From: owner-h-costume-digest (H-Costume Digest) To: h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Subject: H-Costume Digest V4 #86 Reply-To: h-costume Sender: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Errors-To: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk H-Costume Digest Wednesday, April 3 1996 Volume 4, Number 86 Compilation copyright (C) 1996 Diane Barlow Close and Gretchen Miller Use in whole prohibited. Individual articles are the property of the author. Seek permission from that author before reprinting or quoting elsewhere. Important Addresses: Send submissions to: h-costume@lunch.engr.sgi.com (or reply to this message). Adds/drops/archives: majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com Real, live person: h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Topics: Writer's Guidelines and more! 8-) 1931 British Colour Cards Request to be dropped from list Female Tudor costumes - costume patterns FWD>RE> Bumrolls (formarly Re: existence of textile mailing list? [none] Re: Hat Blanks NEW COMPUTER!!! need help with archives Re: Waist sizes Some questions on the History Of Art Regency costume and needlework Looking for Laura's Email Address Re: Waist sizes VA Servant clothing study now complete! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:39:11 -0800 From: polsons@sirius.com (The Polsons) Subject: Writer's Guidelines and more! 8-) Hello again. I'm taking the chance of annoying some people by posting this, but I've received *TONS* of requests for guidelines (I'm impressed! 8-) ), and many people also wanted info on the magazine itself, as well as wondering if I wanted other living history articles (YES!). So, here's an abbreviated version of our guidelines to save bandwidth. Thanks for your patience, and I hope this is of help to all you who answered my original post. 8-))) (I hope this isn't too long!!!) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WRITER'S GUIDELINES FOR _RECREATING HISTORY_ Recreating History is designed to inspire living history enthusiasts of all time periods, and those thinking about getting started, by providing articles, information, and resources to help them meet their goals of complete historical accuracy. Our primary focus is the various arts and skills related to costuming and camp outfitting, but is by no means limited to this scope. Send all submissions to: Editor, Recreating History P. O. Box 4277 Santa Clara, CA 95056 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GENERAL REQUIREMENTS * All articles must be credible and authoritatively written. References must be included with every manuscript, as well as further reading suggestions. * Clear, concise instructions and/or information are essential to our audience. Make sure your article is scholarly, yet written in a "user-friendly" manner. * Queries are preferred to unsolicited manuscripts. Include copies of previous works, if possible. Materials will be returned if a SASE is included. Allow several weeks for a reply. * Manuscripts should be submitted in a typed format with proper identification. Remember to include a short bio about yourself. Author bylines given. Computer users may include a copy on a 3 1/4" disk along with the hard copy. Articles accompanied by quality photos or illustrations are preferred. E-mail queries accepted. * Current payment rate is based on a pre-determined scale primarily related to quality and level of expertise. Payment is 50% on acceptance, and the remaining 50% on publication unless otherwise arranged. * Recreating History owns all rights to manuscripts as published, while the author retains rights to their original manuscript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT WE DON'T USE Recreating History focuses only on subjects that directly relate to the living history en-thusiast. We don't use poetry, except sometimes of the period or as music, and we don't use articles on religion, politics, or historical trivia. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DEPARTMENTS Creative Costuming - Feature-length articles (1500-2000 words) on how to make garb. Stresses tips and techniques for creating period clothing. Provender- Feature-length articles on period foods, covering the historical context of the food and how to prepare it. Must include tested recipes. Include sources for unusual ingredients. Calendar of Events- An important department, but we don't pay or charge for listings. We always appreciate event listings of all kinds (and so do our readers). Think of it as free advertising. Silhouette- A short feature (1000 words) profiling an artisan or organization who has achieved excellence. Please include photographs. Weekend Workshop- A short feature describing a project that reenactors can make in a few hours or over a weekend. This often introduces the reader to a new craft or technique. Quality photos or line drawings are requested. Around the Campfire- Short (500-800 words) period or "periodesque" story or folktale. 1 year's subscription per item ($16.95 value). History Today- Short items (100-300 words) of timely interest to historical reenactors. Please include sources. Reviews- Short reviews (50-100 words) of books, videos, and products. $10 per review. Trinkets- Tested period recipes, short historic tidbits useful to reenactors, anecdotes, living history-related trivia, etc. $5 each. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PHOTOGRAPHERS AND ILLUSTRATORS Clear photos are always welcome, as are black line illustrations. Payment is upon publication and determined on an individual basis according to professional quality. Freelance assignments available-send samples of your previous work for consideration. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBSCRIPTION AND SAMPLE COPY INFO Subscriptions are $16.95 per year (6 issues), or $29.95 for two years. Sample issues may be obtained for $3.95 + $1.00 for postage. Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery. Foreign subscriptions please add $6.00 per year, US funds only, please. Send check or money order to the above address. Also state time period of interest so we can select the sample issue most appropriate for you. Thanks for your interest in Recreating History! +---------------------------End Message-------------------------------+ ****************************************************************** Willow Polson polsons@sirius.com Recreating History magazine "The Complete Resource for Living History Enthusiasts of All Eras" ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:12:06 -0700 (MST) From: cwood@primenet.com Subject: 1931 British Colour Cards Hi-ho! Does anyone know what the 1931 British colour cards were exactly and any ideas where I might be able to get copies? Thanks. Ysabeau ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:51:57 -0500 From: GaelenF@aol.com Subject: Request to be dropped from list This message is for the manager of the historic costume list...I'd like to be removed from the list, please. The people on the list are incredibly helpful but I'm getting more messages than I can handle. Thank you for your time. Yours truly, Gaelen F ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:03:31 -0800 From: 101641.1113@compuserve.com Subject: Female Tudor costumes - costume patterns I would be grateful for any information on how I can get my hands on a sewing pattern for junior/adult female tudor costumes. Thanks in anticipation. Jackie Smith ------------------------------ Date: 1 Apr 1996 12:05:22 -0800 From: "Karen Lovejoy" Subject: FWD>RE> Bumrolls (formarly Mail*Link( SMTP FWD>RE> Bumrolls (formarly corsets) of course, then there are those of us who carry our own bumrolls around wherever we go :-) - -------------------------------------- Date: 3/28/96 15:43 From: HMHousman@aol.com Bumrolls are an essential part of the Elizabethan sillhouette. They are the padded roll which goes around the waist, above the hoops, and creates a "shelf." They started out rather small and by late reign they were huge!! By that time women used multiple rolls which got increasingly bigger. This got a bit cumbersome and the French (I believe) came out with the drum-barrel to create a "table" look. Hope it helps.... Heather Housman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 16:28:06 -0500 From: Carol Bier Subject: Re: existence of textile mailing list? The Textile Museum Shop offers a book list. You may either request it directly (send request to TEXTILEMUS@AOL.COM), or Join The Textile Museum, then you get all the mailings from the museum on historic textiles of the non-Western world (and then some). Carol Bier Curator, Eastern Hemisphere Collections The Textile Museum 2320 S Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:19:35 -0700 (MST) From: Sofia Subject: [none] SET DIGEST ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:20:04 -0500 From: FASHONLINE@aol.com Subject: Re: Hat Blanks I am a hatter and know "hat blanks" as hat "bodies" or, if mushroom shaped and unblocked, "hoods". If a brim has been formed but the body is still unblocked, we refer to it as a "cappeline". Where to get them? Try Mannie's Millinery in NYC. Stefan Schinzinger, San Francisco Hat Company ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:24:55 -0800 (PST) From: Jo Jann Subject: NEW COMPUTER!!! I'm getting my nice new pentium system monday and will be ready to SURF THE WEB! So please send me all your favorite costume site addresses, or just your own personal if you wish :> I would really like SCA & pre1700's And of course BRAVEHEART sites (think I saw one a while back) Thank you :> Please respond to silky@teleport.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:35:44 -0800 From: ke6isf@outlander.ni.net (Dennis Allen Carr) Subject: need help with archives RBarber854@aol.com writes: > I am having trouble accessing archive files. I sent a question to "request" > but recieved no answer. Can someone help me? Mmmm... sure,. why not? =) First thing you want to do is send the word "help" in either the subject or body of a mail message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com, which will give you much better help than anyone in here (except for Diane Close) can give you. Oh, yeah - the reason you didn't get a response from Diane is because she's on vacation. =/ - --- Dennis Allen Carr KE6ISF outlander!ke6isf@ccss.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:07:48 GMT From: "Paul C. Dickie" Subject: Re: Waist sizes In message <199603281747.KAA26891@nz1.netzone.com> Sharon Bolton writes: > > >Some ethnic groups tend to be heavier built and the extra poundage sure can > >keep out the cold. These gowns gave me encouragement since I haven't had > >an 18" waist since childhood. > > > An 18" waist? I'd be happy if I had an 18" THIGH! > Perhaps that's an evolutionary step towards getting an 18" waist? o-) Apart from Victorian gents being able to encircle a girl's waist with their outstretched hands, another obvious advantage (?!!) of the smaller waist sizes was that their ladyfolk didn't -- couldn't -- eat so much... < Paul > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:38:10 +-400 From: George Maevski Subject: Some questions on the History Of Art I am currently writing a paper on 2 topics I would greatly appreciate if you could send me any sort of clue on = where to find the materials (or if you could possibly discuss the = matters with me). 1. Development of typology of a Roman Villa of the 16th century 2. Costume accessories (in general) and costume accessories in Russian = portrait of the 1st third of the 19th century Thank you All for your attention, George ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:09:37 -0800 From: sexton@mail.wsu.edu (Althea Sexton) Subject: Regency costume and needlework I'm working on a project where I recreate several Regency wedding dresses and the accessories that go with them. Does anyone know of good sources for what kind of handiwork was popular then? I have access to Arnold, but that is only good for the pattern of the dresses. I'd like more info on the needle crafts prevalent then, how did they trim the clothing, wedding lore and etiquette. Thanks in advance Althea L. Sexton (aka) Althea L. Sexton - ALTHEA_SEXTON@WSU.EDU http://www.physplt.wsu.edu/info.html (WordSmith's WebBook) http://www.physplt.wsu.edu/craft.html (Craftivity) Earth First! We'll log the other planets later. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:49:04 -0500 From: Ladnier@aol.com Subject: Looking for Laura's Email Address I am sorry to send this message this way: Laura in Dayton (Elizabeth I fan), I lost your Email and fax number. Send it to me again direct. Sorry, again to tie up the system. $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ Pennies from Heaven, where it’s always reigning money Or so my kids think so Penny E. Ladnier, Virginia Commonwealth University s0peladn@cabell.vcu.edu $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:20:01 +0000 From: "Keith & Heather Schenk" Subject: Re: Waist sizes Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:07:48 GMT From: "Paul C. Dickie" To: h-costume@lunch.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Waist sizes In message <199603281747.KAA26891@nz1.netzone.com> Sharon Bolton writes: > > >Some ethnic groups tend to be heavier built and the extra poundage sure can > >keep out the cold. These gowns gave me encouragement since I haven't had > >an 18" waist since childhood. > > > An 18" waist? I'd be happy if I had an 18" THIGH! > Perhaps that's an evolutionary step towards getting an 18" waist? o-) Apart from Victorian gents being able to encircle a girl's waist with their outstretched hands, another obvious advantage (?!!) of the smaller waist sizes was that their ladyfolk didn't -- couldn't -- eat so much... < Paul > This might be related... A friend of mine, has of late, become interested in late 1800's history. She says that during that time it was considered un-lady-like to eat a lot in public. I guess squishing all of your 'inards' into some other dimension helped to keep your appetite in check. :) Heather kschenk@fast.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:24:08 -0600 (CST) From: BPH3213@ACS.TAMU.EDU Subject: VA Servant clothing study now complete! Hi all, As those of you who have been on the list awhile may recall, I have been working on a PhD dissertation on runaway indentured servant clothing in Virginia (Revolutionary War period). Well, I'm pleased to say it is done. As I promised a long time back, I want to make this available to those on the list who have an interest in the subject. Here's the basics of what it is: Title: Had on and Took With Him: Runaway Indentured Servant Clothing in Virginia, 1774-1778. about 340 pages, 92 figures. Chapters include background on servants, clothing in the 18th century in Europe (Britain) and America, and social cotexts for servant clothing. Following this are chapters on specific garmets (coats, waistcoats, etc). All of these chapters are integrated with info from the runaway servant descriptions, and contemporary diaries, etc. to place clothes in everyday settings. The final chapter is mostly line drawings, then numerous appendices. The database was 201 runaway servant descriptions, all males, mostly of European background (one Asiatic Indian, possibly a few more mixed backrgouds) There is a 70+- page glossary on textiles mentioned in the ads (at 9 point font single spaced, so it's actually longer that it sounds even). The raw clothing data is also compiled in appendices for all 201 servants. There are about 50 reconstruction drawings of selected servants clothes. (No people just clothes on an invisible body). Info used for this varied, including trips to Virginia to look over artifact collections and original garments, as well as prints, paintings, patterns, etc. (Even so, they are still conjectural don't forget!) Anyway, the cost for duplication including tax is $18.00, and I've found Prioroty mail to be most efficent at $5, for a total of $23. (Believe it or not, parcel post would only save 5 to 50 cents for most I've sent out). All I ask is reimbursement for these costs. While there are surely many weaknesses that will be apparent to those of you who have been at this for years, I hope it will be insightful and useful. I'm doing this before I begin sending sections in for publication (which if anyone has suggestions for where to submit, let me know). After parts get published, I may have to turn over some of the copyright rights. This is my way of saying thanks to those who gave me tips on where to find resources, or jabbed me for more documentation. (especially during the cotton debates awhile back, while I was doing the glossary section!). Now, for those of you wondering who is this person and what's he up to, I'm an historical archaeologist who has specialized in material culture, primarily 17th-18th centuries. This work took me to the fringe of archaeological work. It doesn't read like a typical dissertation (I hope!). One of my things in archaeology is to make the info we deal with accesible to the public, and interesting, so I tried to present it that way. If you're interested, drop me a note at bph3213@acs.tamu.edu before May 15 and we can make arrangements. I'm rarely at the Department now, so don't write there unless you're very patient. Sorry to write such a long note, but the brain is just thawing out of a two-plus years dissertation writing mode... Bryan Howard Department of Anthropology Texas A&M University bph3213@acs.tamu.edu p.s. If you want a copy, contact me first, so I can take the master in for duplication beforehand, and then I'll send you my home address.- Bryan ------------------------------ End of H-Costume Digest V4 #86 ****************************** A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, send the command lines: unsubscribe h-costume-digest subscribe h-costume end in the body of a message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. Thanks and enjoy the list!