." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:12:10 -0600 (CST) From: Deb Subject: Re: fittingly sew demo #>And, we've had reports that one CANNOT buy it any longer. #>The phone numbers have been called, and the company says #>that it is closed. # #???? When were these calls made? I bought my copy of the program in #mid-January of this year, and they told me to be sure to send in my #registration card to get the upgrade due by March. Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but one or two members on THIS list phoned within the week of 2/18/96 (this week) and the initial reports were the week before that. The calls this week were made explicitly to check the alleged closure, and they confirmed that they heard "CLOSED". Deb Baddorf baddorf@fnal.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:46:10 GMT From: dickie@bozzie.demon.co.uk (Paul C. Dickie) Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice In message > Sascha (sbates@raider.grcc.cc.mi.us) writes: > Ok, that Regency announcement was interesting, but what caught my > attention was the mention of a BBC/A&E remake of Pride and Prejudice. > Has anyone seen it, Several times... > what do you think I think that it's quite enchanting, though I do note that Andrew Davis took a very few liberties with the text -- but so will anyone adapting a novel for broadcast or screen. As for the costumes, they looked reasonably authentic on screen, but when examined more closely (as I was able to do, when some of the costumes were on display at Lyme Hall, Cheshire, which was used for the exterior views of "Pemberley") certain oddities became apparent. For example, the curry-colored spencer (waist-length jacket) worn by Lizzie in several of the scenes, was made with side-bodies rather than darts; another example was Darcy's overcoat, worn only in the scene where he successfully proposes to Lizzie, wasn't even bound at the edges but was merely (machine!) edge-stitched, with the cut edges being left raw so that they were starting to fray -- I surmised that, as it was worn for only one scene and then mostly in medium to long shot, it wasn't considered worthwhile to finish the cloth any better. On the matter of the sidebodies, I thought that sidebodies weren't commonly used until some twenty or thirty years after the period in which Pride and Prejudice was set, whilst I'd have expected that a gentleman like Darcy would have required a better finish than was evident on that overcoat. But these are, I'm sure, minor matters and the overall look was most satisfactory, if one also overlooks the fact that most of the players would have been somewhat shorter in that period. > and what are the chances of laying hands on a copy? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I wasn't aware that the production was terminally ill! o-) Seriously, though, a double video cassette of the production is available from BBC Enterprises, but the UK uses the PAL standard for video whilst America uses the NTSC ("Never Twice the Same Color") standard; *some*, nore modern, video recorders can play tapes of both standards, but it would be as well to check the machine or find out if the tape is available in NTSC or SECAM standards. < Paul > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:05:00 -0500 From: deirdre@sover.net (Deirdre) Subject: Re: fittingly sew demo Just so you folks know; I have written to these guys to see if they would consider selling the program's rights (including source code). If so, it would help me reach one of my own goals (that of doing design software suitable for the charting attachments of knitting machines). I don't expect much, but if it's possible, I'd like to keep it resurrected. _Deirdre http://www.sover.net/~deirdre The net can't be controlled, but they can sure mess it up trying. It will be like hemp: the yarn and the paper are gone, but the nasty uses linger on. - -- Joy Beeson (jbeeson@globalone.net) from a post to the knit list on 2/17/96 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:23:57 -0800 From: "Carole Newson-Smith" Subject: hakama, again 2/22/96 5:25 PM hakama, again Susan, You might try Mistress Jania of Call Duck Manor (in Palo Alto). She has made and altered a lot of Japanese clothes, both for men and women. If you would like her phone number, I will send it to you privately. Alternatively, you may e-mail her at theducks@best.com Carole (SCA Cordelia) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:33:58 -0800 From: LMetz Subject: Re: software demos I recently visited a website that had information about Fittingly Sew and it too said the company has closed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: Elsa Wachs Subject: Re: software demos So many of you are interested in needlework, scanning knitting patterns and fitting etc.. re: computeryou might be interested in a wonderful book The Needlecrafter's Computer Companion Judy Heim No Starch Press at 415/334-7200; 1903 Jameston Lane, Daly City, CA 94014-3466. - -1-800-420-7240 There is a detailed description of this book on her homepage http://www.execpc. com/~judyheim/needle.html I hope it will be of value--It is to me. Elsa On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, LMetz wrote: > I recently visited a website that had information about Fittingly Sew > and it too said the company has closed. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:21:40 -0600 (CST) From: Teresa Shannon Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice > > Seriously, though, a double video cassette of the production is available from > BBC Enterprises, but the UK uses the PAL standard for video whilst America uses > the NTSC ("Never Twice the Same Color") standard; *some*, nore modern, video > recorders can play tapes of both standards, but it would be as well to check > the machine or find out if the tape is available in NTSC or SECAM standards. > > < Paul > > > In the BBC video catalogue I received, products are in NTSC designed for an American market, so I would imagine just asking for NTSC would be fine when ordering. Teresa ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 1996 09:45:28 -0800 From: "Carole Newson-Smith" Subject: Welsh Butter? 2/23/96 9:44 AM Welsh Butter? Greetings. I have been looking through a British book entitled _Cattern Cakes and Lace_ by Julia Jones and Barbara Deer, and am interested in trying a recipe for Bara Brith (Speckled Bread). However, it calls for Welsh butter. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this is? Carole (SCA: Cordelia) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:30:48 -0600 (CST) From: Robin Findlay Subject: Re: fittingly sew demo Icalled a few days ago and the recording said the company was out of buisness I'd buy a copy of the program if I knew where to get it. I saw it demonstrated at actf in st. louis and was impressed. Best Wishes Robin ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Walter Robin Findlay Phone: 816-271-4452 Associate Professor of Theatre E-mail:findlay@griffon.mwsc.edu Missouri Western State College Fax: 816-232-0978 4525 Downs Drive Voice Mail: 816-387-3117 St. Joseph, Mo. 64507 is that all there is........ peggy lee - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 NeaDods@aol.com wrote: > >And, we've had reports that one CANNOT buy it any longer. > >The phone numbers have been called, and the company says > >that it is closed. > > ???? When were these calls made? I bought my copy of the program in > mid-January of this year, and they told me to be sure to send in my > registration card to get the upgrade due by March. > > Nea > neadods@aol.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 17:07:51 PST From: ches@tristero.io.com Subject: FW: Sewing Class Flier I hope you can post this: On Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:53:04 -0600 James Crouchet wrote: >I got a flier in the mail for a sewing class to be held in various >places in Texas. It is a 4 hour class for 10 bucks a head and you >get a free instructional sewing video and some other goodies as well. > >They cover fitting, pattern making, estimating fabric needs, copying >garments and pattern making. This sounded like just what some of us >need. > >So does anyone know anything about these folks? Their names are given >as Bruce Oleyar and Judy Spencer. Unless someone knows something >negative I would guess that 10 bucks is not too much to risk. > >I would like to go to one of the classes but looking at my calender >I see that the Austin classes are the weekend just before Gulf Wars >and I would really like to get to a class before that as I expect to >spend that weekend sewing & packing anyway. Maybe I will slip up to >Dallas for one of the classes there. > >Anyway, if you are interested this is a list of where and when: > >City Hotel Date Time >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Dallas Ramada Feb 29 10am-2pm > 1055 Regal Row & Hwy 183 6pm-10pm > > Dallas Parkway Hilton Mar 2 10am-2pm > 4801 LBJ FWY (Exit22-b) Mar 3 1pm-5pm > Mar 9 10am-2pm > Mar 10 1pm-5pm > > Holiday Inn North Park Mar 12 10am-2pm > 10650 N. Central Expy 6pm-10pm > exit 26 > >Arlington Marriott Mar 2 10am-2pm > 1500 Covention Center Dr. Mar 3 1pm-5pm > I-30 Six Flags exit > >Tyler Howard Johnson Tower Mar 4 10am-2pm > 2843 W.N. W Loop 323 & Hwy 69 6pm-10pm > >Longview Longview Inn Mar 5 10am-2pm > 605 Access Rd. I-20 exit 595 6pm-10pm > >Texarkana Best Western Northgate Mar 6 10am-2pm > 400 W. 53rd St I-30 exit 223-B 6pm-10pm > >Sherman Best Western Grayson House Mar 7 10am-2pm > 2105 Texoma Pkwy US 75 exit 61 6pm-10pm > >Wichita Days Inn Mar 9 10am-2pm > Falls 1211 Central Frwy 287 Mar 10 1pm-5pm > Exit Maurine St. > >Richardson Holiday Inn Mar 11 10am-2pm > 1655 N central Expy 6pm-10pm > Exit Meadow Rd. > >Ft. Worth Green Oaks Inn Mar 13 10am-2pm > 6901 West Frwy I-30 & Hwy 183 6pm-10pm > >Waco Holiday Inn Mar 4 6pm-10pm > 1001 Lake Brazos Dr Mar 5 10am-2pm > I-35 exit 335-C > >Temple La Quinta Mar 6 6pm-10pm > 1604 W Barton Ave. Mar 7 10am-2pm > at 31st > >Austin Holiday Inn Airport Mar 9 10am-2pm > 6911 N I-35 > > Wyndham Hotel Mar 10 1pm-5pm > 4140 Governor's Row > (I-35 & Ben White) > >After which I suppose they go into a mental institution for six >months to recover from travel fatigue. ;-) > >They give a phone number of (813) 992-8222 (which is a Florida area >code) and call themselves The European School of Design. > >Savian > Ciao @}\ Ches @}----`--,-- http://www.io.com/~ches/ @}/ ------------------------------ End of H-Costume Digest V4 #42 ****************************** A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, send the command lines: unsubscribe h-costume-digest subscribe h-costume end in the body of a message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. 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