From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 1 04:20:51 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m818Knln017826 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 04:20:50 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m818KiXI021942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 04:20:48 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m818K5vO083406 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:20:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m818K0rW053571; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:20:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from derby.ac.uk (uodgw1.derby.ac.uk [193.60.149.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m818JuKt053502 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:19:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from k.m.bunting@derby.ac.uk) Received: from ([193.60.149.5]) by uodgw1.derby.ac.uk with ESMTP id 5202112.116049080; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:19:41 0100 Received: from dmz-edg01.University.ds.derby.ac.uk (dmz-edg01.derby.ac.uk [193.60.149.223]) by mail1.derby.ac.uk (8.11.7p2+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id m818Jdh05509.; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:19:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from MKT-HUB01.university.ds.derby.ac.uk (195.194.178.251) by dmz-edg01.University.ds.derby.ac.uk (193.60.149.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.291.1; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:15:54 +0100 Received: from MKT-MBX01.university.ds.derby.ac.uk ([10.31.101.38]) by MKT-HUB01.university.ds.derby.ac.uk ([10.31.101.41]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:19:37 +0100 From: Kate M Bunting To: "h-costume@indra.com" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:19:36 +0100 Thread-Topic: [h-cost] Woman's waistcoat 17th cent. 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Thanks, Kate Bunting Librarian & 17th century reenactor. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 1 14:08:56 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m81I8tr4024133 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m81I8nJP001497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:53 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m81I8L5L032105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:08:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81I8IJI078565; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:08:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from thunderer.concentric.com (thunderer.concentric.com [207.155.252.171]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81I8ExE078521 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:08:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jtknits@jtknits.cts.com) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id 4989AACB3; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from julie (66-105-235-4.sd-02.cvx.algx.net [66.105.235.4]) (Authenticated sender: jtknits@jtknits.cts.com) by thunderer.concentric.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id 4989AACB3 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Julie Tamura" To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:08:12 -0700 Message-ID: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckMXM6hPmD6kpZGT4SXuXCepOesfAAACayA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC--Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 42fdf88a-4384-45ec-bf39-39c47a846471 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48BC2FB1.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:08:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Greetings I have always heard that tatting didn't come into use before the 1700s and so haven't been doing it for Tudor/Elizabethan. Yesterday I was told by a lady that needle tatting can be documented to quite early and she said it's mentioned several times in the Canterbury Tales. She also mentioned that it's related to making fishing nets. I'm wondering if any of you knowledgeable folks out there can help me. I'm having a problem with her data for a couple of reasons. 1) If tatting shows up in the Canterbury Tales, I know word meanings change over hundreds of years. Do we know that tatting then is what we call tatting? 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and picots of tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making proof of tatting. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Julie _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 1 15:05:00 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m81J507r026833 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:05:00 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m81J4s6j029057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:04:57 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m81J4TqT036646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:04:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81J4T9d020666; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:04:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81J4Sf7020650 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:04:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from msberard@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so1730647rvb.11 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=igGGbMEfE+gefDOIlpHcJnVSc+S1T8XdmZCl++NK5kA=; b=T2BLL4tV79leEUUrreFc/nNjC3eeWY2BtvR6/okEAVuWQnU7WljPB8gq7tkSX6foHs S+OKAtj+uua/3583k9G2aEIUUexjF4mz1c1/Kcz1KgEpvuj6yNrWN9iJ/ZOcbZ80c5Wo VfMawPA1EQHfRkWZhaoDb/4WhdKP6uJmR/KZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ju6wXSG2TwR/+EOrNX9JE8uvby0RzOF7OGqC79DFvSf+FH5DYKKXkHFh+9R25kuPyk J0hg49w/KY7yaXCiUJ5lH9loY6KybC6XCZxm3MasSzz7SmuR1RWsuhZ2sDfBpbVXrNYP xjbdt5+2yEaBp1dOgXTSVtxp5Av9a4bRCwUbg= Received: by 10.140.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr3639136rve.134.1220295868290; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.252.15 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:04:28 -0500 From: "Onaree Berard" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> X-DCC--Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1b656292-d415-4daa-bde4-bdd1a0415e6f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48BC3CD6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On 9/1/08, Julie Tamura wrote: > Greetings > > I have always heard that tatting didn't come into use before the 1700s and > so haven't been doing it for Tudor/Elizabethan. Yesterday I was told by a > lady that needle tatting can be documented to quite early and she said it's > mentioned several times in the Canterbury Tales. She also mentioned that > it's related to making fishing nets. > > I'm wondering if any of you knowledgeable folks out there can help me. I'm > having a problem with her data for a couple of reasons. > 1) If tatting shows up in the Canterbury Tales, I know word meanings change > over hundreds of years. Do we know that tatting then is what we call > tatting? > 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and picots of > tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making proof of > tatting. > > Any help would be appreciated. > TIA > Julie > I think that you are correct in your reasoning. The only "proof" of tatting being earlier is the knotting shuttles that were used since they have the same basic shape (but you would need huge hands to use them for tatting as they are so large). Personally I would ask for specifics. Where in the Canterbury Tales is it mentioned? How is it related to making fishing nets? I've found that usually they can't give any real answer so I just ignore them. But sometimes they have good info and learn something new, but this is sadly rare. Onaree -- Proud List Mom of Irish_Crochet_Lovers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irish_Crochet_Lovers/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 1 15:27:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m81JReEt028082 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:27:40 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m81JRY3X015314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:27:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m81JRDrG037699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:27:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81JRBiQ036140; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:27:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m81JR8m7036058 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:27:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from heather.jones@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rn6Ge7GTceYKC2nxFG4DFpDcptRZlHQ4mVp0BjFFC9+XSjrdRLOHB/38ZNHetxWE; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.167.204.110] (helo=[10.0.1.199]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KaF3G-0006Hm-KI for h-costume@indra.com; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:27:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> References: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> Message-Id: <493785BB-AA98-4426-8A11-4FD4AF721D75@earthlink.net> From: Heather Rose Jones Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:27:03 -0700 To: Historical Costume X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: c920284270743d76aa459df8244ac33774bf435c0eb9d47825b4b7d5acaa617ac89c6afe379404339526566851e30ae4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.167.204.110 X-DCC--Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 8bab0706-1eec-4c25-9682-3f40e22b5045 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48BC4226.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:27:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Julie Tamura wrote: > Greetings > > I have always heard that tatting didn't come into use before the > 1700s and > so haven't been doing it for Tudor/Elizabethan. Yesterday I was > told by a > lady that needle tatting can be documented to quite early and she > said it's > mentioned several times in the Canterbury Tales. She also > mentioned that > it's related to making fishing nets. > > I'm wondering if any of you knowledgeable folks out there can help > me. I'm > having a problem with her data for a couple of reasons. > 1) If tatting shows up in the Canterbury Tales, I know word > meanings change > over hundreds of years. Do we know that tatting then is what we call > tatting? > 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and > picots of > tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making > proof of > tatting. Particularly given the reference to fishing nets, it sounds like this is coming from the point of view of "any technique that bears a tangential technical resemblance to Technique X _is_ Technique X and therefore is support for all forms of Technique X being historically appropriate for any time period when those other techniques can be found." It's a fairly common line of reasoning found when the goal is to demonstrate the great antiquity of Technique X -- either because being older is somehow felt to make the technique "better" in some indefinable way, or because the person doing the reasoning is fond of doing Technique X, fond of Time Period Y, and wants to feel good about doing Technique X in the context of Time Period Y. If "tatting" is defined as "building a thread structure by means of half-hitches formed around a ground thread" then that definition includes certain types of needle lace (in addition to including shuttle-based tatting, although it then excludes the many types of netting that don't use half-hitches). If "tatting" is defined as "building a thread structure by knotting a thread carried on a bobbin around existing threads in the work" then that definition includes most types of netting (although it then excludes needle-lace). On the other hand, the Canterbury Tales reference may be a matter of a too-eager reading of a more careful statement. Doing a Google search on "Canterbury Tales" + "tatting" turns up the following quote from Rebecca Jones' (no relation) "Tatting -- Origins and History": "Tatting is believed to have evolved from knotting, which in various forms is a very ancient type of decoration for clothing. The Egyptians used knotting as decoration on ceremonial dress and a mummy was found with a skirt overlay of knotted rings which look very much like tatting. The early Chinese also used knotting and couched their knotted designs into their embroideries. These eventually found their way to Europe and knotting was popular for the decoration of furnishings and embroideries in Medieval times - Chaucer even mentions it in his Canterbury Tales (1387)." A careful reading of this statement shows that it only says that "knotting" was mentioned in the Canterbury Tales -- not that anything that might properly be named "tatting" was. So while Jones may well be guilty of tossing in mention of a lot of irrelevant techniques in an attempt to give tatting an air of great antiquity, she doesn't appear to be guilty of making specific unsubstantiated claims about tatting itself. (You might want to ask your correspondent if she can give you the specific passages in Chaucer that mention tatting -- many people repeat these sorts of claims at multiple generations, like a game of "telephone", without ever questioning the precise nature and meaning of the original statements.) My take on this sort of thing is that if one wants to identify the historic context for a particular technique -- which in the case of shuttle-based tatting is not simply a fabric built of half-hitches using a shuttle, but the specific use of a sliding loop where the shuttle thread is knotted around the loop then straightened to transfer the half-hitch to the sliding loop itself -- then one needs to find clear examples of _that_ technique, not general examples of possibly related or possibly ancestral techniques. But then, I have Opinions on this sort of topic. 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X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 88a93379-06c6-4bd6-8710-ba07538558a2 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48BC4746.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:49:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Julie Tamura wrote: > 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and picots of > tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making proof of > tatting. I also think they're related, but they are distinctly different crafts. Netting and tatting can be done with the same basic knot (half hitches), but netting is usually done with the slightly different sheet bend knot instead. I think this prevents the knot from sliding on the foundation thread that you're tying on to, which is good for netting but bad for tatting. The tools used are essentially interchangeable (although a modern tatting shuttle is large enough that it puts a limit on how fine a net you can make). However I can't think of any period examples where netting is worked to produce the kind of lace patterns that you'd find in tatting. Although the nets can be very fine (not just fishing nets, e.g. silk hairnets - examples in MoL Textile and Clothing book), they do seem to be just plain diamond nets with some shaping. The other approach is from needle lace, which produces designs that (to me at least) look similar to tatting, especially punto in aria. However my understanding is that while they look similar, they have a different underlying structure, and are made differently. Having not actually learned lace-making yet, though, I don't want to make too strong a statement. Tatting might not be a bad substitute, though, for someone who was already proficient in it and not eager to learn another technique. - Catrijn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 1 20:16:00 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m820G0Kk008248 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:16:00 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m820FrbI002207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:15:57 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m820FZsv065530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:15:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m820FXxC042319; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:15:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf4.socket.net (mf4b.socket.net [216.106.48.199]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m820FUoQ042287 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:15:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf4.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BFFC45F54 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:15:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historical Costume" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <003d01c90c5d$b3c62950$04eb6942@julie> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? 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What little I know, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatting What she may have been referring to is filet lace which use a shuttle of sorts to make the netting background. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filet_lace http://lace.lacefairy.com/ID/FiletID.html >From my understanding, tatting came about as a way to mimic point laces, like, http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_289.htm Also, problem now a days is that anything that has a netted looking background is called filet and thus you end up with filet crochet and filet tatting which can cause some confusion. I do not know how far back tatting may have gone but from what I have read I believe that it was around in the early 1500s and may have feasibly been around in the late 1400s but slim chance being on garments. De -----Original Message----- Greetings I have always heard that tatting didn't come into use before the 1700s and so haven't been doing it for Tudor/Elizabethan. Yesterday I was told by a lady that needle tatting can be documented to quite early and she said it's mentioned several times in the Canterbury Tales. She also mentioned that it's related to making fishing nets. I'm wondering if any of you knowledgeable folks out there can help me. I'm having a problem with her data for a couple of reasons. 1) If tatting shows up in the Canterbury Tales, I know word meanings change over hundreds of years. Do we know that tatting then is what we call tatting? 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and picots of tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making proof of tatting. Any help would be appreciated. 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De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 16:37:49 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m82KbnBq017034 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:37:49 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m82Kbijh024445 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:37:47 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m82KbFD2081393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:37:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82KbAd6022715; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:37:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from warrior.concentric.com (warrior.concentric.com [207.155.253.150]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82Kb75a022660 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:37:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jtknits@jtknits.cts.com) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id D56264EB5; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from julie (66-105-235-7.sd-02.cvx.algx.net [66.105.235.7]) (Authenticated sender: jtknits@jtknits.cts.com) by warrior.concentric.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id D56264EB5 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Julie Tamura" To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:37:04 -0700 Message-ID: <007c01c90d3b$aab770b0$07eb6942@julie> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckNJiSOM2kDiX9CQuuSNgD6kMuZGAAFVymw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:37:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Thank you all for your answers. You reinforced what I thought I knew/remembered...it's out of our period. I've saved your messages and will used when challenged again Julie _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 17:08:33 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m82L8WO9018470 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:08:32 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m82L8RTr018993 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:08:31 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m82L84wr083858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:08:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82L83Uq052926; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:08:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.91.150]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m82L7xg8052767 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:08:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from zkraemerova@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46689 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2008 21:07:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=qoP8OKLZY3lMetE8H3xFVcKKcAvDNcdrPFMjK9QowD9oAaCdqZkyXDjaZOWBTUv7goFXH8cdyrmdnMWGeEK9Mk/3v0HObroS/hQqmxBjkXKWFbhaU0Elx/PTlJ2RE58woV5wEuF5twLOU6uN9oEzXEVnqGJLF3p7G/fVRCxEhdU=; X-YMail-OSG: .mrF8G0VM1lwKr2r_QbBVZkR8vk2nmdI0jtfaEwg4lELUs_dOoYs3l4kyOGAFKXIT254DCWwAVVT8lgszmaI6exiTWyFf8LXyCP1r4ZxtTDN4FwnfJO4JtFh1TBE3Gmee1zAsm_f8lV65NP9EO4tuogt Received: from [212.24.150.226] by web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:07:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Zuzana Kraemerova To: h-costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Janome MC 6600 Professional X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7ea2c2a8-37cf-413c-973f-96a9e45d412d X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48BDAB4B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:08:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi, I am planning to buy a new sewing machine - I have one cca 7 years old Pfaff (don't know the type by heart, but it was one of the basic sewing machines at a rather low cost) and I am looking for something more professional, solid and quiet. Firstly I thought about buying an industrial sewing machine, but since I don't sew day and night (I sew once in two days and usually the whole weekend), I thought I won't make the best of it. And anyway, I would really need full automatic buttonholes and lacing holes. I would also profit from some decorative stitches. I know there are half-professional sewing machines or home-sewing machines of higher quality (better materials, more metal, less plastic). I've been recommended the Janome MC 6600 Professional. I have a Janome overlocker and am very satisfied with it, so I suppose all Janomes are of a good quality. Do you know this sewing machine or any other you think that's good? I plan not to spend on it more than $1500. I also have a special question regarding the lacing hole stitch. Can it be enlarged? Does it work? Is it possible to use for lacing when I have no time for hand-made buttonholes? How much stress can it take? Thaks for advice, Zuzana _____________________________ Sartor...custom-made costumes www.sartor.cz _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 17:28:50 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m82LSnvH019385 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:49 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m82LSiCn029280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:48 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m82LSRmT085733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:28:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82LSRfa071168; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:28:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail45.atl.registeredsite.com (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1+eJeAE4bHTFyE+X8QkJvK4k4PF0y760mE@mail45.atl.registeredsite.com [209.237.134.235]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82LSMjD071098 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:28:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from robin@netherton.net) Received: from mymail.myregisteredsite.com (wmailnode1g.webmail.web.com [209.237.134.185]) by mail45.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m82LSMad015964 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 7967 invoked by uid 80); 2 Sep 2008 21:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.64?) (editor@netherton.net@68.92.251.148) by 209.237.134.181 with ESMTPA; 2 Sep 2008 21:28:21 -0000 Message-ID: <48BDAFF1.6010301@netherton.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:28:17 -0500 From: Robin Netherton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historic Costume List X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Ohio lecture day, pre-registration update X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d864a3e7-c254-47c3-ad5b-5056686abe53 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48BDB00C.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:28:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO (Feel free to forward or repost this message as you like.) Someone on this list asked me to post when pre-registration is open for my upcoming lecture day, Oct. 11 at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Pre-registration information and additional details are now online at http://www.greneboke.com/robinnetherton/robinnetherton.shtml I'm very happy to note that because the university is helping cover the cost of getting me there, the student group that is sponsoring my visit was able to set a very reasonable fee. Perhaps that will help make up for the high gas prices for people driving in! I'll be giving five lectures: - The Gothic Fitted Dress - The Greenland Gored Gown - Will the Real Sideless Surcote Please Stand Up? - The Fifteenth-Century V-Neck Gown - When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources More detail on the website. --Robin _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 17:39:17 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m82LdGEP019872 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:39:16 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m82LdA1E027881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:39:14 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m82Lcb4c086659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:38:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82LcZEi079914; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:38:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.91.152]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m82LcU1q079757 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:38:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from zkraemerova@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76627 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2008 21:38:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=1m38xhAyxrChcrc0lZMWXaxJhyfBNCqXbemdMFgAs+iNciUnKo4dzTQPyj2dxoQ/iUN1zfeK+kFAxLWmmByijJKEDquYjsONM4Cox6wOVRHMAKUhyctguhq0GaEdD+OuGSTlTLMYk+3McU04XdNN3qzAy0Qy+uwdJEyAZ5aK2G0=; X-YMail-OSG: _U3lnmoVM1nnoMtp_S2xniUwIBw_kj2Lm1_zpfhcUhBTreRMR_i0WB6uQUV7poo2t6PlPOAV_7Ko_zuXAO3Rx1Jm9iVIMJUYC7wjIimHhm1QLv7XNcUWv0Q_0z6xxSQswHBkylqP0qigpxwLgrYyx0mn Received: from [212.24.150.226] by web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:38:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Zuzana Kraemerova To: h-costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <303730.72903.qm@web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Janome MC 6600 Professional X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 371598fc-782d-42cb-b6a2-5d9318c71074 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BDB27E.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:39:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Just to add, I do not quilt, but very often make dresses with large skirts. I heard this machine is more for quilters, what do you think? ___________________________ Sartor...custom-made costumes www.sartor.cz _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 18:01:38 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m82M1c72020716 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:01:38 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m82M1XCv017143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:01:36 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m82M0tYC088620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:00:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82M0tHW099661; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:00:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m82M0pTO099539 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:00:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6122139AF7 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48BDC580.70404@reddawn.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:00:16 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Janome MC 6600 Professional X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ef1754a0-4a54-46b4-a1bc-be1867e1b7fc X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BDB7BD.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:01:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: > it was one of the basic sewing machines at a rather low cost) and I am looking for something more professional, solid and quiet. ... I would really need full automatic buttonholes and lacing holes. I would also profit from some decorative stitches. You should be able to get a lot of stitches and buttonholes on any high end machine. The best way to tell how good the stitches are (professional looking) is to go test drive one. Take some fabric scraps of the kind you normally sew with. Testing it will also tell you how smooth and quiet the machine is, and whether YOU like the placement and use of the controls. > I have a Janome overlocker and am very satisfied with it, so I suppose all Janomes are of a good quality. > I have heard mixed reviews over the years. Like automobiles, a manufacturer's name is not always a sign of a trouble-free machine. > Do you know this sewing machine or any other you think that's good? I plan not to spend on it more than $1500. > You will be able to get a lot of features for $1500. > I heard this machine is more for quilters, what do you think? A "quilter's" machine usually means it has a knee pedal instead of a foot operated control, and that there is a 'needle down' setting for turning corners (which I find very useful for doing square necklines). Also, some of the 'quilt' machines have a built-in walking foot for sewing multiple layers without them shifting. Those are extra features, there's no reason it can't be used for costume sewing, home dec, or mending as well. Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 20:27:03 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m830R3B1025693 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:27:03 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m830QwfS024007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:27:01 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m830Qc1t097441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m830QZOK002700; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.138]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m830QX9Y002621 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sstormwatch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68721 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2008 00:26:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Mb8sAUjhI5L/d+HNp+gufNgua0Olo2iddTBHYEDqRjbxytzmOuOC/B+KHgcJ1dQ7ivLe+ERc5vLu0sXpbeQE5GdYiBS50B28rzxx7Jnh7fApYkh7bkmv1cGN6qkCw4w+rvmXx79BKAgDaWglbDRM2f+dRpLQPKVAdNMbU1I1UwM=; X-YMail-OSG: pKhKzskVM1kNq4Ubz19y4cJxMXa78UdRH1kafhLLWc1bWOP83Rxu2X57pPwniKhnQouCLSSgFN8g5R6h46gbXOxAGfug8eHxwlmpSfdQ7TafazsQwq5EeTrjGi7NA1orB.yT.IOJoNpwKEOJzPvOw8BB Received: from [69.230.27.252] by web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:26:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kimiko Small To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <848629.68676.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Janome MC 6600 Professional X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3cfba6bf-9577-453d-b0c6-bb1923fa04c3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BDD9D2.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:27:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I have a lower end MC model (2000 series). The lacing hole stitch on that is not very adjustable, and seems more decorative than usable to me. It is not why I bought the machine, and I love my Janome (also known as New Home in the USA). However, they could have modified the lacing hole stitch in the newer models. I would suggest test driving it locally, and put it through the paces you would normally, with your own fabrics. Good luck, and have fun with whatever new machine you end up with. Kimiko --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: > I've been recommended the > Janome MC 6600 Professional. ... > I also have a special question regarding the lacing hole > stitch. Can it be enlarged? Does it work? Is it possible to > use for lacing when I have no time for hand-made > buttonholes? How much stress can it take? > > Thaks for advice, > > Zuzana _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 21:04:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8314Aco027016 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m83143E7002964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:07 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8311cqw099328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:01:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8311bnM025264; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:01:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (mail-out2.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.72]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8311X9J025212 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:01:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from stilskin@netspace.net.au) Received: from localhost (webmail4.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.171]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68ED68EDD for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:01:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from 220-253-123-7.VIC.netspace.net.au (220-253-123-7.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.123.7]) by webmail.netspace.net.au (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:01:31 +1000 Message-ID: <1220403691.48bde1eb73e16@webmail.netspace.net.au> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:01:31 +1000 From: stilskin@netspace.net.au To: Historical Costume References: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <485842.46517.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Janome MC 6600 Professional X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b0131b8c-b296-46da-a717-1d2121cca969 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48BDE283.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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A waste of thin plastic! -C. ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 2 21:17:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m831HwDo027491 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:17:58 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m831HrHQ031329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:17:56 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m831HX9P000393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:17:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m831HXPY035225; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:17:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m831HUDq035157 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:17:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from claning@igc.org) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=igc.org; b=LJ4tn57UPy+MbPGudQ2fJRddKReeSUI+kd4AMzpy3nGGv0CVjAK87vS4x8sxCzKa; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.126.135.149] (helo=[172.16.1.10]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kagzt-0006oC-A7 for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:17:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <007c01c90d3b$aab770b0$07eb6942@julie> References: <007c01c90d3b$aab770b0$07eb6942@julie> Message-Id: <0196D9B5-2C00-4430-AF77-A56E8E635768@igc.org> From: Chris Laning Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:12:08 -0700 To: Historical Costume X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ELNK-Trace: 295639c8be741617f84080ff3e30f22cef3fd0943baac1a1d2e89076e2b9876e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.126.135.149 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e345e285-bbc8-45bc-b42a-213481f72385 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48BDE5C1.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:17:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Sep 2, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Julie Tamura wrote: > Thank you all for your answers. You reinforced what I thought I > knew/remembered...it's out of our period. I've saved your messages > and will > used when challenged again It sounds to me as though several stories got confused together and came out as one . Chaucer is often cited (incorrectly, I think) as an early source for "blackwork"; needle tatting does seem to appear at least as early as shuttle tatting if not earlier (but not in Chaucer ;) and as others have explained, fishing nets do use knots. Put 'em all together and you get what you heard . A lot of word-of- mouth "history" seems to travel this way. ____________________________________________________________ O Chris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 3 01:41:32 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m835fWSq004037 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 01:41:32 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m835fQHO011143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 01:41:30 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m835etU3013741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:40:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m835eqpA085968; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:40:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m835eo4s085946 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:40:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from chiara.francesca@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1970124wah.3 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:40:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :message-id; bh=mhqoy4aAlamsCk+w9sQXOVTwtyq8JUva7NxMWeMIDUQ=; b=gva06xjbHmXgLCrDJvM1xAtDKm/UxZ2j/PQQuePXdnHBgX4BnNnOu5ugTxkssswjFO jeHimnbIgeOwzGOKaDveuMV7SN/v9VzF9HJ9vCJoTlIcGBuRZX4jf8R4944bebEmNZqP zgGJ11YfM+KVeikkQSDiWZzRdS++QdBm1mBMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:message-id; b=fH66+X1SAa9MnIHgjoLhgzNZgz8u9JQNYABmV8eX/dAuww2PNVIfYh58X4d9frB5co 2ZlaX+umsfETYdNQ9tI7+b16JFx84WrTkoymlCCH3Pen6ysYL3WfHKeuJXdoDGmupIco qMdblZqMKpShxOKX9SEM5Z6nMFULLUYtjp/us= Received: by 10.114.57.15 with SMTP id f15mr5017077waa.116.1220420450326; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FranchescaPC ( [67.160.37.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n22sm18716837pof.13.2008.09.02.22.40.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chiara Francesca" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <007c01c90d3b$aab770b0$07eb6942@julie> In-Reply-To: <007c01c90d3b$aab770b0$07eb6942@julie> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:40:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckNJiSOM2kDiX9CQuuSNgD6kMuZGAAFVymwABJGKkA= Content-Language: en-us Message-ID: <48be2361.16be600a.28ac.58a5@mx.google.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600? 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De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 3 16:17:46 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m83KHkRR022353 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:17:46 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m83KHdw4010387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:17:43 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83KHDnH071129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:17:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83KH8sN088730; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:17:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from SIRIUS.campus.muc.prv (webmail.muc.edu [199.18.39.150]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83KGtiE088268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:16:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from RICKARPA@muc.edu) Received: from Orion.campus.muc.prv ([10.18.40.20]) by SIRIUS.campus.muc.prv ([199.18.39.150]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:18:44 -0400 From: "Rickard, Patty" To: Historical Costume Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:18:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: [h-cost] Ohio lecture day, pre-registration update Thread-Index: AckNQyJHcc8wjLTBRfCdifClktxM0AAvxMHw Message-ID: <9303A5F18320A641ACBABBCE4DAB25CA11BFB328@Orion.campus.muc.prv> References: <48BDAFF1.6010301@netherton.net> In-Reply-To: <48BDAFF1.6010301@netherton.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ohio lecture day, pre-registration update X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ee666435-926e-45a7-ac87-23a6cc4f7340 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48BEF0E3.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:17:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Super! Thank you. Patty -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:28 PM To: Historic Costume List Subject: [h-cost] Ohio lecture day, pre-registration update (Feel free to forward or repost this message as you like.) Someone on this list asked me to post when pre-registration is open for my upcoming lecture day, Oct. 11 at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Pre-registration information and additional details are now online at http://www.greneboke.com/robinnetherton/robinnetherton.shtml I'm very happy to note that because the university is helping cover the cost of getting me there, the student group that is sponsoring my visit was able to set a very reasonable fee. Perhaps that will help make up for the high gas prices for people driving in! I'll be giving five lectures: - The Gothic Fitted Dress - The Greenland Gored Gown - Will the Real Sideless Surcote Please Stand Up? - The Fifteenth-Century V-Neck Gown - When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources More detail on the website. --Robin _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 3 16:24:19 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m83KOIEf022494 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:24:18 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m83KOChQ005190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:24:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83KNuWL074889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:23:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83KNuAJ099107; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:23:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.197]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83KNrS4099025 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:23:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-24-125-68-36.hsd1.va.comcast.net [24.125.68.36]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KaytM0Uhx-0005Ds; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:23:53 -0400 Message-ID: <82A8A4A6AEA741F7A271637F128B1500@momlaptop> From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "h-costume" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18HcMfz/65/QbvJ9h5hj8oMRiqNm7mPk7+j5uB hxXCluoW7vittJoCFwPnGa4mP3+wxFK9MeFsJHmhBTaPAc19Dh aQAEqsnC/xtvUOUo8Fe2A== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Designers questions X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7294341d-8ec7-40cb-aa0c-fe5a8821a18c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BEF26C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:24:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I am working on history of fashion designers from the early 20th Century and have a few questions. Paquin: I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone know her first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I have come across some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several names. I have in 1907 an illustrator and designer named Lucy and in the 1910s Lucille. Could this be Lady Duff Gordon? Can anyone suggest a book that would include lesser known designers from pre-1930s? I have a lot of designer images without an information about their business. For example: Womenwear: Lewis 1910s, Bernard 1910s, Klein 1910s, Nicole Groult, and Germaine 1900s-1920s. Etienne Drian, 1900s-1910s, I have info that he was an illustrator but I have images from several magazines that refer to him as a fashion designer. I have a small paragraph in one of my books about him. Menswear: Kriegck 1920s, Larsen 1920s Milliner: Cora Marson, Camille Roger 1910s-1920s Hair Designs: Emile 1920s This is just a few of the designers that I need information. I actually have about 100 designers with lots of images and no background information to go online. I started this project to shed light on designers so that people would know other designers were important that time seems to have forgotten. I guess the fashion history books have forgotten them too. I would at least like to provide some career highlights for each designer. I am revamping my Designers of Their Time website, http://www.costumegallery.com/Designers/ . I am about 2/3 finished with the website's makeover. Now visitors can click on the designer names and go to their pages and view career highlights and thumbnail images in our collection. Each designer's page has a beautiful background with their fashion illustrations. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeslideshows.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 3 17:17:55 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m83LHtAk024007 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:17:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m83LHcFT006367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:17:42 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83LH5uN004315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:17:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83LGp8U076610; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:16:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from alexandria29.2mhost.com (alexandria29.2mhost.com [75.126.152.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83LGli1076303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:16:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from suzi@suziclarke.co.uk) Received: from 79-73-103-89.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([79.73.103.89] helo=suzi.suziclarke.co.uk) by alexandria29.2mhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KaziT-0005Pi-Lj for h-costume@indra.com; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:16:42 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20080903221026.03bff138@suziclarke.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:13:58 +0100 To: Historical Costume From: Suzi Clarke In-Reply-To: <82A8A4A6AEA741F7A271637F128B1500@momlaptop> References: <82A8A4A6AEA741F7A271637F128B1500@momlaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alexandria29.2mhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - indra.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - suziclarke.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions/Lucile X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1b58cd65-05a2-448c-b7fa-57be0feef9e3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BEFEF2.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:17:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO At 21:23 03/09/2008, you wrote: >I am working on history of fashion designers = >from the early 20th Century and have a few questions. > >Paquin: >I have that Mme Paquin business was from = >1891-1956. Does anyone know her first name? I = >can't find it in my resources. Also I have = >come across some French images in 1919 for a = >Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a relative = >working under Mme Paquin's label or house? > >Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several = >names. I have in 1907 an illustrator and = >designer named Lucy and in the 1910s = >Lucille. Could this be Lady Duff Gordon? This one I know - yes "Lucille" was Lady Duff Gordon. Lucy Christiana, Lady Duff Gordon (n=E9e = Sutherland) = (June = 13, 1863 = =96 = April = 20, = 1935) = was a leading = fashion = designer in the late nineteenth and early = twentieth centuries, best known as "Lucile," her = professional name. She opened branches of her = London = couture = house in = Paris, = New = York City and = Chicago, = dressing high society, the stage and early silent = cinema[1]. Lucy Duff Gordon is also remembered as = a survivor of the sinking of the = RMS = Titanic = in 1912, and as the losing = party = in the precedent-setting 1917 = contract = law = case = of = Wood = v. Lucy, Lady Duff-Gordon, in which Judge = Benjamin = N. Cardozo wrote the opinion for New York's = highest court, the New York Court of Appeals[2] From Wikipedia, but also via, in less detail my = tutor at the London College of Fashion some years ago. The others I can't help with. Suzi >Can anyone suggest a book that would include = >lesser known designers from pre-1930s? I have a = >lot of designer images without an information about their business. > >For example: >Womenwear: Lewis 1910s, Bernard 1910s, Klein = >1910s, Nicole Groult, and Germaine = >1900s-1920s. Etienne Drian, 1900s-1910s, I have = >info that he was an illustrator but I have = >images from several magazines that refer to him = >as a fashion designer. I have a small paragraph = >in one of my books about him. >Menswear: Kriegck 1920s, Larsen 1920s >Milliner: Cora Marson, Camille Roger 1910s-1920s >Hair Designs: Emile 1920s > >This is just a few of the designers that I need = >information. I actually have about 100 = >designers with lots of images and no background information to go online. > >I started this project to shed light on = >designers so that people would know other = >designers were important that time seems to have = >forgotten. I guess the fashion history books = >have forgotten them too. I would at least like = >to provide some career highlights for each designer. > >I am revamping my Designers of Their Time = >website, = >http://www.costumegallery.com/Designers/ . I am = >about 2/3 finished with the website's = >makeover. Now visitors can click on the = >designer names and go to their pages and view = >career highlights and thumbnail images in our = >collection. Each designer's page has a = >beautiful background with their fashion illustrations. > >Penny Ladnier, >Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites >www.costumegallery.com >www.costumelibrary.com >www.costumeclassroom.com >www.costumeslideshows.com >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 3 18:24:00 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m83MO0wl025590 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:24:00 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m83MNt70009655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:23:58 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83MNX3o049367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m83MNVcX080008; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.15]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m83MNSK6079746 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scarlettquilts@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 14157 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2008 22:23:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3u6NYNDpPH+Zl+OcqsXICQSKNIT+XBXowo7z5DD5YE7OKuSMxjg2wgmoQ7sYQeME11PvOCHSHumbFMo41pde7Ggnn6bupMoQ9HQcK6Qk/m05gqfUYZNzDlLIz75xCRCsDH6jMR+EqevUNZoQB1MdTOTQxpZS7aGHnjr4c3aiG8w=; X-YMail-OSG: _N7MQPAVM1k0f0PnfxMgH7DWKM54JQZSxKupXSZZyNd.FVtJV309Hu5qomJRf0CuLuB46wJ9Sv4Mc6._mqWGI_7OE.6L2oxaSxn6YWCgQzH71xUUDESBce8Yz45O.YnkAi6xzO_EOnQtq5Peq.ZhWNFh Received: from [74.71.19.247] by web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:23:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathleen Gillies To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <640158.14091.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Janome 6600 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: aad747a0-75a4-452f-8185-cfd705132c9a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48BF0E7B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:23:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Hi, I have read this thread with interest. I just purchased a Janome 6600 and am very excited to get sewing with it. It is made of metal and has an extended harp area. If you would like to find how others like this machine, I suggest you read the reviews on Pattern Review.com, they have many reviews. It has an accufeed foot and a ruffler that works with it. It also has about 150 stitches but I don't know the eyelet one very well. The eyelet on my Janome 9000 is not very well-reinforced. I think you can repeat the stitch on the same spot a couple of times and that might help. I used it in the store to sew on binding with the accufeed foot and it works a little better than my regular machine, more even feed and less skipping. I am making some rennie faire bodices for some people and they are not too concerned about period authenticity and like to use grommets instead of eyelets. Some issues of the earlier models have been the paint chipping but I don't believe that effect how it operates. I was able to purchase it for $1200, and I purchased the table that it goes with for an additional $200. Kathy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 4 15:11:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m84JBiuu010207 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:11:44 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m84JBb3V001920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:11:42 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84JB9mg026563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:11:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84JB59s067574; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:11:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from asmtpout011.mac.com (asmtpout011.mac.com [17.148.16.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84JB0xL067231 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:11:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gawne@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from UWPC4BY5831 ([140.107.73.202]) by asmtp011.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0K6O00FAIQLAIU20@asmtp011.mac.com> for h-costume@indra.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <04ad01c90ec1$e18b9cb0$ca496b8c@fhcrc.org> From: Agnes Gawne To: h-costume@indra.com References: Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:10:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions - Paquin X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 884d8619-bcd2-4d38-b88b-3df9cfdebc9f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C032E9.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:11:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Hi Penny - I have a book at home about Mme Paquin - I don't have it here at work. Off the top of my head this is what I know about her. Jeanne Paquin 1869-1936 maiden name Beckers born in Saint Denis, France married in 1891 her salon was at 3 rue de la Paix in Paris She made evening gowns, used a lot of lace and fur - had a lot of historical inspiration in her designs. She also had tailored day wear and did some costuming for theater. She was a big promoter of her fashions (more than was usual at the time) having models wearing her gowns show up at the opera and things like that - considered sort of outrageous at the time. She opened salons in London, New York, Madrid, Buenos Aires She retired from active designing in 1920, her Maison continued on under the direction of Henri Joire (I think he was her half-brother) with designs by Madeline Wallis, in 1936 Ana de Pombo took over the designs and by 1942 the head designer was Antonio del Castillo [later of the house of Lanvin]. Others took over after him and eventually the Maison closed in 1956 under financial difficulties. She was the first woman designer to recieve the Cross of the Legion of Honor in 1913. She also served as President of La Chambre Syndicale de la Couture Parisienne from 1917-1919 my book (at home) is written by contemporary designer Dominique Sirop- he seems to think she was one of the greatest designers of all time. I don't know off hand of any book specifically about pre 1930s designers but I would bet that if there is one it's in French. Agnes > 2. Designers questions (Penny Ladnier) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:50 -0400 > From: "Penny Ladnier" > Subject: [h-cost] Designers questions > To: "h-costume" > Message-ID: <82A8A4A6AEA741F7A271637F128B1500@momlaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am working on history of fashion designers from the early 20th Century > and have a few questions. > > Paquin: > I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone know her > first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I have come across > some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a > relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? > > Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several names. I have in 1907 an > illustrator and designer named Lucy and in the 1910s Lucille. Could this > be Lady Duff Gordon? > > Can anyone suggest a book that would include lesser known designers from > pre-1930s? I have a lot of designer images without an information about > their business. > > For example: > Womenwear: Lewis 1910s, Bernard 1910s, Klein 1910s, Nicole Groult, and > Germaine 1900s-1920s. Etienne Drian, 1900s-1910s, I have info that he was > an illustrator but I have images from several magazines that refer to him > as a fashion designer. I have a small paragraph in one of my books about > him. > Menswear: Kriegck 1920s, Larsen 1920s > Milliner: Cora Marson, Camille Roger 1910s-1920s > Hair Designs: Emile 1920s > > This is just a few of the designers that I need information. I actually > have about 100 designers with lots of images and no background information > to go online. > > I started this project to shed light on designers so that people would > know other designers were important that time seems to have forgotten. I > guess the fashion history books have forgotten them too. I would at least > like to provide some career highlights for each designer. > > I am revamping my Designers of Their Time website, > http://www.costumegallery.com/Designers/ . I am about 2/3 finished with > the website's makeover. Now visitors can click on the designer names and > go to their pages and view career highlights and thumbnail images in our > collection. Each designer's page has a beautiful background with their > fashion illustrations. > > Penny Ladnier, > Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites > www.costumegallery.com > www.costumelibrary.com > www.costumeclassroom.com > www.costumeslideshows.com > > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 4 15:13:15 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m84JDF3i010323 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m84JD8ik018558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:13:12 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84JCgqh027623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:12:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84JCgq0070407; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:12:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from asmtpout014.mac.com (asmtpout014.mac.com [17.148.16.89]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84JCcwO070094 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:12:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gawne@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from UWPC4BY5831 ([140.107.73.202]) by asmtp014.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0K6O00H50QOPT900@asmtp014.mac.com> for h-costume@indra.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <04ae01c90ec2$2a987a90$ca496b8c@fhcrc.org> From: Agnes Gawne To: h-costume@indra.com References: Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:12:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions - Paquin X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: bd6f0952-561a-4c89-9bbd-422ab1819384 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C03344.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:13:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Hi Penny - I have a book at home about Mme Paquin - I don't have it here at work. Off the top of my head this is what I know about her. Jeanne Paquin 1869-1936 maiden name Beckers born in Saint Denis, France married in 1891 her salon was at 3 rue de la Paix in Paris She made evening gowns, used a lot of lace and fur - had a lot of historical inspiration in her designs. She also had tailored day wear and did some costuming for theater. She was a big promoter of her fashions (more than was usual at the time) having models wearing her gowns show up at the opera and things like that - considered sort of outrageous at the time. She opened salons in London, New York, Madrid, Buenos Aires She retired from active designing in 1920, her Maison continued on under the direction of Henri Joire (I think he was her half-brother) with designs by Madeline Wallis, in 1936 Ana de Pombo took over the designs and by 1942 the head designer was Antonio del Castillo [later of the house of Lanvin]. Others took over after him and eventually the Maison closed in 1956 under financial difficulties. She was the first woman designer to recieve the Cross of the Legion of Honor in 1913. She also served as President of La Chambre Syndicale de la Couture Parisienne from 1917-1919 my book (at home) is written by contemporary designer Dominique Sirop- he seems to think she was one of the greatest designers of all time. I don't know off hand of any book specifically about pre 1930s designers but I would bet that if there is one it's in French. Agnes > 2. Designers questions (Penny Ladnier) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:23:50 -0400 > From: "Penny Ladnier" > Subject: [h-cost] Designers questions > To: "h-costume" > Message-ID: <82A8A4A6AEA741F7A271637F128B1500@momlaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am working on history of fashion designers from the early 20th Century > and have a few questions. > > Paquin: > I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone know her > first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I have come across > some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a > relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? > > Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several names. I have in 1907 an > illustrator and designer named Lucy and in the 1910s Lucille. Could this > be Lady Duff Gordon? > > Can anyone suggest a book that would include lesser known designers from > pre-1930s? I have a lot of designer images without an information about > their business. > > For example: > Womenwear: Lewis 1910s, Bernard 1910s, Klein 1910s, Nicole Groult, and > Germaine 1900s-1920s. Etienne Drian, 1900s-1910s, I have info that he was > an illustrator but I have images from several magazines that refer to him > as a fashion designer. I have a small paragraph in one of my books about > him. > Menswear: Kriegck 1920s, Larsen 1920s > Milliner: Cora Marson, Camille Roger 1910s-1920s > Hair Designs: Emile 1920s > > This is just a few of the designers that I need information. I actually > have about 100 designers with lots of images and no background information > to go online. > > I started this project to shed light on designers so that people would > know other designers were important that time seems to have forgotten. I > guess the fashion history books have forgotten them too. I would at least > like to provide some career highlights for each designer. > > I am revamping my Designers of Their Time website, > http://www.costumegallery.com/Designers/ . I am about 2/3 finished with > the website's makeover. Now visitors can click on the designer names and > go to their pages and view career highlights and thumbnail images in our > collection. Each designer's page has a beautiful background with their > fashion illustrations. > > Penny Ladnier, > Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites > www.costumegallery.com > www.costumelibrary.com > www.costumeclassroom.com > www.costumeslideshows.com > > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 4 16:33:13 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m84KXD8A014544 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:33:13 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m84KX7C7010677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:33:11 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84KWiXJ002591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:32:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84KWgEI023365; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:32:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84KWdj7023281 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:32:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so82178yxb.71 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:32:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=vqAEZ8+0A7j+4+eG5lz0MebVF2ju4R1y4avh86jwswY=; b=jZXOOt8O63HxL2CY0jGps4ZBNvApYvfPFUkmBCQwMA7SQXz+trK7LQ1Y5wwmW3HeQj LC8TS4MgoUB/80Kl59rwDEJWoAmRKJYpuRoU7p9F95UOhbD9rbIjQBbqMXGU4rfdUxi7 hwdumhdGpQuExN7swRaDqCsbSZQr/noadj9UQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=of6Mwq0KsaN673JDx7EtcNzAfPiqgQI/lwPzEW4e0/+UcAF29Lcoi4OXTiMgV6KHsS /M9mQJPN/WTuyaUJDhc/9zRl0NJ5r4DRM8CSN5nCuLMsQBPKXLTfy6/XlRbUxojv7sPr RtRHCsWWPPg3egzEybOCwIYf02jYGO8QU40Pw= Received: by 10.150.230.15 with SMTP id c15mr15068748ybh.140.1220560359336; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.227.17 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:32:39 -0700 From: Cin To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] history of fashion designers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 76514949-6542-47b1-884a-76a055a73dbf X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C04603.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:33:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: O On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > I am working on history of fashion designers from the early 20th Century and have a few questions. > > Paquin: > I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone know her first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I have come across some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? Mme Jeanne Paquin & the biz was open 1891-1954 according to "Fashion". Georges Barbier did a bunch of Paquin illustrations. > Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several names. I have in 1907 an illustrator and designer named Lucy and in the 1910s Lucille. Could this be Lady Duff Gordon? Close, Lady Duff Gordon's label read "Lucile" or "Lucille". > Can anyone suggest a book that would include lesser known designers from pre-1930s? I have a lot of designer images without an information about their business. > Kyoto Costume Museum has a lovely publication called "Fashion: A History from the 18th to the 20th century" with brief bios and usually one representational photo of a signature work. I doubt it's as much info as you want. One page per just isnt very much detail. --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 4 17:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m84LXhBX018096 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:33:43 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m84LXcNB010007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:33:42 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84LXIUj030846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:33:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84LXEBd003631; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:33:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m84LXBcP003328 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:33:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Debloughcostumes@aol.com) Received: from Debloughcostumes@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.bc2.2f7475de (30738) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:33:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Debloughcostumes@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:33:01 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Designers questions X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0d478be7-4e15-4ffd-814f-f9066d437472 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C05432.005 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:33:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: O In a message dated 04/09/2008 19:06:20 GMT Standard Time, h-costume-request@indra.com writes: Paquin: I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone know her first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I have come across some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. Would Joseph be a relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? I think it's Jeanne Paquin. In Paris?? Dates would fit. I know she retired around 1920-ish, so it's possible. The others I can't help with offhand, but I'll see if I have anything that refers to them. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 4 21:48:42 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m851mf0K031182 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:48:41 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m851mZXu013435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:48:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m851m7RK010388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:48:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m851m4wd058610; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:48:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtpauth.cybermesa.com (smtpauth.cybermesa.com [65.19.4.28]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m851m0Yw058494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:48:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sovagris@cybermesa.com) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (75-162-17-184.desm.qwest.net [75.162.17.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpauth.cybermesa.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m851lxAL015445 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:47:59 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <28C4F08C-BD51-4B5D-8ED7-423203ED37DE@cybermesa.com> From: Suzanne Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:47:57 -0500 To: h-costume@indra.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/8163/Thu Sep 4 13:11:48 2008 on smtpauth.cybermesa.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions/Lucile X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3d413668-24f1-4d35-929d-3c579c81b5ce X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C08FF3.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:48:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Penny, Note that Suzi put the correct spelling in her subject line -- Lady Duff Gordon used the name "Lucile" [ONE 'l'] professionally. (Sorry, I used to be a proof-reader back in the days before spell-checkers.) And Wikipedia is a fairly reliable source for fact-checking stuff like this. ;-) Just don't trust them on anything that has political overtones! ... hmmm, I don't have enough information to say whether "Lucy" was the same person who became "Lucile"... I'd say probably not, but others may have better sources. (Remember that, unlike today, Lucy was a popular name 100 years ago.) I'm pretty sure that Mme Paquin's forename was Jeanne, but I don't have a reliable source for that. :-) My home library is heavily oriented towards the 16th century... I'll try to find the answers for Paquin tomorrow at work. Suzanne On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:00 PM, h-costume-request@indra.com wrote: > From: Suzi Clarke > Date: September 3, 2008 4:13:58 PM CDT > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions/Lucile > Reply-To: Historical Costume > > > At 21:23 03/09/2008, you wrote: >> I am working on history of fashion designers from the early 20th >> Century and have a few questions. >> >> Paquin: >> I have that Mme Paquin business was from 1891-1956. Does anyone >> know her first name? I can't find it in my resources. Also I >> have come across some French images in 1919 for a Joseph Paquin. >> Would Joseph be a relative working under Mme Paquin's label or house? >> >> Lady Duff Gordon: Did she go by several names. I have in 1907 an >> illustrator and designer named Lucy and in the 1910s Lucille. >> Could this be Lady Duff Gordon? > > This one I know - yes "Lucille" was Lady Duff Gordon. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 5 14:11:49 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85IBnCG004893 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m85IBg5w007908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:11:46 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85IBN7m050805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85IBJsi038763; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85IBGwV038717 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from heather.a.vaughan@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id b39so229998ugd.29 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=tXoKBaZnL4bDFh2Lu1T401gJwWVaRRyE7/+xH5rIb58=; b=HwVsArOydmfe0O9mr1jnrws8PgrzWftSmM1MkjbfMMM15mGtaL8yjKnwbWCUEsN3pA tx2USp4JHMYt36Pn5yvrz0IjWm0vzGqMssogH5nbViEN1Ar+2VcsmSmCdjJEqwrmQhMc HWY/3vXDX1dsYuk7gf3PjWcv5KCIkpCfxBl2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=prkg2gqTXcER6AgxludUBWYfAjRO74pI3bKr5FO77m4TC/F1yhux8xfMRUn4ZFaBdm bQC02jkKK2yufqI6oeNhdyrnLsx9fWMG+zecWuswmnq8eBQgFRA7wUatGNUOYWHQP3NM TzMVhFjVALf+4jOCmYINlvF6X7k5hW1C86toc= Received: by 10.67.115.8 with SMTP id s8mr885486ugm.50.1220638275898; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.233.1 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <17a9ca530809051111g68f87ca6q470cb5e8dc22c84f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:11:15 -0700 From: "Heather Vaughan" To: h-costume@mail.indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Fashion Designers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c3893991-6377-4524-a3ee-148250b3333a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C1765E.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:11:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: O There is a wonderful book on Russian designers in Paris, called Beauty in Exile ( http://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Exile-Nobility-Revolution-Influenced/dp/0810957019 ) Also, Natacha Rambova (mostly a film costume designer) designed fashion briefly and was the focus of my masters these (details at www.fashionhistorian.net). Please also note that Greeenwood press will have a new encyclopedia of fashion history out in October that covers this time period in detail (I co-authored the 1920s and 1930s sections): http://www.amazon.com/Greenwood-Encyclopedia-Clothing-through-American/dp/0313358559/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220638191&sr=1-3 -- Heather A. Vaughan Fashion & Textile Historian & Secretary, Western Region Costume Society of America heather.a.vaughan@gmail.com www.fashionhistorian.net Blog contributor: www.wornthrough.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 5 14:34:23 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85IYNCI006197 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:34:23 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m85IYHxh005411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:34:21 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85IXunh052562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:33:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85IXtCT059062; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:33:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85IXp3M058931 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:33:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from SNSpies@aol.com) Received: from SNSpies@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d17.3415ebd8 (30738) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: SNSpies@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:33:42 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 4509cbbf-ec86-4a85-b069-337f40a27f30 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C17BA9.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:34:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this 1993 exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to recreate extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are taken from a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I actually see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic Norman garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm attempting to be the real thing." _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the exhibition catalogue.) I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition as the question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as documentation. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL Kingdom of Atlantia "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 September 1960 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 5 15:14:54 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85JEpHf009122 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:14:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m85JEj7L006686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:14:49 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85JDVJt056569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:13:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85JDTWF095057; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:13:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.collierfam.com (collierfam.com [216.65.44.63]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85JDQlS094979 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:13:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sharon@collierfam.com) Received: from bobfamilyroom [216.65.44.63] by mail.collierfam.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A41D601B0266; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:10:21 +0000 From: "Sharon Collier" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:13:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1E86B746A8284D399B275D5D20533D3F@bobfamilyroom> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckPhZawXOur3eWqSRWHrRe+Yz52QAABV5vQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-CommKal-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude for spam and viruses. X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 91bf78b4-8c7a-45d6-a093-66102a59632d X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C18525.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:14:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Not "Celtic knotwork", I'd say instead "Italian strapwork" (but whether or not it was period, I've no idea.) Was this for the Palio horserace, maybe? -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of SNSpies@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:34 AM To: h-costume@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this 1993 exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to recreate extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are taken from a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I actually see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic Norman garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm attempting to be the real thing." _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the exhibition catalogue.) I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition as the question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as documentation. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL Kingdom of Atlantia "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 September 1960 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 5 15:42:23 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85JgMHu011202 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:42:22 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m85JgGqZ026724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:42:20 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85Jfp8m059304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:41:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85JfpXU021779; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:41:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.145]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m85JfmaP021658 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:41:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from morrghan92@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61571 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2008 19:41:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=X2PDjhzx76hlOPhltGeOddO2VGG/LW8URKMfHnmKHvntBKVLzH9p+/taFnrvI/tGyPHYzQzy3wBXHurTNmLuVlStZkdLW8/0piuKP5qF5kjFgbNblLrrVjo//5p8uHJBB5kzfBBN92acESoHvPYBq69F62BHeXV50A4Q3poAy8c=; X-YMail-OSG: nqWixw4VM1mCtgDJ6jp3MHN8oGyBZ1HBspPWuE_q96XcXvIbSfrbT08zd5sN4a7ccYflnZjAgFk5C93aXfkMfzvO__EyBq2RMEzq_DP1hij2ptf14O1xNdFMafAsqvUDhdMz2sxOzIAUW3yHn322lF5z Received: from [64.5.15.171] by web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:41:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:41:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Sara Snellings To: Historical Costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <111379.59830.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 98000c61-6b31-4566-a210-aacc1535ce7f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C18B98.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: O The 12th century garb yahoogroup had a great discussion on these last November (11/27/07 message #12547). The costumes were designed for the parade and celebrations surrounding the annual horse race in Legnano, Italy honoring a 12th Century victory. Morrghan ----- Original Message ---- From: Sharon Collier To: Historical Costume Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 12:13:14 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" Not "Celtic knotwork", I'd say instead "Italian strapwork" (but whether or not it was period, I've no idea.) Was this for the Palio horserace, maybe? -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of SNSpies@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:34 AM To: h-costume@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this 1993 exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to recreate extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are taken from a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I actually see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic Norman garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm attempting to be the real thing." _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the exhibition catalogue.) I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition as the question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as documentation. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL Kingdom of Atlantia "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 September 1960 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 5 17:49:02 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85Lmu9x018370 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:48:56 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m85LmmAe032468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:48:52 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85Lm8Rg092437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:48:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85Lm3U3076075; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:48:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.collierfam.com (collierfam.com [216.65.44.63]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85Lm0GZ076028 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:48:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sharon@collierfam.com) Received: from bobfamilyroom [216.65.44.63] by mail.collierfam.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A85457B001E0; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:44:52 +0000 From: "Sharon Collier" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:47:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4D8CB618DCDE4FE8B076C67F158700B7@bobfamilyroom> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AckPhZawXOur3eWqSRWHrRe+Yz52QAAGkqSw X-CommKal-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude for spam and viruses. X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7224b3ac-cefa-4207-98c2-013858442248 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C1A940.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:48:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: O There is also a "Palio" horserace in Sienna, Italy. Done in early renaissance style. It is held in the central town piazza. -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of SNSpies@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:34 AM To: h-costume@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del Palio" Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this 1993 exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to recreate extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are taken from a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I actually see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic Norman garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm attempting to be the real thing." _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the exhibition catalogue.) I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition as the question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as documentation. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL Kingdom of Atlantia "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 September 1960 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:18:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: O Thank you for this information. My grandmother was one of the exiled nobility and she had a millinery shop first in Constantinople and then Paris. I have ordered a copy. Anne -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Heather Vaughan Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:11 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Fashion Designers There is a wonderful book on Russian designers in Paris, called Beauty in Exile ( http://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Exile-Nobility-Revolution-Influenced/dp/0810957 019 ) Also, Natacha Rambova (mostly a film costume designer) designed fashion briefly and was the focus of my masters these (details at www.fashionhistorian.net). Please also note that Greeenwood press will have a new encyclopedia of fashion history out in October that covers this time period in detail (I co-authored the 1920s and 1930s sections): http://www.amazon.com/Greenwood-Encyclopedia-Clothing-through-American/dp/03 13358559/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220638191&sr=1-3 -- Heather A. 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Maybe this will help http://www.virtue.to/articles/extant.html -----Original Message----- Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this 1993 exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to recreate extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are taken from a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I actually see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic Norman garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm attempting to be the real thing." _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the exhibition catalogue.) I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition as the question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as documentation. Nancy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 6 15:22:01 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m86JM1sm018500 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:22:01 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m86JLtav024102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:21:59 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m86JLX4G074985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:21:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m86JLU4h091245; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:21:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com [66.196.100.183]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m86JLQtY091162 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:21:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from carolscostuming5@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89825 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2008 19:21:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AR1Oouxq5BwOWtRA01T5hyzfs1Naid+iS37L+LOavPbQYMFZBc0w1HJnTPSS9JS61KytORZLdUGWO4r991lsgeJppm91Tt9GmQwvZ9vwPg9YX71gKoONWagZd10RKdxclmqYM8zdsXt6T8ewjBuE54figd5wL74XrtdOwwecfSg=; X-YMail-OSG: TDIZ6kUVM1lXlt2KnNhU8OjRaMeBP5KmFJHeVW04DJucHV2cvjGzSIBdWIprGbQyS_ObRVu9nx9Jsxpqy8gWOwJZJ5sA2DNG1jJv6qkS4M23hY325XygQ1lEqgMcNI1.6DE- Received: from [66.99.1.205] by web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:21:21 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Mitchell To: h-costume@indra.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <339029.89517.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Problems printing digest X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 65814a0f-f490-424d-b10c-d95e0003978e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C2D853.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:21:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I'm curious about whether others have this problem. I see a digest with 19k and 4 messages. I click print preview and end up with 22 plus pages. If I'm crazy enough to print it, I get 22 pages, each with 1 line of printing.Carol _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 6 16:16:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m86KGqdx022034 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:16:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m86KGkMR016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:16:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m86KGQe2079240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:16:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m86KGQ50023351; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:16:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m86KGMTF023236 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:16:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470313A115 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48C2F301.3020206@reddawn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:15:45 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <339029.89517.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <339029.89517.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Problems printing digest X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 434f69ef-8c5e-4353-ae23-46a5267c51fd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C2E52F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 7 12:40:19 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m87GeIvJ014665 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:40:19 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m87GeDwA003963 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:40:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m87GdeXt053749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:39:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87GdZII002447; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:39:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtpauth.cybermesa.com (smtpauth.cybermesa.com [65.19.4.28]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87GdW5h002411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:39:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sovagris@cybermesa.com) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (75-162-17-184.desm.qwest.net [75.162.17.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpauth.cybermesa.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m87GdUpC012657 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:39:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Suzanne Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 11:39:29 -0500 To: h-costume@indra.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/8181/Sun Sep 7 04:33:55 2008 on smtpauth.cybermesa.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] knotwork/strapwork [was "Mostra dei Costumi...] X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e4fcd688-ae3f-45ea-bbe3-f1f3347a36e1 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C403ED.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:40:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Period, yes, and not necessarily just "Celtic" or "Italian" [those being our terms and not what the artists might've called themselves]. I'm currently working my way through a large book, "Croatia in the early Middle Ages: a cultural survey," (1999, ISBN 0-85667-499-0) and have seen several examples of this decorative style -- in stone, from the 8th to 11th centuries. The book illustrations show pieces from the collections of museums in Zadar and Split, on the Dalmatian coast. http://www.zadar.hr/English/Zupanija/Muzeji.aspx http://www.amzd.hr/index.php?lang=english http://www.mdc.hr/split-arheoloski/eng/index.html Based on what I've learned so far, I'd say that these are indeed Croatian works of art and not just imports from cities in Italy. The book is amazing, though sadly lacking in costume content. :-) Suzanne On Sep 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, h-costume-request@indra.com wrote: > > From: "Sharon Collier" > Date: September 5, 2008 2:13:14 PM CDT > .... > > Not "Celtic knotwork", I'd say instead "Italian strapwork" (but > whether or > not it was period, I've no idea.) Was this for the Palio horserace, > maybe? > > -----Original Message----- > .... > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:34 AM > To: h-costume@indra.com > Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del > Palio" > > Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this > 1993 > exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? > > Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to > recreate > extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are > taken from > a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I > actually > see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic > Norman > garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, > except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm > attempting to be > the real thing." > > _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ > (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) > > (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the > exhibition catalogue.) > > I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition > as the > question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as > documentation. > > Nancy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 7 16:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m87K2Sfs025082 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:02:28 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m87K2NPj010105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:02:26 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m87K1mdk069468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:01:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87K1koS065610; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:01:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87K1gUl065521 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:01:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lilinah@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=GNcHB850DeFDC6dZq2xwptSQI22ocmI+9ddO2CZVYG2iTzkv3ppOmrA4tCt1Ji9S; h=Received:Mime-Version:X-Sender:Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [4.243.103.247] by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KcQRz-0005iQ-Rs for h-costume@mail.indra.com; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:01:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lilinah@earthlink.net@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:01:20 -0700 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com From: Lilinah X-ELNK-Trace: 26084e7e73656b25d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f521b720ae0b9f0be8350f2e19cb8569299350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.103.247 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 27b884aa-60f5-431b-aa89-921d994c2838 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C4334F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:02:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Most commercial bras never fit me properly. So I'm picking up what looks like a really good book on making brassieres, "Making Beautiful Bras" by Lee-Ann Burgess. This book is Australian, and i'm not sure if it lists sources for supplies in the US - i won't have it until Tuesday to double check. So i'm asking for suggestions here, since it's the only clothing oriented list i'm on. Also, if anyone knows of a legitimate list for making women's under things, i'd welcome the information. Thanks, Anahita _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 7 16:07:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m87K7AmN025323 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:07:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m87K72QW013322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:07:06 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m87K6ldl069704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:06:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87K6lXU068766; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:06:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.145]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87K6i38068666 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:06:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W13 ([65.54.161.113]) by bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:06:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.168.192] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:06:39 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2008 20:06:39.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D07E700:01C91125] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e32d729b-2fb8-4480-b671-eba5b5909311 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C43466.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:07:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO There's at least one yahoo group specifically for this: "Custom Bras", started by Don McGunn, who is also the author of a couple books on making clothing to fit. He is a very savvy and funny fellow who I am convinced is really out to help women get the best fit for their body type. Good luck, Laurie > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:01:20 -0700> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com> From: lilinah@earthlink.net> Subject: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies> > Most commercial bras never fit me properly. So I'm picking up what > looks like a really good book on making brassieres, "Making Beautiful > Bras" by Lee-Ann Burgess.> > This book is Australian, and i'm not sure if it lists sources for > supplies in the US - i won't have it until Tuesday to double check. > So i'm asking for suggestions here, since it's the only clothing > oriented list i'm on.> > Also, if anyone knows of a legitimate list for making women's under > things, i'd welcome the information.> > Thanks,> Anahita> _______________________________________________> h-costume mailing list> h-costume@mail.indra.com> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 7 16:18:19 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m87KIJEv026015 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:18:19 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m87KIDft017538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:18:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m87KHt3n070418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:17:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87KHton076263; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:17:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m87KHqDT076170 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:17:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from de_arundel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Bvck1a0010xGWP856wHnmG; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:17:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([76.19.207.148]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BwHl1a00S3CeKh03YwHmox; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:17:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Z_rYVp-iAAAA:8 a=vyfM4bikAAAA:8 a=KetaXpe7ALylMGpN8_YA:9 a=yrXNdzQu1jVIJhduM9cU94Q4-nEA:4 a=kJVaTwQnZmMA:10 Message-ID: <48C436D1.4000306@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:17:21 -0400 From: Stacy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a5551c2d-089d-431f-9cba-2c3ca2635606 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C43705.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:18:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Anahita, http://www.bramakingsupplies.com/ likely has everything you 'll need, I've ordered from their sister shop corset making supplies without any problems. I don't know of any lists, but a search of yahoo might reveal one. Stacy Lilinah wrote: > Most commercial bras never fit me properly. So I'm picking up what > looks like a really good book on making brassieres, "Making Beautiful > Bras" by Lee-Ann Burgess. > > This book is Australian, and i'm not sure if it lists sources for > supplies in the US - i won't have it until Tuesday to double check. So > i'm asking for suggestions here, since it's the only clothing oriented > list i'm on. > > Also, if anyone knows of a legitimate list for making women's under > things, i'd welcome the information. > > Thanks, > Anahita > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 8 14:22:42 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m88IMfM0028226 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:22:41 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m88IMXeV002704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:22:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m88IM9dv073870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:22:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m88IM5Ae073238; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:22:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m88IM2R3073097 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:22:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from MaddNancy@aol.com) Received: from MaddNancy@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d0d.392f9189 (48552) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: MaddNancy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:22:01 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5377 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7dc98d14-5b7d-4b54-bb61-e489b1edf9a5 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C56D6A.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:22:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I went to an American Sewing Guild meeting two weeks ago where several ladies presented their experiences from attending bra-making workshops. One of them had the Beverly Johnson book (shown at _http://www.bramakingsupplies.com_ (http://www.bramakingsupplies.com) ), and it looked quite good. I'm hoping we'll have a workshop here in the next year. Nancy **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 8 14:25:02 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m88IP2Md028404 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:25:02 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m88IOu1w004790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:25:00 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m88IOgwG074081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:24:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m88IOgSb076055; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:24:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m88IOdbF076002 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:24:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from athurman@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c48so1662586wra.23 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=sO/9f2j7Vfu6P3r2g10RDeHGNHPfmLHVHe5Rdl8OB/A=; b=Qn9fZgaUtHFeLQp15SGNHBEw/HMScTPo5qDPph1V9eoDnaERxOT3E4TjtUsPs4l9cJ 35LdJB19NwCmsj4+tklKPdbPmvkwfB7vkA/4LMZXrzrRl//Z3orgMRVSS0Jstd6oilJL zJSobkc0q/BburB4iUXl5O76aHzaW98gQ2l1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FaALaUtRVzRHAR2Jl5ZVbLLA83faL+bmj7NJjfxwRFfiQ0DiQJdnPzI6218U/5EH6R giW7MeIcRIZBPxOMgEGwM46GvNcDY3R4Gr5QaDCJl+hTLULtn1K7JHegeZQJbEgH34VH AZmc5iLhLMtmhW1hGB6G43dH9OAaOlOwVZycM= Received: by 10.90.69.7 with SMTP id r7mr19614750aga.16.1220898278728; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.117.16 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d21ac190809081124j77f2265bo632e9feec748d001@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:24:38 -0400 From: "A. Thurman" To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 732355bd-8a1f-43f0-a432-c1bc172d821a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C56DF8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:25:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I've had good luck with sewsassy.com in the past. Allison T. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:01:20 -0700 > From: Lilinah > Subject: [h-cost] Brassiere supplies > To: h-costume@mail.indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Most commercial bras never fit me properly. So I'm picking up what > looks like a really good book on making brassieres, "Making Beautiful > Bras" by Lee-Ann Burgess. > > This book is Australian, and i'm not sure if it lists sources for > supplies in the US - i won't have it until Tuesday to double check. > So i'm asking for suggestions here, since it's the only clothing > oriented list i'm on. > > Also, if anyone knows of a legitimate list for making women's under > things, i'd welcome the information. > > Thanks, > Anahita > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 8 14:48:50 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m88ImoCa030024 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:48:50 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m88Imh3r018142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:48:47 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m88ImQXb076221 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:48:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m88ImPiR002353; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:48:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web63705.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63705.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.90]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m88ImMnf002237 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:48:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from hippy_dippy_dancer@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36541 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2008 18:48:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=qCNkg4xi1IK2e/lYOB8gvq8U1SHy+6BsibEWWiOHdwEGmMCK8nK6wCTSncmZXZfW9GrZI6GOiGttBsS+I9pFejJYXwtMHLq8ncAXvzvvTaOU/TgCtLtXZGNh1lR/4j4zuicfi9WdNRvsjxO4foNiTf7ExqrAxZ4qhNODNN8MYx8=; X-YMail-OSG: 5yUzLt8VM1m9xdfNY4zl_owYQMKKdmh_yI2CdgdD.LtYLrs8jplqkkmspxCcLiV5fjYB4VkQvpTjiKWoLdUhLjf5k.4sf_iKmgDn9w1tTorbiHthToKkAnb2Q17Y6rI- Received: from [76.182.54.63] by web63705.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:48:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bambi TBNL To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <369087.36008.qm@web63705.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] knotwork/strapwork [was "Mostra dei Costumi...] X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 46a51a26-cf37-4956-b09e-0d09af9eb878 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C5738C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:48:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Just an observation, the ethiopian religious artifact I have observed are also decorated with wh= at=A0 celtic enthusiast friend of mine insist is celticc knotwork...the onl= y thing is...it si definitelyEthoipian and old....Tres old...ya mihg wann i= nvestigate that. Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride!!!! Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 900ad (please correct me if i have the date wrong!) --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Suzanne wrote: From: Suzanne Subject: Re: [h-cost] knotwork/strapwork [was "Mostra dei Costumi...] To: h-costume@indra.com Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 12:39 PM Period, yes, and not necessarily just "Celtic" or "Italian" [those = being our terms and not what the artists might've called = themselves]. I'm currently working my way through a large book, = "Croatia in the early Middle Ages: a cultural survey," (1999, ISBN = 0-85667-499-0) and have seen several examples of this decorative = style -- in stone, from the 8th to 11th centuries. The book = illustrations show pieces from the collections of museums in Zadar = and Split, on the Dalmatian coast. http://www.zadar.hr/English/Zupanija/Muzeji.aspx http://www.amzd.hr/index.php?lang=3Denglish http://www.mdc.hr/split-arheoloski/eng/index.html Based on what I've learned so far, I'd say that these are indeed = Croatian works of art and not just imports from cities in Italy. The = book is amazing, though sadly lacking in costume content. :-) Suzanne On Sep 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, h-costume-request@indra.com wrote: > > From: "Sharon Collier" > Date: September 5, 2008 2:13:14 PM CDT > .... > > Not "Celtic knotwork", I'd say instead "Italian strapwork" (but = > whether or > not it was period, I've no idea.) Was this for the Palio horserace, = > maybe? > > -----Original Message----- > .... > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:34 AM > To: h-costume@indra.com > Subject: [h-cost] "Mostra dei Costumi delle Armi e Degli Ornamenti del > Palio" > > Does anyone have any information, background or technical, on this = > 1993 > exhibit of costume held in Legnano, Italy? > > Looking at the pictures, I can not think that they were trying to = > recreate > extant or known-from-MSS garb as the sources for the designs are = > taken from > a variety of Byzantine, Anglo-Saxon, southern Italian (and did I = > actually > see some Celtic knotwork?!) sources placed on a ground of basic = > Norman > garb. I am knee-deep in research on this time and place, and nothing, > except Roger's mantle, of course, leaps out and says "I'm = > attempting to be > the real thing." > > _Odisseus / Ulysses Gallery_ > (http://ranaan.altervista.org/html/SCA-Gallery.htm) > > (The pictures on this page are taken, without attribution, from the > exhibition catalogue.) > > I would very much like to know the purpose behind this exhibition = > as the > question comes up frequently enough about the use of these costumes as > documentation. > > Nancy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume = _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 14:47:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89Ilf3N004303 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:47:41 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89IlXTq027096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:47:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89IajgH097838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:36:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89Iaf25081990; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:36:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89Iad73081874 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:36:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so11374367gxk.23 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=E75smsnLg7IuenBLriyrIPBZ9iMcMa+KP5+C2JISfM8=; b=L23WxxMHhPZjdWGLiHJsdKd4YzTHRrBdzCN+k81yh/aQdYt7mQOMC58X5ZEI6hzobg igIpjudpPYzIXyTtuFFLGjhyVXt7NhHyoUgrwackkF/HaqPc/N3uHGRm6BZKgOOwEboA L9tocMMTDZ8Sy53o76/n95n7ySCBq+64BbXgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pKpigo6dYaSHYl8ezyRLIC77o2YYAHPPgwbyKIM6AX50G5NV4LM/lGDMCY6dAgTqjA 4KjVEn8ATgjW5c5pn9G+Diws8vfk8JOgdeObesP2ogijSitpZKNNlwV/DbuHh2U8f2ZX wfIVbk3cGHCIvdlflv2qMMFrM5OoXQz1UYiQ4= Received: by 10.90.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr112907aga.17.1220985393722; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:36:33 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e7a8a117-4c10-4721-925b-90855a27f21e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C6C4C5.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:47:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I have a skirt i put together, one silk of duponi and the second of a duchess satin, both silk. How to I get wrinkles out of these fabrics? The duchess satin is very wrinkled from it's time in storage between purchase and use (several years, I'm sad to say) and yes, there's crease marks on the duponi as well, though not as many. I've tried lightly pressing, but it had little to no effect. The skirt is three panels of fabric, floor length, (more in one panel for a train) and pleated to a waistband. I plan to attach a velvet guard to the front side openings and along the hem after beading and/or couching of much gold cord. I'm hoping that will weight it down and tame the wrinkles at the very least, but what can I do in the mean time? Dampen and toss in warm dryer? Press with a higher heat? Use Steam with higher heat? obviously I don't want to ruin the fabric and I definitely don't want to lose the crispness of the duponi. what should I do? alex -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 14:55:32 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89ItWq3005008 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:55:32 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89ItQvq019236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:55:30 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89It3Er001177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:55:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89It36I002750; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:55:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89It0uM002581 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:55:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F613A628 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:54:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48C6D46E.9000501@reddawn.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:54:22 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 4e2f2430-1a1f-4a3a-8d10-8ad143ca16ac X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C6C69F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > > Dampen and toss in warm dryer? Press with a higher heat? Use Steam > with higher heat? obviously I don't want to ruin the fabric and I > definitely don't want to lose the crispness of the duponi. > Don't do the damp and dryer thing, that will just make it worse and you will lose crispness. I have good luck with a little steam, it doesn't have to be super hot. I use a lot of dupioni remnants for linings and they are always wrinkled. If you can press on the wrinkles with the creases pointing up, like this ^ it's better than pressing them the other way. If you have a small bathroom and can get it really steamy, you might try just hanging the skirt and seeing what will fall out of it that way. Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 15:59:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89JxAwT009999 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:59:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89Jx2fZ003410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:59:08 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89JwbTr008496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:58:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89JwY61073710; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:58:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m11.mail.aol.com (imo-m11.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.99]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89JwVVx073557 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:58:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.bc7.2fe12104 (30737) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:58:21 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3edb7d0a-885b-4cbf-be3d-d5fa47e5f513 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C6D586.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I've never had any prob with pressing the fabrics directly with the iron on a "silk" setting with steam. We pressed tons of silk with a professional steam iron on its linen setting on "Last of the Mohicans". You can always ask the dry cleaners to press it. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 16:08:48 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89K8l9o010575 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:08:48 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89K8gHs003840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:08:46 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89K8SGI009233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89K8SRk083500; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from cgp.netins.net (f1phy.netins.net [167.142.228.65]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89K8O5e083421 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:08:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from landofoz@netins.net) X-netINS-MPP: scanned Received: from [67.55.167.47] (account landofoz@netins.net HELO denise8541f2db) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 1794959853 for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: <048501c912b7$d7212ac0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> From: "Land of Oz" To: "Historical Costume" References: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:08:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c0f89727-1aff-4ebd-80fe-1850e16e7457 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C6D7CA.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:08:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I find using a hot iron on silk makes wrinkles disappear in no time and preserves (or even enhances) the crisp hand. Try it on a scrap if you can. Just be careful not to scortch, of course. If there is anything printed or embroidered on the fabric, be sure to test that as well! Denise B _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 16:30:58 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89KUtuC011751 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89KUnc9031768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:53 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89KUKQj011400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:30:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89KUKlO007763; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:30:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89KUG9i007703 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:30:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-24-125-68-36.hsd1.va.comcast.net [24.125.68.36]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1Kd9qo2aEW-0005su; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:30:16 -0400 Message-ID: <198B0A74B27241E19E546AB30C8B97FB@momlaptop> From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "h-costume" References: <126549.29232.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+nOiHptA5yGdOr4fg0gkt6yo+TnvIQwCcz+6y yUBfd2DcoxhFoZvvYQU6KNvF2l08UZjAt328gXEiq/mhydz+Ky jELsYpsoRVG9DMl2v/b1w== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designers questions X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e17882f2-c06a-46d6-aea7-a5dd1f7966a8 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C6DCF9.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeslideshows.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 19:08:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89N8L8D020312 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:08:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89N8BcP007863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:08:14 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89N7frp025377 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:07:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89N7bYA063644; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:07:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89N7ZXB063545 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:07:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so12149675gxk.23 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=W8JOz4UMJ7bm+KqX9dxMbgqVz5uhXrHQmK13QD0Nh7g=; b=FnNzInsby4clYLoSTPh4cEurwbkfeLOvPJJAa+kckpiKJIjSpE99JuGyOeN/GGlBeL +8afVVY4ve5mo4J32+/bWGu8Yruh6NDeNyFUEZtJvX+gzLhQ/NI+egROuHhgZMDRCPuk dg2mmCxiPcFI17OEPkTb2GZqjhB6O7pZDFdHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pQUwXJy2dgEz9l5qc9PD+fAshGQ0+auxL21PUTN3xb1phzpK7+HxYf8qR6KV3yIHN+ U+nK3XV6dmUSagxQPV9O4pHCl3XufG5mMHlE3lWlgHUYB8K1MAXtet8bs6+UrKsjUHDl auUIIfgoWYsiXJeEhZ+xUcurMq/SHMBRyvB00= Received: by 10.90.106.6 with SMTP id e6mr442529agc.31.1221001650575; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809091607y9e0ad8dmed9be29e7490ddda@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:07:30 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <048501c912b7$d7212ac0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> <048501c912b7$d7212ac0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 85f8e3d1-7e37-43cc-88bc-974f78525607 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C701DB.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:08:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I had tried pressing with a light mist at a notch or two higher on the iron than the silk setting, without good results. The duponi is a red and black shot and the duschess is black, so no embroidery on it (yet) that I have to worry about. thanks alex On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Land of Oz wrote: > I find using a hot iron on silk makes wrinkles disappear in no time and > preserves (or even enhances) the crisp hand. Try it on a scrap if you can. > Just be careful not to scortch, of course. > > If there is anything printed or embroidered on the fabric, be sure to test > that as well! > > Denise B > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 19:32:12 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89NWCpb021265 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:32:12 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89NW7tT009856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:32:10 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89NVnKw026950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:31:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89NVmIu082254; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:31:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89NViPW082121 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:31:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d1d.32c7c11b (14501) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:31:29 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:31:29 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 513ca118-ee75-417f-8711-271821fb2cd0 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C70777.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:32:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/9/2008 7:08:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, garbaholic@gmail.com writes: had tried pressing with a light mist at a notch or two higher on the iron than the silk setting, without good results. ************* Crank it up to Linen/Cotton, and use full steam. Just avoid any real drops of water, especially on the satin. Also, you can do a spritz of spray starch on the Dup to enhance the crispness. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? 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(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 19:34:55 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89NYt9k021383 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:34:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89NYmrn031341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:34:53 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89NYELm027068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:34:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89NYEGd084083; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:34:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m89NYB0G083982 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:34:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.c3a.42ab3e0b (14501) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:34:00 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ed4ad339-6139-48e4-9291-a9422cd950d5 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C70818.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:34:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/9/2008 7:32:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, AlbertCat@aol.com writes: In a message dated 9/9/2008 7:08:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, garbaholic@gmail.com writes: had tried pressing with a light mist at a notch or two higher on the iron than the silk setting, without good results. ************* Crank it up to Linen/Cotton, and use full steam. Just avoid any real drops of water, especially on the satin. Also, you can do a spritz of spray starch on the Dup to enhance the crispness. *********** I forgot....iron from the wrong side. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 21:14:39 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A1EdLo024488 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:14:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A1EWQV024677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:14:36 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A1E9op033698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:14:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A1E7ZL052737; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:14:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from grelber.thyrsus.com (static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.243.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A1E4Pl052699 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:14:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cathy@thyrsus.com) Received: from minx.thyrsus.com (minx.thyrsus.com [192.168.1.21]) by grelber.thyrsus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A09F064A for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine Olanich Raymond To: Historical Costume Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:22:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809092122.06051.cathy@thyrsus.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7f2d43ab-89ff-42a8-9341-eb26695076de X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C71F78.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:14:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Tuesday 09 September 2008 3:58:21 pm AlbertCat@aol.com wrote: > I've never had any prob with pressing the fabrics directly with the iron on > a "silk" setting with steam. We pressed tons of silk with a professional > steam iron on its linen setting on "Last of the Mohicans". You can always > ask the dry cleaners to press it. That's what I usually do. It works great. Silk usually only wrinkles when it gets damp anyway, so dampening it to iron them out works. -- Cathy Raymond "We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand." --Randy Pausch _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 23:13:35 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A3DYg6028533 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:13:35 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A3DSGl002170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:13:33 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A3D4ao043444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:13:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A3D0DR032167; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:13:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1d.socket.net [216.106.88.68]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A3CvUT032129 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:12:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 62C8658340 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:12:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historical Costume" Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:13:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200809092122.06051.cathy@thyrsus.com> x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] side view tudor headdress X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 6f3ca409-e282-44eb-8ca3-2a0f686e2914 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C73B58.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 9 23:52:09 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A3q9xT030375 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:52:09 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A3q4hm014191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:52:07 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A3pgX9047768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:51:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A3pgiW061614; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:51:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A3pcu9061517 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:51:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.c74.3891bec0 (39332) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:51:27 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:51:26 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] side view tudor headdress X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 8e6799e6-947d-4919-9796-19026165360a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C74464.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:52:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/9/2008 11:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, otsisto@socket.net writes: http://www.marileecody.com/mary1medal.jpg Nice clear lines. De *************** Interesting. In most portraits of, say Anne Boleyn, or Catherine Howard, the "crown" part of a French Hood seems to be over the ears or in front of the ears, unlike this coin....which does have the coif over the ears but the "crown" behind them. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 10 00:42:46 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A4gka1031794 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:42:46 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A4geXZ011176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:42:44 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A4fECe050743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:41:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A4fC6k091128; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:41:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail42.atl.registeredsite.com (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1/lGHiMY1naccx3STDa/ks2sHkvmUV18ZA@mail42.atl.registeredsite.com [209.237.134.232]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A4f8rw091103 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:41:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from robin@netherton.net) Received: from mymail.myregisteredsite.com (wmailnode1d.webmail.web.com [209.237.134.169]) by mail42.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m8A4f7OZ025090 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:41:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 19962 invoked by uid 80); 10 Sep 2008 04:41:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.64?) (editor@netherton.net@68.92.251.148) by 209.237.134.178 with ESMTPA; 10 Sep 2008 04:41:07 -0000 Message-ID: <48C74FE3.9060604@netherton.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:41:07 -0500 From: Robin Netherton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] side view tudor headdress X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7c088864-0d30-47c4-a193-00e81baf5a37 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C75040.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:42:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO AlbertCat@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/9/2008 11:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > otsisto@socket.net writes: > > http://www.marileecody.com/mary1medal.jpg > > Nice clear lines. > De > > > > *************** > > Interesting. > > In most portraits of, say Anne Boleyn, or Catherine Howard, the "crown" part > of a French Hood seems to be over the ears or in front of the ears, unlike > this coin....which does have the coif over the ears but the "crown" behind > them. You folks might be interested in knowing that the upcoming volume of Medieval Clothing and Textiles (due out April 2009) includes an article on French hoods, by Melanie Schuessler (who is on this list). In the article, Melanie examines artworks and written references (in inventories, letters, etc.) for evidence on the various components of the headdress and the terms that might have matched up with each part. The overall shape and other details changed over time, and the terminology is a real maze as well. This medal is one of the images Melanie discusses. Her analysis is much too detailed to describe here (and really requires that you read the whole article) so I won't try to summarize it, but I'd encourage anyone interested in this headdress to read the article when it appears. --Robin (editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 10 02:39:12 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A6dACx018812 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:11 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A6d4Ed028248 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:07 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A6cZ1h057828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:38:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A6cWNw057947; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:38:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au (flexo.grapevine.net.au [203.129.32.140]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A6cSgB057881 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:38:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ewalpole@grapevine.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AAB580841 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:38:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flexo.grapevine.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mmnCde2SqDzf for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:38:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from OfflinePC (ppp-157.48.129.203.grapevine.net.au [203.129.48.157]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B5558087A for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:38:23 +1000 (EST) From: "Elizabeth Walpole" To: "'Historical Costume'" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:38:16 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 Thread-Index: AckS80Fh46jImlsPR16ZQkkWWIwGWgAG/hdg Message-Id: <20080910063823.E0B5558087A@flexo.grapevine.net.au> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] side view tudor headdress X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2a7486fb-5e7b-4638-a00e-cc38f36af955 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C76B88.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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De _______________________________________________ For even better 3 dimensional images of Tudor era headwear have you looked at http://www.tudoreffigies.co.uk/ many of these are painted which helps even more to distinguish details Elizabeth ------------------------------- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 10 03:49:27 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A7nQYO031002 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:49:26 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A7nFGV027418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:49:21 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A7mjDK061062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:48:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A7mhBY094999; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:48:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A7meOb094969 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:48:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-24-125-68-36.hsd1.va.comcast.net [24.125.68.36]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KdKRL0gw8-0005LT; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:48:40 -0400 Message-ID: <8BF7CDD58D90406191386EA4E1C61CFA@momlaptop> From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "h-costume" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:48:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KLpg9DNMxCFOQpSoC5+Rfei7SmtwxEWQ+OrK 7e4Cdg3wwNE/758Ihl9Jx/+dn2uouZ+T2Wi4G9c40Wcg1qmnqx LggQXfpWBBGa555unsaNg== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Hedda Hopper Hats and prediction of fashions in 2000 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1bba1da8-efe2-4160-b49e-6823b2ecc087 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C77BFB.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:49:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I saw Hedda Hopper on the old gameshow "What's My Line." The female panelists commented that she was known for her hats. I was unfamiliar with Hedda so I did a search and came up with this webpage: http://hubpages.com/hub/Hedda-Hopper-Hats The page had more to offer...scroll down to the last video and watch it. The film is a prediction for fashions in the year 2000. Make sure to have your sound on. How do you find out the URL for embedded YouTube video? Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeslideshows.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 10 04:09:57 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8A89umS032480 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:09:56 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8A89pCP027641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:09:54 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8A89TK6062334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:09:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A89TXU006042; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:09:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8A89P9F006012 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:09:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-24-125-68-36.hsd1.va.comcast.net [24.125.68.36]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KdKlP39x6-0005jh; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:09:25 -0400 Message-ID: <5C9B996FDE54488DA11EF7A021E9A55F@momlaptop> From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "Historical Costume" References: <8BF7CDD58D90406191386EA4E1C61CFA@momlaptop> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:09:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX199zvXMH7mMesUI9uiJT/Ofvn4KXQP+3XFfpJP 68LWTjtTAax/ZwjD2KJ6IH1PXuNOoWDaechuV6sa9i27yS/YKZ J6w1cHJ2UanGmgNVGPISA== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hedda Hopper Hats and prediction of fashions in 2000 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a6f8a025-32ae-42c5-9ab8-b125d9cd9127 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C780CF.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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She is in the video wearing a crazy hat. http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/2612/A_Hat_for_Hedda_Hopper_____Spike_Jones_and_His_City_Slickers/ Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeslideshows.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 10 15:43:00 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8AJh05e022002 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:43:00 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8AJgrpS003817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:42:58 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8AJgUcr024147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:42:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8AJgPjm020076; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:42:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8AJgKQa019778 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:42:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from marthakelly@nyc.rr.com) Received: from MarthaPC ([67.243.144.197]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080910194214.UXMV20228.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@MarthaPC> for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:42:14 +0000 From: "Martha Kelly" To: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: <005e01c9137d$512e0520$f38a0f60$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckTfVEL2lOUQVxcT7y0KfKPgFx1/w== Content-Language: en-us X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Re. wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7096952d-3e57-4e20-be63-4ef5569e2cb2 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C8233D.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Martha _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 11:52:35 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BFqXss030222 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:52:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BFqPcj006548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:52:29 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BFpxUO030448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:51:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BFptC4068311; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:51:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BFpqUV068178 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:51:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from madlystitching@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=J5uKsW7bFAH/3FJ605ILMZXzBVJHRY0LSSa1BNLPrCeQfGXg233s5V7e1ItcXIUr; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from c-24-10-15-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([24.10.15.192] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KdoSR-00065r-45 for h-costume@indra.com; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:49:09 -0700 From: Stephen Bergdahl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <000501c7f9e6$dc412680$be14a150@CPQ21932199711> In-Reply-To: <000501c7f9e6$dc412680$be14a150@CPQ21932199711> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080911-0, 09/11/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ELNK-Trace: 08dba192340bde6e1a6ab3b9b70940f894f5150ab1c16ac0eafd45f126befae2293dc80a53b70ca7eb4bb0820ac29f28350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.10.15.192 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 6366d407-fb8e-49af-9adf-adc9cd47b7d3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C93EB9.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:52:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 12:06:11 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BG6B7v030649 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:06:11 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BG62kl012009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:06:06 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BG5acn032766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:05:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BG5asY085135; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:05:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wm-imp-2.unl.edu (wm-imp-2.unl.edu [129.93.2.91]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BG5Wgn085056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:05:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from 00217146@bigred.unl.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wm-imp-2.unl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BG5WXt019819 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:32 -0500 Received: from pcp078162pcs.unl.edu (pcp078162pcs.unl.edu [129.93.149.79]) by wm-imp-2.unl.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:32 -0500 Message-ID: <20080911110532.yhrjdqz7ok84884k@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:32 -0500 From: 00217146@bigred.unl.edu To: Historical Costume References: <000501c7f9e6$dc412680$be14a150@CPQ21932199711> <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="Yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0efcd914-1669-4c33-9eea-9e5cda025bf7 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C941EA.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:06:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I > don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up > with ideas. I've been seeing everything through a steampunk lens these days, and I've been really digging Firefly, so my first thought was Chinese-inspired space pirate. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 12:13:38 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BGDcuL030897 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:38 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BGDUHx011636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:36 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BGCxNc033385 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:12:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BGCxLQ093471; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:12:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BGCuSG093337 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:12:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ruthanneb@mindspring.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=l0bb5CfH9mrZXOhkpYbAiOvsEBqdVrGcb19sputrLLfV+KulckLZKAdtiKRVqCMg; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [4.245.146.21] by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kdomo-0002aZ-JA for h-costume@indra.com; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:12:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> References: <000501c7f9e6$dc412680$be14a150@CPQ21932199711> <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> Message-Id: From: Ruth Anne Baumgartner Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:30 -0400 To: Historical Costume X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 3ad22d0308f02f3c21b586f7ff62647d40683398e744b8a475301b64121a17307c24a9fee203e6e3548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.245.146.21 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3e6fd169-3586-47ee-8d4f-2beace8d5d25 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C943AA.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Why not celebrate the small letter and do Chinese Emperor? Their robes were flowing and gorgeous, and I believe wide-shouldered? (Top of my head without looking at any pictures, so forgive any false memory....) Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Bergdahl wrote: > Help! > > I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure > out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk > brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting > to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the > 1980's a period. > > I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be > very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other > trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a > waist to match, most of it up front. > > So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I > don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come > up with ideas. > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 13:15:48 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BHFmJo032545 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:48 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BHFgUQ023842 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:46 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BHF7K3041722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:15:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BHF56f067319; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:15:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.33]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8BHF0Dm067120 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:15:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tania_gr17@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8529 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2008 17:14:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=K5qEeaB4ONi201kZupAE67XwRoRtZucrxHcrn6szM0TaLqnx6QWxd+yf4JGE1lLSi357hKrVHP8dQWbQimtZyh0Vimtp4IOw8HknDdhSWQsSOmFkSKYtadFRiC2ifgIn4Dy1y8VHthHl5GKoGux32hyJISVrB4279gRk4b8RwsI=; X-YMail-OSG: sYUE.L8VM1muv5jEw__Kh_JWXxv4GXWKrJhAA4Mrlwc0i6wgFq_Hy1ygI6pnhgcqY39KKl7lqSkPU.XYCM7FAMltRJRBxzT64TZDLu0QZ2O5QeULeWFYsgR.72yyQ_n8jdanVCayGOknu9ktETDcx5g- Received: from [212.54.70.156] by web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:14:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tania Gruning To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <818822.8297.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3c5caffb-c217-4dc6-a87b-6d1c2f0439da X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C9523E.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO How about a kimono with hakama? Looks good on basically any bodyshape and fairly easy to sew Tania --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Stephen Bergdahl wrote: From: Stephen Bergdahl Subject: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume To: "Historical Costume" Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:49 PM Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 14:08:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BI8LNv001661 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:08:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BI8CuP022795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:08:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BI7lbv047219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:07:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BI7llX026780; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:07:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf4.socket.net (mf4b.socket.net [216.106.48.199]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BI7hsx026723 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:07:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf4.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 13893302EC for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:07:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historical Costume" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 370c26ed-4ab6-4728-9fed-fe2bc97e63f9 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C95E8C.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:08:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In line with firefly/star trek..etc. Mccall's 4745 for starting point. find a coordinating material (not a match), red might be good for the pants and take a strip of the brocade down the sides of the pants (see "D") Using "B" pattern, replace the buttons with small frogs (just on the flip side)If you choose a red for the pants,either red of gold would be good for the frogs. Length would be calf and the skirt flared to fit your stride more comfortably. a shirt with no collar and possibly a vest of the brocade so that if you get warm you can remove the jacket. Or you could use Butterick 3721. I was going to show an idea with Simplicity but I keep getting an error page for them. De -----Original Message----- Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 14:14:24 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BIEOkT001807 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:14:24 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BIECnw010662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:14:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BIDsrf047768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BIDsVc033354; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BIDmo4033150 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AnnBWass@aol.com) Received: from AnnBWass@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d16.35af9f13 (37559) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-mb03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB038-92b748c95fd1166; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:37 -0400 Received: from webmail-md12 (webmail-md12.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.130]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA031-5c5348c95fc032f; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:20 -0400 To: h-costume@indra.com Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:19 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.200.213.3 In-Reply-To: <818822.8297.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: annbwass@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 151.200.213.3 by webmail-md12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:19 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAE25134662C22-FC-13F4@webmail-md12.sysops.aol.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 78de0a14-3388-414a-901d-05591d9405a0 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C95FF4.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:14:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Or a Chinese robe?? Ann Wass -----Original Message----- From: Tania Gruning To: Historical Costume Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 1:14 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume How about a kimono with hakama? Looks good on basically any bodyshape and fairly easy to sew Tania --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Stephen Bergdahl wrote: From: Stephen Bergdahl Subject: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume To: "Historical Costume" Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:49 PM Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 14:44:22 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BIiM2u002546 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:44:22 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BIiGhc027014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:44:20 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BIhJRJ051313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BIhHtH065489; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net (njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net [66.174.76.155]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BIhC0A065274 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from deb@mantua-maker.com) Received: from MantuaMaker (smtp.vzwmail.net [66.174.76.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8BIh4G6018171 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:43:06 GMT Message-ID: <002401c9143e$3b85eb90$c904d846@MantuaMaker> From: "Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker" To: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:43:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ce27d0c5-9c70-4929-9a43-2757c48f650d X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C96701.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:44:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I agree with the earlier comments. A floor length Chinese scholar's gown with huge sleeves and wide yellow borders - what I think of as Mandarin, though I don't know why. If you think it will be cold in the hall, you can put another gown under it, rather than spoil the effect with a coat (and you can get rid of the underlayer if it turns out too warm.) Happy sewing, Deb Salisbury The Mantua-Maker Designer and creator of quality historical sewing patterns Renaissance to Victorian www.mantua-maker.com http://mantua-maker-patterns.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 15:48:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BJmLAM004448 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:48:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BJmCUe026998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:48:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BJj62B058457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:45:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BJj1Q2035013; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:45:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.96]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8BJivL3034843 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:44:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from carletta_nicolosi@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 13029 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2008 19:44:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yzxsRFsVlhILWfOeX/sc0gygcnMXE8Osnbxsrw4hMPbCHXWBqbegVyMiqHc32srjuBBRvISc65PlYxzJO2y7XKzx/gvCzQLI+tShY69LkK2XEaAomVOwCMz5wbTYXvqXmG7I3ET3esxIxMVrPNdKEaAU1nHSqgJAzf+teDjp2Yg=; X-YMail-OSG: BgWt2OkVM1naLBxxcN0b3SNP7JRr9vjpo2v1kfUHefCuQYTStXaYCy5v1TKzcmIVvgx9wR23Gk6SbJPBC1me.434KiqRmXGJN.oydc4W8qG1LYmMG3r_ezQyKAHSFbrQDYjyQG3hdoyDNLGoPc4WV5Z7 Received: from [209.19.36.161] by web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:44:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Carletta da Nicolosi To: h-costume@indra.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <187639.12767.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9d331c89-6e9e-4236-a554-9192084b72e1 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C975FC.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:48:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I agree with the idea of keeping it with the Oriental flair.=A0 Could even = make a Mongol type coat with different breeches.=A0 The fabric sounds wonde= rful even if the color is green/yellow silk.=A0 The Asians/Chinese all love= d bright colors. =A0 Carletta --- On Thu, 9/11/08, h-costume-request@indra.com wrote: From: h-costume-request@indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 332 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 1:00 PM Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-request@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re. wrinkles out of silk (Martha Kelly) 2. Help with OT Costume (Stephen Bergdahl) 3. Re: Help with OT Costume (00217146@bigred.unl.edu) 4. Re: Help with OT Costume (Ruth Anne Baumgartner) 5. Re: Help with OT Costume (Tania Gruning) A hot iron with steam - absolutely, but did anybody mention a damp press cloth? Damp, not wet. I iron the whole shebang with steam and then go back and catch resistant wrinkles with the damp cloth. = Martha Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out = what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with = a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, = but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low = light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a = tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it = up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I = don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up = with ideas. Stephen > So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I > don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up > with ideas. I've been seeing everything through a steampunk lens these days, and = I've been really digging Firefly, so my first thought was = Chinese-inspired space pirate. Why not celebrate the small letter and do Chinese Emperor? Their = robes were flowing and gorgeous, and I believe wide-shouldered? (Top = of my head without looking at any pictures, so forgive any false = memory....) Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Bergdahl wrote: > Help! > > I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure = > out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk = > brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting = > to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the = > 1980's a period. > > I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be = > very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other = > trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a = > waist to match, most of it up front. > > So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I = > don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come = > up with ideas. > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume How about a kimono with hakama? Looks good on basically any bodyshape and fairly easy to sew Tania --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Stephen Bergdahl wrote: From: Stephen Bergdahl Subject: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume To: "Historical Costume" Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:49 PM Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out = what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with = a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, = but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low = light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a = tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it = up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I = don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up = with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume = _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume = _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 16:15:36 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BKFaZM005118 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:15:36 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BKFTup026003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:15:33 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BKFDJP061763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:15:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BKFCJx065710; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:15:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BKF8C2065544 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:15:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28C313AC92 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48C98A36.4000006@reddawn.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:14:30 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <000501c7f9e6$dc412680$be14a150@CPQ21932199711> <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 30af7a97-6d45-47f5-8639-ecf375dfaaa9 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48C97C61.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:15:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Stephen Bergdahl wrote: > Help! > > I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure > out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade > with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for > year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. Drag queen? Prince of Persia? Dr Fu-Manchu? Clown suit? some kind of anime character? Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 17:57:27 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BLvRlq008280 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:57:27 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BLvIJl014368 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:57:22 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BLupAP071600 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:56:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BLun5i059661; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:56:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BLulXe059542 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:56:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so17570410gxk.23 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RESfaBT7P1WrXwMrdn8Rk6ZXqMiZ0/ZNcO6X5qsjZ5s=; b=ptZmOWadqkxAKsdMmOwGLKnWOw0hoK+lodaKgjkyeMc6VJNcQ02dI0I+FPycAX6r4i 3XlKNKE7y54u42eONlcHbsXO9N2yZkIpXOaHCnug0fE/NMHBi4Sh9exKPp4NM4ovJGoW KBlBXI5IUd0EVdtBVq5dh+BijCSl69pNaf0uQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=okCaHCJKMOkUvYo0SvX77jgrklPaYZbJvj/VqT5YzNVSZSiSr0/15OjbVPjxS3rZkK BghmfHUze+XTlzC1yCT8WAkgBCX+EtXiJcCuf2T9vwqBzYyvsvWe+swwKDXrwD+ovvfk vz9WrFGiHQME/D8d/LdD+IHhe4F5a/XqBhXqM= Received: by 10.90.49.3 with SMTP id w3mr3939995agw.33.1221170202209; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809111456k4b57bb76leb609dea2afabd07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:56:42 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <005e01c9137d$512e0520$f38a0f60$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005e01c9137d$512e0520$f38a0f60$@rr.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re. wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 098d24ce-5f06-4a88-b167-9f818da7952f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C9943E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:57:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Thanks to all that have replied. My first step is to hang the skirt in the bathroom and will try the steam process first since it's the least labor intensive, and the event I was going to display this at, has been canceled because of the incoming hurricane. Next step will be to try higher heat and more steam/damp cloth pressing. I do have a question - the iron I have doesn't steam as well as I like (aside from burping water onto my fabric - yuk) and usually when I want steam I have a small bottle of water on hand to mist. Does anyone see a problem with this? I usually get a better coverage that the iron will manage without huge wet spots. alex On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Martha Kelly wrote: > A hot iron with steam - absolutely, but did anybody mention a damp press > cloth? Damp, not wet. I iron the whole shebang with steam and then go back > and catch resistant wrinkles with the damp cloth. > > > > Martha > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 18:46:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8BMkrAi009426 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:53 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8BMkfCh019195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:48 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BMkGsX075626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:46:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BMkELI006282; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:46:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m12.mail.aol.com (imo-m12.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.100]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8BMkBSv006195 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:46:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Debloughcostumes@aol.com) Received: from Debloughcostumes@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.ca4.36545246 (33856) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Debloughcostumes@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:04 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume (00217146@bigred.unl.edu) X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a0777029-02a6-4229-9797-23506a0bbe65 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C99FD1.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 11/09/2008 19:01:40 GMT Standard Time, h-costume-request@indra.com writes: I've been seeing everything through a steampunk lens these days, and I've been really digging Firefly, so my first thought was Chinese-inspired space pirate. Oh, god, I thought more or less the same thing.... But I thought maybe with a posher twist - like the characters in the ball scene in one episode - chinese inspired noble, futuristic style... _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 20:16:20 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C0GJ0Y011590 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:16:20 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C0GDnF021678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:16:17 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C0FXCF083885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:15:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C0FV2L072648; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:15:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C0FRPS072545 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:15:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d43.22c533e2 (29678) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:15:06 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re. wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1206ed93-85cc-424e-b8fc-4302e75a7c48 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48C9B4CD.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:16:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/11/2008 5:57:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, garbaholic@gmail.com writes: has been canceled because of the incoming hurricane. ************** Ooooo...good luck with that! I just went thru Hanna...which was nothing. Ike is much bigger a deal. Be safe and prepare for him! *********************** I do have a question - the iron I have doesn't steam as well as I like (aside from burping water onto my fabric - yuk) and usually when I want steam I have a small bottle of water on hand to mist. Does anyone see a problem with this? I usually get a better coverage that the iron will manage without huge wet spots. ******************* You must avoid this or you will spot the silk. You've got to get a good iron. It's as important as good scissors and a decent sewing machine. I have a Rowenta that I got at the fabric store....Hancock's or Jo Anne's, I can't remember. It's very rarely spits on the fabric, and usually when I have put too much water in it. Iron something else before you do the silk to make sure it's not leaking water. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 21:02:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C12LQO013167 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:02:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C12GtD016480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:02:20 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C11wQB087570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:01:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C11wXD004485; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:01:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C11tWl004459 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:01:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i50so484688rne.11 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=crKACnxjIhg6JvC/vkwVGrwMuzajvzvs0ZhdFHbr9oE=; b=tiawPjBYHcY26USUH6CAjFUSdAAVCQaiWxyC8nUngN7Ew8mzmtl4GnjFwNXACRURqa RdbXvomCymZuOO2I7CNjKj1zezLR1sNRzUuSOqQNMNcb/x8GJg6+MWLJQKjWZNcdP8/5 8QKFVyCTQ6hbYgGC4mrX9TxKfwp1wf8k52GS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fNQNgnNHp1JU7cU6AyRaMaEj0sMY2sm+FpQMAJV7rudvjpgh25FpBSCCN+2pc6HhLL VtKDB/uTls0Y61ZYrZcWGGh1n2V7FjnK/tA1AXTkSdsWOzuUN0N2MSab3d7aFcTZ9qZ8 daXg7cPlGxL0cpsiqzem9cazKza1/qN1kiY8M= Received: by 10.150.51.2 with SMTP id y2mr5000996yby.243.1221181315122; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:55 -0700 From: Cin To: h-cost MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Costumes that morph X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b60a8e31-b3de-4f0f-b542-e7b4c47b5767 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C9BF98.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:02:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Some amazing costume renditions in this odd little video. I'm guessing it's a teaser for a stage show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAFI1i5FIBc The "costumes" morph as the performer sings. It must have been pretty fun to design. --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 11 23:37:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C3beSr017062 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:37:40 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C3bZIh013766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:37:38 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C3bI1V001745 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:37:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C3bF9H007411; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:37:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.22]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8C3bAPS007317 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:37:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from celticredhead2002@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93088 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Sep 2008 03:37:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YHBZIXCWA4E+EsI4VwqNEEAdYKdblexCE+AeT5OFe0Vv8FX6Qjs8TQxXndtVeIZmUwWRhVt/uDFlVWY0xN8u38OL1iVNqJrb57u0IqFLJ1o43qtAdZie7vRcZgQtReE9cu3dl1iVP/I+R2DohU+/+LzTW0sBX2wdiOTefd5sARY=; X-YMail-OSG: vOv8tIoVM1kJsbEMZW4PnJdalUhkJV5vBZdtOx8OK.rR0tcjCkQRm4bnkKK9jzixZZ5zjdp.Qj8hPvzPsH7x0ph_gCuXXbJgIkd58GvLxYRRINzIAFIoGqSyzJT19PbN7WpY4OXg__5z0rE626OgOUDi Received: from [96.229.160.200] by web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:37:05 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Melody Watts To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <594154.92703.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume try this idea..go a little .......Mongol........ X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e1a63a2a-f3c6-4066-b4ab-233464938806 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48C9E3FF.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:37:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO This may work looks simple, it's in the "Discontinued Patterns Section ":under costumes , http://www.simplicity.com/index.cfm?page=athumbnail_OOP.cfm&StartRow=1&category=4 goes up to size 52... or if you haave a good eyes you can just "steal" teh line art and figure it out yourself...it looks pretty much rectanlges and triangles hope that helps. melody Stephen Bergdahl wrote: Help! I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up front. So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up with ideas. Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 00:21:46 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C4Lhqp018585 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:21:45 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C4LbHx028669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:21:40 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C4GCSt004705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:16:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C4GCHf032220; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:16:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C4FWTD031665 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:15:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from costumrs@radiks.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=radiks.net; b=dNV4FENCv2Ci8m2u7Rg/BRh049UFlOTS95lW/n0a/kVjnlr3EQBwCIxC4W8KCAsn; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.252.224] (helo=LAPTOP.radiks.net) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ke047-0004Ga-Fo for h-costume@indra.com; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:15:27 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:58:17 -0500 To: Historical Costume From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger In-Reply-To: References: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 4dc586d4c2c509b54091741908ea4e53186cdfcb74422506ae18f8c27e1ed6932fcce3dfd55b9214350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.223.252.224 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: bc3603a8-f4ad-4ef0-9ced-37e1c2aeb123 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48C9EE51.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:21:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Not necessarily in order of preference: Chinese emperor Mongol emperor Harry Mudd (Star Trek, anyone?) Lord Yu or one of his court - Stargate SG-1 - one of the Goauld Amidala's father (Star Wars) Nicholas Van Rijn (literary space pirate) Note - all either Asian-based or at least Nehru jacket based.... Have fun! Sandy At 01:07 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote: >In line with firefly/star trek..etc. > >Help! > >I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what >to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small >Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is >not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. > >I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low >light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a >tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up >front. > >So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't >mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up >with ideas. > >Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 00:26:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C4QfwE018769 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:26:41 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C4QZjx020416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:26:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C4QF1l005386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:26:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C4QEH4038794; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:26:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from pop-1.dnv.wideopenwest.com (pop-1.dnv.wideopenwest.com [64.233.207.6]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C4QBhn038718 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:26:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mplumb@wideopenwest.com) Received: from Jupiter.PLUMBNET (d14-69-62-55.try.wideopenwest.com [69.14.55.62]) by pop-1.dnv.wideopenwest.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m8C4Q4Gl016963 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <48C9F02B.6040305@wideopenwest.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:29:31 -0400 From: Michelle Plumb User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <48C93DF5.4040106@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: bb0d826e-ae93-4924-8ad9-580e8fc60b49 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48C9EF7B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Don't forget to have a pocketful of Tribbles! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 02:06:20 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8C66Klw024018 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:06:20 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8C66CI2031503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:06:18 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C60306010313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:00:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C602LT094291; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:00:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1d.socket.net [216.106.88.68]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8C5xxTF094215 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:00:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BAAFA5B236 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:59:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historical Costume" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:00:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <48C9F02B.6040305@wideopenwest.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d345b9b2-6a29-4ca0-aa2b-cf33667f0f43 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CA06D4.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:06:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Harry Mudd wasn't the one in the Trouble with Tribbles, that was Cyrano Jones. Also known as Harcourt Fenton Mudd, Harry Mudd was in the one with the women that took the illegal "Venus" drug to make them beautiful, "Mudd's Women" and with the women robots "I, Mudd". -----Original Message----- Ooh! Ooh! I vote Harry Mudd! Don't forget to have a pocketful of Tribbles! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 07:15:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8CBFgLS015540 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:15:42 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CBFZGZ002717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:15:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8CBFDFA029253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:15:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CBFA57093963; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:15:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CBF6U6093891 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:15:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AnnBWass@aol.com) Received: from AnnBWass@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.c31.3f4c802a (32913) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: AnnBWass@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:14:55 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costumes that morph X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a74e57d6-d067-4182-8ba6-377afa4502d5 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CA4F57.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:15:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/11/2008 9:02:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cinbarnes@gmail.com writes: Some amazing costume renditions in this odd little video. I'm guessing it's a teaser for a stage show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAFI1i5FIBc The "costumes" morph as the performer sings. It must have been pretty fun to design. That was amazing! My husband got a kick out of it, too. Would love to see this guy in person. Ann Wass **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 07:23:48 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8CBNkKM018591 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:23:46 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CBNcYb005076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:23:44 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8CBNOl6029654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:23:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CBNOTS099022; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:23:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CBNLNQ098931 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:23:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AnnBWass@aol.com) Received: from AnnBWass@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.d02.4066a0f0 (32913) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: AnnBWass@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:23:09 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume--and even more OT X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: fafb7749-e1b4-4219-8d6b-b90f3cf704b8 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48CA513B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:23:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/12/2008 2:05:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, otsisto@socket.net writes: the one with the women that took the illegal "Venus" drug to make them beautiful, "Mudd's Women" and with the women robots "I, Mudd". And one of the few bits I remember from my teen years reading movie magazines--the women were played by identical twins, so they could have two real women in the picture at once. Ann Wass **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 13:12:42 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8CHCg6M014551 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:12:42 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CHCZ8v022936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:12:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8CHBxL6065154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:11:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CHBt90014433; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:11:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.87]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8CHBoda014261 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:11:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from hippy_dippy_dancer@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37859 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Sep 2008 17:11:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yxllUGg7pf6TLX1xk9ugTjpHvT8h45oGPx1Bhw/a3iw0pSO/uN8HyAstoGpZ7J+zWGs+m8d9R+/5Y0/LVlz3imfC4H30FXZkVvJs2e4oxA/cBYijHA5Rv0Ggb/lZeuDv2butGyHMqHt3ZFx2cGYppu0zzJxS+Cvd+HBiv7wG4Q0=; X-YMail-OSG: fWV1qa4VM1laSaxtKww._kU0JR0q6CwBX3wY5avDbI0Jz2GKEXYRdoTZD6UGq8IWOA-- Received: from [76.182.54.63] by web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:11:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Bambi TBNL To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <938761.37850.qm@web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 155737d2-a779-4ada-b8eb-96d5ab23ff04 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CAA303.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:12:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO laminate it to foam and build you self a walking box....i.e. a chinese carry out purse? (yes I always go for the bizzar0 Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride!!!! Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad see me dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote: From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume To: "Historical Costume" Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:58 PM Not necessarily in order of preference: Chinese emperor Mongol emperor Harry Mudd (Star Trek, anyone?) Lord Yu or one of his court - Stargate SG-1 - one of the Goauld Amidala's father (Star Wars) Nicholas Van Rijn (literary space pirate) Note - all either Asian-based or at least Nehru jacket based.... Have fun! Sandy At 01:07 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote: >In line with firefly/star trek..etc. > >Help! > >I have been invited to a Halloween party, and I am trying to figure out what >to wear. I have 10 yards of BRIGHT green/yellow silk brocade with a small >Chinese letter on it, that I have been wanting to use for year, but it is >not period, unless you consisted the 1980's a period. > >I love this stuff it flows, and where I am going is going to be very low >light, so the bright will work in my favor. The other trouble is I am a >tall ex-jock in shape. Wide shoulders and a waist to match, most of it up >front. > >So I don't have any ideas, it does not have to be historical, but I don't >mind if it is. Help!!!! My brain hurts from trying to come up >with ideas. > >Stephen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 15:08:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8CJ8dHP021662 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:08:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CJ8RCI023309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:08:33 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8CJ7uI0079626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:07:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CJ7sUf021509; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:07:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CJ7qIG021474 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:07:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so383946ywe.71 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=JxgW7fDRNqjIEyQ4wtLwXCASD+K7hlq+J4zpvNElBhw=; b=ZVI9EJFxOdmmeMmfRvdpN+ldNpXIz0MTaChsG0uhJdPA9hbnsPIogLr3LjtFNuB0Au rzRE9LscPhGBMTxREdEG2e1KyUQVyVAAV+l3Xs5/hMDRpRA2ftzEKLyhsr+4FEwAwYYR JNWWZEpC+TwY4ODnC6vzXVLdu8baEobaciA1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=o/gHcvIdjibRITi/fyDLIGR+m2wz1NK/7gO8ReKvGbt699K19X5mKnWlBatlM3CM2J Y6Tgy7JQNMSZhrizJsWI27YnPOVaI9imjsmeTpy4KTCZyJsCxI5IxIEa+L1vRxTkSAMg zmwT4HvZ94VhpXLdDX6cXa7UGqNRQmOoHaQdk= Received: by 10.150.156.9 with SMTP id d9mr6522547ybe.219.1221246472034; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:07:46 -0700 From: Cin To: h-cost MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: f6655e3d-c2d8-437d-91e6-b6954c810739 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48CABE2B.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:08:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Gentle costumers, Is there a chat list for the upcoming CC27 like there was for CC26? I went over to their webpage and it was nearly a blank slate. There's almost no info except for non-costume things like a quilt competition. Oh, sure lots of headers but all follow-on pages are blank. So, either I'm on the wrong site or there's no info out. Where's one to go for class & panel info? Where's one to go for hotel info? Where are the future fashion folio designs? --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 16:10:42 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8CKAgPw025713 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:10:42 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CKAYaN012337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:10:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8CKA8eY084951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:10:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CKA4R4079883; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:10:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.144]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8CK9xK3079718 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:10:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wickedfrau@msn.com) Received: from BAY133-W29 ([65.55.138.64]) by bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:09:54 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [75.174.215.74] From: Saragrace Knauf To: "h-costume@indra.com" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:09:53 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2008 20:09:54.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[856AA310:01C91513] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Celtic design in costume question. X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1dcca97b-5a5e-4823-9377-405bddf138fd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CACCBA.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:10:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Does anyone recall coming across the use of Celtic designs in medieval/renaissance clothing? Like designs in fabric, or even a belt? I have been working on a belt which actually comes from a modern interpretation of Celtic design, http://books.google.com/books?id=IKUHAAAACAAJ&dq=Celtic+Needlepoint++starmore and I was wondering where/when/if I could legitimately incorporate into a "period" costume. Sg _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 12 22:37:37 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8D2bbH3011581 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:37:37 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8D2bU22030626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:37:34 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8D2b1eO011843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:37:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D2avcl053665; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:36:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D2as1G053627 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:36:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.28.180] (core-dc-3-180.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.28.180]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8D2alKe028527 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:36:47 -0700 Message-ID: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:36:50 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ef3f85c1-e291-4583-ac9c-60a5d3f92dcf X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48CB276A.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:37:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Cin wrote: > Gentle costumers, > Is there a chat list for the upcoming CC27 like there was for CC26? I > went over to their webpage and it was nearly a blank slate. There's > almost no info except for non-costume things like a quilt competition. > Oh, sure lots of headers but all follow-on pages are blank. So, > either I'm on the wrong site or there's no info out. > Where's one to go for class & panel info? Where's one to go for hotel > info? Where are the future fashion folio designs? check again - it is all there (just unfortunately hard to read). All the masquerade info is under "Events". I know all the Historic stuff is up, because I'm the director and I put it there long ago. Textile Arts has the info about the quilt contest, the Future Fashion Folio info is up (and ends Oct 1!), both the Historic and SF/F masqerades are under "Stage," and the Single Pattern Contest is a link on the main Events page as well as by a yellow sticker on the main page. As to hotel info, see that annoying red blinking line about the free wifi & parking? it says hotel just above that. And Registration info is under "How to Join" near the bottom on the left. And apparently the programming folks have made up a questionaire asking for ideas of what you want to see that has a link under "programming" - beside another yellow sticker. They'd love to know what people are interested in going to. yeah, I agree, it's not the greatest design in the world, and the background keeps breaking off any time the webmaster tries to make a change... but much of the basic early info is there. Actual forms will be posted as soon as the forms guy sends them to the webmaster . Make sure you're going to the right page: < http://www.costume-con.com/cc27/INDEX.HTM> Oh, and I have been slowly posting bits of info as it comes out on the costumecon LiveJournal community. You can find stage dimensions in a post earlier this year over there. -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 00:39:34 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8D4dXrx017591 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:39:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8D4dPuA005049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:39:29 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8D4YNXb018674 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:34:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D4YLg2012196; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:34:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D4YINP012138 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:34:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from costumrs@radiks.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=radiks.net; b=P7Ql1bSLyZWGhF5nkerb51fTmuOVKJAH/dmIUUaduXkz13u2DkYJvx4Wj0GLmIx2; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.252.224] (helo=LAPTOP.radiks.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KeMpp-0005T8-94 for h-costume@indra.com; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:34:13 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:12:46 -0500 To: Historical Costume From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger In-Reply-To: References: <48C9F02B.6040305@wideopenwest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 4dc586d4c2c509b54091741908ea4e53186cdfcb7442250605352b2aaad8ffceee8f5f0c4c5d2124350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.223.252.224 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0a5e5fe1-7b79-47b4-acc3-c1b6ded246b4 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CB43FD.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:39:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Cyrano Jones works, too! Sandy At 01:00 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote: >Harry Mudd wasn't the one in the Trouble with Tribbles, that was Cyrano >Jones. >Also known as Harcourt Fenton Mudd, Harry Mudd was in the one with the women >that took the illegal "Venus" drug to make them beautiful, "Mudd's Women" >and with the women robots "I, Mudd". > >-----Original Message----- > >Ooh! Ooh! I vote Harry Mudd! >Don't forget to have a pocketful of Tribbles! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 01:12:32 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8D5CVJJ018888 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:12:31 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8D5CNug002153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:12:27 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8D56oUj019937 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:06:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D56nHg030840; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:06:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf3.socket.net (mf3i.socket.net [216.106.88.96]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8D56k7w030799 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:06:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf3.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BD1F677ED1 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:06:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historical Costume" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:07:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Mudd vs. Jones costume RE: Help with OT Costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 30758efd-90a3-4fef-8f1c-820960b6155a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48CB4BB7.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:12:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO OMG no not THAT costume. :P http://www.danhausertrek.com/AnimatedSeries/Cyrano_Big.jpg http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200306/tos-042-cyrano-jones-learns/320x 240.jpg Harry Mudd I, Mudd http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/imudd/mudd_helps.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/DavidB_Bubbles/Harry_Mudd/HarryMudd.jp g Mudd with wife Stella http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Mudd_and_Stella.jpg Mudd's women http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Harry_Mudd2266.jpg Much better then Jones' :) De -----Original Message----- Cyrano Jones works, too! Sandy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 09:33:08 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DDX78q030378 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:33:07 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DDX1nT001658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:33:05 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DDWdjn050802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:32:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DDWaGn011942; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:32:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DDWXUf011853 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:32:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lotsofteapots@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080913133223.URRB9229.mta21.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:32:23 -0400 Received: from OurComputer ([66.168.21.216]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080913133223.UUZR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@OurComputer> for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:32:23 -0400 From: "Rebecca Schmitt" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> Thread-Index: AckVSapBEMeubP6ZRJ25bxMXtq0LyQAW2CoA X-Chzlrs: 0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d9d595d0-aff9-423f-9343-776915af8c67 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CBC10E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:33:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Just a quick suggestion - could you put the dates and city prominently on the home page? I had to finally go to the flyer to find out it was in Baltimore. ************************ Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com > [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Judy Mitchell > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:37 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 > > Cin wrote: > > Gentle costumers, > > Is there a chat list for the upcoming CC27 like there was > for CC26? I > > went over to their webpage and it was nearly a blank slate. > There's > > almost no info except for non-costume things like a quilt > competition. > > Oh, sure lots of headers but all follow-on pages are blank. So, > > either I'm on the wrong site or there's no info out. > > Where's one to go for class & panel info? Where's one to > go for hotel > > info? Where are the future fashion folio designs? > > > check again - it is all there (just unfortunately hard > to read). All the masquerade info is under "Events". I know > all the Historic stuff is up, because I'm the director and I > put it there long ago. Textile Arts has the info about the > quilt contest, the Future Fashion Folio info is up (and ends > Oct 1!), both the Historic and SF/F masqerades are under > "Stage," and the Single Pattern Contest is a link on the > main Events page as well as by a yellow sticker on the main > page. As to hotel info, see that annoying red blinking line > about the free wifi & parking? it says hotel just above that. > And Registration info is under "How to Join" > near the bottom on the left. And apparently the programming > folks have made up a questionaire asking for ideas of what > you want to see that has a link under "programming" - beside > another yellow sticker. They'd love to know what people are > interested in going to. > > yeah, I agree, it's not the greatest design in the > world, and the background keeps breaking off any time the > webmaster tries to make a change... but much of the basic > early info is there. Actual forms will be posted as soon as > the forms guy sends them to the webmaster . > Make sure you're going to the right page: < > http://www.costume-con.com/cc27/INDEX.HTM> > > Oh, and I have been slowly posting bits of info as it > comes out on the costumecon LiveJournal community. You can > find stage dimensions in a post earlier this year over there. > > -Judy Mitchell > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 10:25:35 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DEPZV6000440 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:25:35 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DEPTMa027788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:25:33 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DEPBdZ057785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:25:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DEPBAL051819; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:25:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DEP7Sx051775 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:25:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.28.77] (core-dc-3-77.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.28.77]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DEP2mT003735 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:25:03 -0700 Message-ID: <48CBCD3E.5010605@theoldforest.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:25:02 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b02b9c27-fb47-4612-ab55-c25fc37686da X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CBCD59.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:25:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Rebecca Schmitt wrote: > Just a quick suggestion - could you put the dates and city prominently on > the home page? I had to finally go to the flyer to find out it was in > Baltimore. I can pass on the request - I'm only the Historic Masquerade Director, so I have no effect on the website. Actually, the date is on there in the red line in the lower center, but I agree it's hard to find (like a lot of things). Hey, I"m trying to get him to turn the annoying blink off! People can always contact the webmaster, he might listen to people other than the 'routine nag' (not trying to pass the buck, but you know how people are when they only get feedback from one nagging source ;-) ). all the contact addresses may be found on . His rationale on not listing the location is that if you want to go, you'll go regardless of where it is , and when you check out the hotel it tells you there what city . -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 10:51:47 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DEplOw001519 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:51:47 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DEpb5F009020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:51:40 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DEoiN7059770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:50:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DEoh30069251; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:50:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DEoeb0069119 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:50:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lotsofteapots@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080913145031.WCFB9229.mta21.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:50:31 -0400 Received: from OurComputer ([66.168.21.216]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080913145031.XPBB10008.aarprv04.charter.net@OurComputer> for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:50:31 -0400 From: "Rebecca Schmitt" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> <48CBCD3E.5010605@theoldforest.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:50:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <48CBCD3E.5010605@theoldforest.net> Thread-Index: AckVrJOA7oiytqJGRYqeWgaW3ChB0AAA2DvQ X-Chzlrs: 0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d4029202-b75b-4fa7-a34f-4cab7dba381d X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CBD379.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Ahhhh....yes, one of those. I understand, and will (in my spare time! Ha!) try to send an email to the webmaster to try to convince him that making the website more user-friendly will make attendance much higher! :) ************************ Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com > [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Judy Mitchell > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:25 AM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website > > Rebecca Schmitt wrote: > > Just a quick suggestion - could you put the dates and city > prominently > > on the home page? I had to finally go to the flyer to find > out it was > > in Baltimore. > > > I can pass on the request - I'm only the Historic > Masquerade Director, so I have no effect on the website. > Actually, the date is on there in the red line in the lower > center, but I agree it's hard to find (like a lot of things). > Hey, I"m trying to get him to turn the annoying blink off! > People can always contact the webmaster, he might listen to > people other than the 'routine nag' (not trying to pass the > buck, but you know how people are when they only get feedback > from one nagging source ;-) ). all the contact addresses may > be found on > . His rationale on not listing the location is that if you > want to go, you'll go regardless of where it is eyes>, and when you check out the hotel it tells you there > what city . > > > -Judy Mitchell > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 11:13:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DFDqs9002692 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:13:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DFDe2a015069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:13:46 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DFDOnO061155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:13:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DFDOmH084452; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:13:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DFDL9t084415 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:13:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.28.77] (core-dc-3-77.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.28.77]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DFDGPV008048 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: <48CBD88C.9090409@theoldforest.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:13:16 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <48CB2742.7050505@theoldforest.net> <48CBCD3E.5010605@theoldforest.net> In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 5a7592e8-fe4a-4cc1-988b-8829bae25354 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CBD8A4.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:13:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Rebecca Schmitt wrote: > Ahhhh....yes, one of those. I understand, and will (in my spare time! Ha!) > try to send an email to the webmaster to try to convince him that making the > website more user-friendly will make attendance much higher! :) cool. I have sent on a note with the requests, but more sources are definitely better - that way he knows it's not just me making it up ;) -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 16:02:28 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DK2Aal017844 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:02:12 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DK25lI017984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:02:08 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DK1fXY084240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:01:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DK1bw6068714; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:01:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DK1aNt068702 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:01:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c48so775131wra.23 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:01:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bGTrYgm4lKBsd23a8vOHImBD/G7/ZoK+eI+8J2W+Quc=; b=WaAu4KCf3elqrfT6Vo3wjsZ3Eog6QhhVweGGWKQ+0Y621APHWXsVKCRcPnaiDHu0ef lTy3L2Vs3Rhwx1SFjbT0I/awBsbqBFnwdT1JXi8fpDqeaZi79m8WgoO5r13SZScTDn7A zYDgIXTtRRJ7NO4/qwEjRqTmOs6D3zs9ZrdOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fdz/qVWzTWCwzDspmnvD+h33sL6EWB8laD02iouMcFsb0fohmml8Rfo80n9XTLepZl I3BwkJIQLTrFNu60AedHEbOCGpJYLX9FuYaDdczRPvDjoenVZ/homSWhIGiZYYddPYjz MUodvZR2L4E54TARbzHkLE3WFjfe61DtoaY2A= Received: by 10.90.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr7196313aga.59.1221336096296; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809131301q29054a49y6fce07e92cb5abef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:01:36 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <48C6D46E.9000501@reddawn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <870801590809091136i1e4d1ca4v75cc8c4afefe957c@mail.gmail.com> <48C6D46E.9000501@reddawn.net> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] wrinkles out of silk X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: fed96f54-7ed1-4e7e-8262-9cd52703c817 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48CC1C3D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:02:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I hung the skirt on the back of the bathroom door and just one shower was enough to loosen most of the wrinkles out of both layers of the silk! I have some modifications to do to the skirt hem and I'll press to get the creases that I want, but it looks like there's little to none of the other creases and wrinkles. alex always happy to find a process that requires minimun effort on my part :) On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Dawn wrote: > >> >> Dampen and toss in warm dryer? Press with a higher heat? Use Steam >> with higher heat? obviously I don't want to ruin the fabric and I >> definitely don't want to lose the crispness of the duponi. >> > > Don't do the damp and dryer thing, that will just make it worse and you will > lose crispness. I have good luck with a little steam, it doesn't have to be > super hot. I use a lot of dupioni remnants for linings and they are always > wrinkled. If you can press on the wrinkles with the creases pointing up, > like this ^ it's better than pressing them the other way. > > If you have a small bathroom and can get it really steamy, you might try > just hanging the skirt and seeing what will fall out of it that way. > > > > Dawn > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 18:21:05 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8DML5IK028098 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:21:05 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8DMKhvQ016979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:21:02 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8DMKJGN093520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:20:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DMKGGC053633; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:20:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f33.google.com (mail-gx0-f33.google.com [209.85.217.33]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8DMKFP3053562 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:20:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so10395246gxk.23 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=1ntN3zzTVtuAiGPBm8BFN29WzHk0ye9oIy7l20+SaVM=; b=Qf+2oFTrBn4xMjVkVsT3xe0yMoxiNAkX2SmIc04FkPZB74vD6ZXx979m5qvS4RaHR2 KmcscBhsX4ybeL8lEwpgTI9RSECnqhhQaLT9gDiPnuDJSSL+pQ4iuEqNFYW4att/JpTQ g32GiO5oOU6rGhApHd+5jE9zhQtIf9dmHN2E4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=A8b0AofnKEV+Zfgj0P6CSB+Ut2uO/07i8hjNm9JYsCOSD8PrrTN+2i74JEcIQiBknf GFGjsruVK58a06AyAhlwJ8sju/gyLY+Y4asx5ExZvBMN8QSgRY/PkjBQGDNZKCOhNZ6A enItxQ36ZlRT+PS5gkJEu7jOdooHO1H+J/qfo= Received: by 10.150.227.9 with SMTP id z9mr8318722ybg.74.1221344410349; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:20:10 -0700 From: Cin To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d929714b-d974-4350-93a1-282cb840bfaf X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CC3CBB.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:21:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > Is there a chat list for the upcoming CC27 like there was for CC26? Is there a chat list? --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 13 23:38:00 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8E3bx3h012074 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:37:59 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8E3bsst030744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:37:57 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8E3bTNu010115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:37:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8E3bQ1V023199; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:37:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8E3bNNV023159 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:37:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.28.48] (core-dc-3-48.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.28.48]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8E3bEnj007862 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:37:15 -0700 Message-ID: <48CC86ED.8040709@theoldforest.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:37:17 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 767c72ee-5251-4611-be7c-38ebb909aa53 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CC8712.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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I think CC26 may have been the first time I've heard of a chat list for a CC, usually they just send out progress reports. -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 14 04:00:56 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8E80tZm022599 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:00:56 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8E80o8F032468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:00:53 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8E80IhY025025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:00:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8E80EFO049919; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:00:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web32205.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32205.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.136]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8E80ASR049842 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:00:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sstormwatch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37493 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Sep 2008 08:00:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=dAF6y35grYJcM3w9yr/RbHMzmnyuXvv0LFnjmrwasQucdG0MPICJY7yBSUKNiqBWamoCLqVhCQGJn90aVJTqI34wA2c3q77KNs7OCSTN+FKgG8rnhcE3BZesYTtQeesaZpvFOBvVVBWrC6Ox3g7klA0zwkZqrRRr3ptZZIqqdHY=; X-YMail-OSG: t0mc184VM1mbMp4Vwa09Vy_Zis9sdpqHLSh4yyUwBFrD2NDIw8F.XrUbrp7cQM8F4IWNeMO_pCe7dfE118cjPCbo2OJoHuwvJc2qKh0dydQ0m8afZJuAvgoqJwiqvP3NYBTnM_GE4Ueldc1Vlv6UaBEj Received: from [68.127.119.52] by web32205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:00:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:00:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kimiko Small To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <429469.36425.qm@web32205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] side view tudor headdress X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 40888145-080e-4bfb-9964-d43efe948877 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CCC4B2.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:00:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, WHOIS_PRIVPROT autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Sorry for coming in on this late. I just got my computer laptop repaired (yah for working keyboards). I have a number of images, sorted by decade, on my web site, specifically on French hoods. You can see the different styles easier this way, tho some decades have fewer images than others. http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/index.html One of my favorite images, that is not from a coin, is of Bathsheba by Simon Bening. http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1530/Bathsheba.html Details on two pages. http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1530/BathshebaHead1.html http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1530/BathshebaHead2.html Not the clearest of details, but in the one image, you get side, front and back views of the French hood (or hoods, as there are differences). I also have the coins of Mary Tudor in the 1550s section. Kimiko --- On Tue, 9/9/08, otsisto wrote: > http://www.marileecody.com/mary1medal.jpg > > Nice clear lines. > De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 14 04:11:39 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8E8BbmT022960 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:11:37 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8E8BWsf001324 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:11:35 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8E8B8Wi025525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:11:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8E8B8lY054885; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:11:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.139]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8E8B5R7054809 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:11:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sstormwatch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4065 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Sep 2008 08:11:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Esc6+aDoDfOn/vKWt4alqtgzGRYFnB5Wa5ll8648/mL0kla0/UAmrv8c8Ac9y1TVANZW/s8LqVr2K7OJ9ZYQzxPZhb6fT5fHGVTrK+KSZ1fvQo7rOp/+0DKQeKf7AJDFmJAB44byBOURue8G8zcFxjY6xOS6JR+NhnGEIbVeGOk=; X-YMail-OSG: 27nFGTcVM1mkZsFIZZyXIdKQr9wTOR6Fxa__QrBUlP_UscDd9LeRRuar0Emp2pQJ.ne3OtyUzecaNIYFx57K0QoCHOjif7idC0ukFE2FjY4MwhX7E6EuGNyIzdFmUkquABndP9rTvkPo3BDKjoyd327N Received: from [68.127.119.52] by web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:11:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Kimiko Small To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <140467.2878.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Celtic design in costume question. X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2ceb4f4a-fd98-43be-9da2-d0b7d330dc5e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CCC734.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:11:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote: > Does anyone recall coming across the use of Celtic designs > in medieval/renaissance clothing? Like designs in fabric, > or even a belt? I think it would depend on the design in question. I've seen what we call "celtic knots" as embroidered decorations, from blackwork, to the curtains behind Henry VIII, to the embroidery seen on Francois of France's doublet and sleeves. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jean_Clouet_001.jpg Those really aren't so much celtic, but came from the middle east, that traveled into Europe, and ended up in many of the pattern books of the 16th century. But if you mean the triskelion designs similar to the cover of the book you linked to, not that I have seen on fabric. It has been many years ago, but I think I remember those from stone crosses. Kimiko _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 14 08:55:06 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8ECt63S011440 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:55:06 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8ECsxJg008713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:55:03 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8ECsaXO043548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:54:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8ECsXHm008132; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:54:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8ECsT8c008087 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:54:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.28.51] (core-dc-3-51.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.28.51]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8ECsI2v016845 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:54:25 -0700 Message-ID: <48CD0975.6020909@theoldforest.net> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:54:13 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h-costume X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] CC27 Future Fashion Folio X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a1577098-1604-4677-bc49-543003b5af5c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CD09A3.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:55:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO (reposted from ICG-D) This is a friendly reminder that there are just over two weeks left to the deadline for the Costume-Con 27 Fashion Design contest. Rules are on the CC27 site here: http://www.costume-con.com/cc27/future_fashion_folio.htm You do NOT have to be a member of the convention to participate. And yes, you can submit designs via email if you need to to get them here in time. Your images need to be 300 dpi, and JPG and PDF are preferred formats, although I can read almost anything. Please, one design per email if you go this route. Send to castleb@pulsenet.com. Thank you, and I hope to see the usual selection of wonderful designs from you all! --Karen _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 15 13:00:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8FH0JEt013606 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:00:20 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8FH09Co027011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:00:13 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8FGxTRn068086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:59:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FGxPmt094903; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:59:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FGxMSm094856 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:59:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (static-71-248-116-82.bltmmd.east.verizon.net [71.248.116.82]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8FGxDG5020114 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: <48CEB6BC.9010506@theoldforest.net> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:25:48 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h-costume X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC-27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a96340fb-36fc-4cf7-8b48-bfd45b2f6e4f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CE9499.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:00:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi folks, I have passed on all the concerns to the Powers That Be. The website will hopefully get worked over this week, as to a chat list.. is there really interest? I've been given permission to start one up on yahoo if people want it. Will that do? -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 15 14:20:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8FIKwtU016878 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:20:59 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8FIKp7D022475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8FIKNxa077028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:20:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIKLc0086246; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIKJKd086208 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:20:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c48so1148471wra.23 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:20:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=tTp3I9OuxKeos6JU4dxTiizshsUb6FVJhAo6LvRLPEE=; b=I9WPhXdO3/FCpRwKTBwL+a/sV2DrOMlCZLtrv/JgdYgHA1AYIx5uhH88jMwYXd4SUO JHQ7UMq70EjSkic2iIng1cti1LdSeAS3373xeVgb/lIugZ3pyC9iS5Na2jv66OUggdqT lzNACZyDzFVEIp5SxnIQASLlvfmpWiDxqlC0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eOpJoIYg8qcYlbjtJ5u673F/ssCB6/SVFVKVIceG4EWn93sECq8kUs1carn+QfkKc+ UIParxS+/NfHY7eoBLWaj9whDftxSDYidb55XwDlxbVIqReG8EeypYqpbfNj/SBxzD+l Au/EcgxD86WR9Gm9qsovRueLXlZmxKbI/U3/k= Received: by 10.150.182.17 with SMTP id e17mr4190851ybf.212.1221502819090; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:20:19 -0700 From: Cin To: judymitch@theoldforest.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Cc: h-costume@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 chat list X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1423523f-6bce-4aac-af16-e5d1ee9900dd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48CEA784.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Judy, Would you pass along for me a request for a CC27 chat list. I have no idea who'd be the right person on the committee. It was fun to hear people's plans, a great place to ask local people for advice (like shopping for wierd glues & stuff you cant reliably bring on planes) a place to seek out a fashion model or some spare clothes hangers and all manner of useful (and useless) gossip. A chat list doesnt have to be a function of the website. A quick note that says CC27 chat list on googlegroups would be more than adequate. Thanks, Judy. Best regards, --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 To: Historical Costume Message-ID: <48CC86ED.8040709@theoldforest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Cin wrote: > Is there a chat list? um... no. I think CC26 may have been the first time I've heard of a chat list for a CC, usually they just send out progress reports. -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 15 14:31:50 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8FIVoML017323 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:31:50 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8FIVf7r022228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:31:45 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8FIVKAM077958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:31:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIVKYu097416; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:31:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIVHVa097352 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:31:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so848017ele.8 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=SwlteMHZ+pWWWaSwDK6jWCe1NokTICspKTXMvcKDHvo=; b=awYAS8n242ELKCzCKPclDtzZXpVZTHNZdFrFY/0kWAehHysZiQ/fYGRjyuzmDvuKME Z0Emk/P92Lkx+Mr+J95CTEQMyQ6IV49OM+uWtm/I3YZmksp+fUXiqD11tanFHvI/F5Ax SYY8iAXScEgDTPu0hOcq1gj9UTghijADMFqHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tarzG9aq38cUx8MZ15hgHv5q3R9a7UmRY6V7hXSXeP2eaxXW50V3dH+SVGJDCy4wIa YCjjEXcqNfVMdWrYZF5r5W5s7woQREykxkbg/0NHqcntLn42ZuS325PgUoOlWyLsG3fl 6OxST+Qrx9lOPqOxA+0Mt/ttsCYrD94fyHNf8= Received: by 10.151.12.1 with SMTP id p1mr11243003ybi.1.1221503476961; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:31:16 -0700 From: Cin To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC-27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2ce118e5-866e-47d5-8501-4e5a7206c472 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CEAA0D.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:31:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Yes'm. Looks like my request was filled before I made it. Thanks, --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com > From: Judy Mitchell > Hi folks, > > I have passed on all the concerns to the Powers That Be. The website > will hopefully get worked over this week, as to a chat list.. is there > really interest? I've been given permission to start one up on yahoo if > people want it. Will that do? > > -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 15 14:58:28 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8FIwSR7018255 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:58:28 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8FIwL9i002720 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:58:25 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8FIw6x4081354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:58:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIw6qq025177; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:58:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp1.av-mx.com (smtp1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.57]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8FIw1p7025089 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:58:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from twgilbert@fairpoint.net) Received: from Gilbert (dsl-74-209-45-165.fairpoint.net [74.209.45.165]) (Authenticated sender: twgilbert@fairpoint.net) by smtp1.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA4D2905A3 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <543E56FC300242268214E5A2F137F24E@Gilbert> From: "Gilbert" To: "Historical Costume" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:57:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Finished Empire Gown X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0f566b40-1280-4341-bbd4-f9df4acd94de X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48CEB04D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:58:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Dear All, I've been working an an Empire gown (well, actually three which I had to size up until I got one that fit me) for over a year, and now it's done. You can see it in progress on my website www.marjoriegilbert.net, as well as a section on the stays I made for it, and how to get dressed in the gown (which is a bit of a process). I hope you enjoy it! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cin" To: Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC-27 > Yes'm. Looks like my request was filled before I made it. > Thanks, > --cin > Cynthia Barnes > CinBarnes@gmail.com > > >> From: Judy Mitchell >> Hi folks, >> >> I have passed on all the concerns to the Powers That Be. The >> website >> will hopefully get worked over this week, as to a chat list.. is there >> really interest? I've been given permission to start one up on yahoo if >> people want it. 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:03:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO The gown suits you very nicely. And you got it Done! Hurrah! I sympathize with the sizing issues--I tend to go to the other extreme, and= start with my measurements & add, add, add. I had to put in a 9" hem this= July, which is fairly absurd for a quickie gown to wear camping. And what d'ye mean, OT? Historic clothing is the raison d'=EAtre of this l= ist, and quite on topic. :) Ann in CT = _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 08:53:27 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GCrPxL013204 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:53:25 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GCr80i019249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:53:19 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GCqqmK054224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GCqns4064401; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:52:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (IDENT:root@ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GCqks0064367 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:52:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judymitch@theoldforest.net) Received: from [69.72.29.44] (core-dc-4-44.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [69.72.29.44]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GCqhBY030199 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:52:44 -0700 Message-ID: <48CFAC1A.8070400@theoldforest.net> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:52:42 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h-costume X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC27 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 76c82c23-7649-42cf-bb63-0f5a9016a942 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48CFAC34.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:53:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi all, ak, there is now a chat group on yahoo for discussing all things CostumeCon. It will stay up (hopefully) and transfer to each successive year's concom, so it isn't one year spcific and you won't have to join each time. One of the co-chairs is already on board, so come, feel free to ask any questions about how CC27 is going, what is happening and discuss amongst yourselves what you are planning on doing there. Have fun! -Judy Mitchell _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 09:42:04 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GDg3lt015120 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:42:03 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GDfrWU022838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:41:57 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GDfUcL058083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:41:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GDfUIa001085; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:41:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.21]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8GDfSY8000982 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:41:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scarlettquilts@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70875 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2008 13:41:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3RRVgqxMijeJTgb7UZOjFu01EOBKFUPgTDoZJ6lytcfu4W7k58WfT7Wc3OSoigH8Uy+gA6s5OnzhHteftwB56GZU1zsM+C5+xzmXHQ2nwMEYED8fBhkkNmXAdnz2q3gci8Ch6syP0UMTdzWReFggySoxla84RJHWcElYDIMLpG8=; X-YMail-OSG: l3GcLrEVM1lgmjXFy0_rodmVZY6R5qyiO0szLSldLJetPFs365Sfs6ZYKN4rXaE9L8U4bK2p4B_klK0rUkixfBTba_cS8AFxGBV3Qe3DYwLg926NVQiENPZSccr2Y_2NpHIgfuGjisRgDbdCgJf7ldHy Received: from [74.71.19.247] by web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:41:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathleen Gillies To: h-costume@mail.indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <665001.70859.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] celtic knot designs X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 03eac472-cfc6-4aaa-89e7-f9f6ca6a191e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48CFB7A1.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:41:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi Zuzana, I saw this link last weekend on one of my other lists. http://www.gracefulembroidery.com/index.html They were advertising a new design collection of celtic knots. I don't know if this is what you are looking for as I could not find a pic at your link. I have never purchased any designs from this seller but apparently she has a good reputation. I hope this helps Kathy _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 09:50:12 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GDoCx9015399 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:50:12 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GDo2ga022921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:50:06 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GDnktt058626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:49:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GDnjcr007430; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:49:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp1.av-mx.com (smtp1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.57]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GDngZZ007387 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:49:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from twgilbert@fairpoint.net) Received: from Gilbert (dsl-74-209-45-165.fairpoint.net [74.209.45.165]) (Authenticated sender: twgilbert@fairpoint.net) by smtp1.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1A1290A0E for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Gilbert" To: "Historical Costume" References: <304341.23021.qm@web51312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <304341.23021.qm@web51312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:49:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Finished Empire Gown X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7f91ab1c-7142-4188-82af-e604f207b571 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CFB98A.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:50:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Ann (almost a neighbor), Thank you for your kind words! Yes, finished! Hurrah! Though I think I won't wear the gown to go shopping = as I originally threatened as the train is such a bother (to myself and = others). Better for promenading sedately in book stores or less trafficked = places... Resizing is challenging. You must be quite tall to have to add 9 inches to = the hem. Thank you for your kind words! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Ann Catelli" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Finished Empire Gown The gown suits you very nicely. And you got it Done! Hurrah! I sympathize with the sizing issues--I tend to go to the other extreme, and = start with my measurements & add, add, add. I had to put in a 9" hem this = July, which is fairly absurd for a quickie gown to wear camping. And what d'ye mean, OT? Historic clothing is the raison d'=EAtre of this = list, and quite on topic. :) Ann in CT _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 10:11:06 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GEB6QD016134 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:11:06 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GEAumN003641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:10:59 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GEAZGH060640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEAYnw024953; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEAVZX024827 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ruthanneb@mindspring.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=g12+LjPZRuCp0OgrLY9+iDOliqM8uqahz/uAspoTynLWjytWyorFMS3NfDW2fa8Z; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.52] (helo=mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KfbG6-0007P8-53 for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:10:26 -0400 Received: from 64.202.85.51 by webmail.atl.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:10:25 -0400 Message-ID: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:10:25 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: ruthanneb@mindspring.com To: Historical Costume Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 3ad22d0308f02f3c21b586f7ff62647d40683398e744b8a442d6913e65ff9673cc4791620d34fe57387f7b89c61deb1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.52 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Finished Empire Gown X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0bbcd357-3aa9-40e2-a095-6d9b523e627c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CFBE70.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:11:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO The dress diary is very interesting. I've been flirting with a gown from one of the Albert books for some time and may now get up the nerve to try it. BUT the most enjoyable part of your site is the What-kind-of-romance-novel-heroine-are-you quiz. I took it in the spirit of fun and discovered that the result is a pretty good picture of the actual me! Who knew? Thanks so much for your posting! --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -----Original Message----- >From: Gilbert >Sent: Sep 15, 2008 2:57 PM >To: Historical Costume >Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Finished Empire Gown > >Dear All, > >I've been working an an Empire gown (well, actually three which I had to >size up until I got one that fit me) for over a year, and now it's done. You >can see it in progress on my website www.marjoriegilbert.net, as well as a >section on the stays I made for it, and how to get dressed in the gown >(which is a bit of a process). > >I hope you enjoy it! > >Marjorie > >Marjorie Gilbert >author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England >www.marjoriegilbert.net >http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cin" >To: >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:31 PM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC-27 > > >> Yes'm. Looks like my request was filled before I made it. >> Thanks, >> --cin >> Cynthia Barnes >> CinBarnes@gmail.com >> >> >>> From: Judy Mitchell >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I have passed on all the concerns to the Powers That Be. The >>> website >>> will hopefully get worked over this week, as to a chat list.. is there >>> really interest? I've been given permission to start one up on yahoo if >>> people want it. Will that do? >>> >>> -Judy Mitchell >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 10:17:25 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GEH1DA016304 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:17:25 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GEGc8B012731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:16:41 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GEGNAX061303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:16:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEGNos030224; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:16:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEGKHJ030089 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:16:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from claning@igc.org) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=igc.org; b=Tx/nhvAXkuCTZxGQx63OXS1YtvkWisQ9spNZf0NFxfFxZmon+08hr12mWDzUPHIk; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.126.135.132] (helo=[172.16.1.10]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KfbLi-0004UN-OR for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:16:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <140467.2878.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <140467.2878.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: From: Chris Laning Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:10:49 -0700 To: Historical Costume X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ELNK-Trace: 295639c8be741617f84080ff3e30f22c6d69784abb98340c2edf19b7cd4d8a75350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.126.135.132 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Celtic design in costume question. X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b926daa5-9e6e-4000-ae9a-83876dda7dd9 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48CFBFC6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:16:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Sep 14, 2008, at 1:11 AM, Kimiko Small wrote: > --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote: >> Does anyone recall coming across the use of Celtic designs >> in medieval/renaissance clothing? Like designs in fabric, >> or even a belt? > > > I think it would depend on the design in question. I've seen what > we call "celtic knots" as embroidered decorations, from blackwork, > to the curtains behind Henry VIII, to the embroidery seen on > Francois of France's doublet and sleeves. > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jean_Clouet_001.jpg > Those really aren't so much celtic, but came from the middle east, > that traveled into Europe, and ended up in many of the pattern > books of the 16th century. > > But if you mean the triskelion designs similar to the cover of the > book you linked to, not that I have seen on fabric. It has been > many years ago, but I think I remember those from stone crosses. As one who has frequently been complimented on the "Celtic knotwork" on my Renaissance gown .... Yes, knotwork was very popular in many parts of Renaissance Europe. Clouet's portrait of King Francis I of France and the portraits of Henry VIII are full of it. But there isn't any real connection to "Celtic" in this case -- it's just knotwork. And you don't see the contorted beasts, or many of the other aspects of design (like triskelions) that we associate with the "Celtic knotwork" that you see in manuscripts, jewelry, et cetera. For some examples of Renaissance knotwork and a bit of discussion: http://www.bayrose.org/wkneedle/Articles/interlace.html ____________________________________________________________ O Chris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 10:51:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GEpwen017766 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:51:58 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GEppOa021157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:51:55 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GEkS2n063972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:46:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEkSRx060615; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:46:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp1.av-mx.com (smtp1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.57]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GEkPRE060562 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:46:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from twgilbert@fairpoint.net) Received: from Gilbert (dsl-74-209-45-165.fairpoint.net [74.209.45.165]) (Authenticated sender: twgilbert@fairpoint.net) by smtp1.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696D02906BC for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> From: "Gilbert" To: "Historical Costume" References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:46:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Finished Empire Gown X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 919562df-4a43-4a46-8470-2215e23acc37 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CFC807.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:51:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS,WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > The dress diary is very interesting. I've been flirting with a gown from > one of the Albert books for some time and may now get up the nerve to try > it. I hope you do go for it, Ruth! Why the heck not? I hope you do what I didn't, and that's work with mock-ups more. Had I done that, I would have saved myself time, I think... Glad you liked the diary and the quiz! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 12:29:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GGTehU022498 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:29:40 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GGTVLo019952 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:29:35 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GGT1PA077514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:29:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GGSvHJ069872; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:28:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.142]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GGSsNQ069741 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:28:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W17 ([65.54.161.117]) by bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:28:49 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.199.154.68] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:28:49 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2008 16:28:49.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CA01B60:01C91819] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7a322d6a-31f0-45b0-9363-ade233308433 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CFDEEB.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:29:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO You guys know wool better than any sewing list I belong to... I know that some of this has been covered previously, but I had no luck finding it in the archives (I am only semi computer literate). I have two questions about this fabric: http://tinyurl.com/5bwd3h 1) I am going to make a coat for my 16 year old daughter (some of you may remember I just did this last spring [http://laswa.livejournal.com/24074.html#cutid1]), but she wore it in the rain and her father's girlfriend threw it in the dryer and it shrank down too much to use. Sigh. Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this happening again? And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and weird to work with)? 2) The color is a little loud for even her, so I would like to overdye it, to perhaps one of these two shades. I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, but how do I guess what color to overdye with to get what shade? http://tinyurl.com/5hbaw6 http://tinyurl.com/6f29yg Thanks so much, Laurie _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 12:59:17 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GGxHvG024313 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:59:17 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GGxAFK011689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:59:14 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GGrh5Y081055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:53:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GGrglP002479; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:53:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from cgp.netins.net (f1phy.netins.net [167.142.228.65]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GGrdON002392 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:53:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from landofoz@netins.net) X-netINS-MPP: scanned Received: from [67.55.167.47] (account landofoz@netins.net HELO denise8541f2db) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 1799534466 for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <04d001c9181c$c186aef0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> From: "Land of Oz" To: "Historical Costume" References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:53:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: bf334b79-4f80-42d0-80b7-ddca7116369c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CFE5DE.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:59:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > > 1) . Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this > happening again? And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and > weird to work with)? > > 2) I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, but how do I guess what > color to overdye with to get what shade? > Yes, you can pre-shrink. For both questions, you need to use samples. Cut a square of fabric and measure it. The bigger the better if you want to evaluate the hand/thickness/flexibility, etc. Wash and dry the sample, measuring it BEFORE and AFTER. Keep notes. If you can buy enough extra, do several. Wash all of them once, save one out and label it 1, wash and dry the rest, save one out and label it 2, etc. This will tell you if the fabric continues to shrink after 2 or 3 washes. The fabric is less likely to get wavy if it isn't twisted and pulled while washing. Using a front loader will help, but the rate of shrinkage might be less per washing. As for dyeing, you'll have to cut lots of small samples (2x2 at least) and test several different strengths of dye, and maybe several colors. You might be able to just use the color you want (raspberry) and overdye with a medium strength. You might need a weak grey, blue or tan, etc. depending on what kinds of colors are "inside" the dyes used on the fabric and the dyes you use to shift it to a duller pink. Experiment, Experiment, Experiment. ;-) Denise B _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 13:33:45 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GHXi8U026112 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:44 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GHXaif028502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GHXAsf086485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GHX60b047704; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from s5.cableone.net (s5.cableone.net [24.116.0.231]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GHX2W9047536 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kbaird@cableone.net) Received: from anteckim (unverified [24.119.254.13]) by s5.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service s5) with ESMTP id 7227997-1872270 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:32:56 -0700 From: "Kim Baird" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: <13C5576D0EA6470B8888E0663037E9D7@anteckim> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckYGWJYn0idNHuKRdWftEc/hMe2ugACKP+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: X-Vpipe: Scanner said ok (av_avast) X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 3, First 159, in=78, out=0, spam=0 ip=24.119.254.13 X-Originating-IP: 24.119.254.13 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: f7e59a76-5839-4c30-bad3-5cefff74f5e0 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48CFEDF0.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO You can't make a fuchsia into a lighter pink, you''ll have to go darker, or at least toned down. I would try some brown dye on it. Start with a smaller amount--you can always re-dye darker, if you need to. Why don't you just put in a label that says DRY CLEAN ONLY? Kim -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of zelda crusher Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:29 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton You guys know wool better than any sewing list I belong to... I know that some of this has been covered previously, but I had no luck finding it in the archives (I am only semi computer literate). I have two questions about this fabric: http://tinyurl.com/5bwd3h 1) I am going to make a coat for my 16 year old daughter (some of you may remember I just did this last spring [http://laswa.livejournal.com/24074.html#cutid1]), but she wore it in the rain and her father's girlfriend threw it in the dryer and it shrank down too much to use. Sigh. Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this happening again? And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and weird to work with)? 2) The color is a little loud for even her, so I would like to overdye it, to perhaps one of these two shades. I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, but how do I guess what color to overdye with to get what shade? http://tinyurl.com/5hbaw6 http://tinyurl.com/6f29yg Thanks so much, Laurie _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 14:07:26 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GI7Qn0027798 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GI7Kv8025511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:07:23 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GI20Nc090627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:02:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GI20sb079065; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:02:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from escobar.thibault.org (escobar.thibault.org [72.249.22.134]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GI0pOd077888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:00:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cvirtue@thibault.org) Received: from Cynthia-Virtues-Computer.local (c-71-232-126-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [71.232.126.138]) by escobar.thibault.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE98E249F4 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:00:46 -0400 From: Cynthia Virtue User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 1c429604-591f-4041-909e-aff81f3b4e15 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48CFF5D8.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:07:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi H-Cost! In grade school, I was told that pictures like this http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/womena6.jpg showed ancient Egyptian women with perfumed wax or fat on their heads, which melted over the course of the evening, and smelled good. It recently came to mind again, and I've tried to find citations for this, but all I can find is people repeating it without providing any other details. I thirst for a source! A good source! Really, it does seem ridiculous. Not just the basic idea, but the consequences. First, you get melted wax or fat in your wig. This is probably difficult to clean out (although I suppose you could just hand it to the servants and not worry about it.) Next, the wax or oil or fat gets all over your skin. This is a hot country and being covered in oozing wax is probably unpleasant, even if it smells nice. It makes it hard to stay cool. Thirdly, all those diaphanous pleated gowns would soon look like the tail end of a wet T-shirt contest, which I could understand being somewhat interesting for half the population, but seems unlikely to be a popular fashion statement. But I could be totally off-base. Without any kind of authority that I can find, though, I am frustrated. Any leads or suggestions? cv _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 14:14:34 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GIEYoD028160 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:14:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GIERZk001561 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:14:31 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GIE51q091648 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:14:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GIE48j090682; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:14:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m22.mail.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GIE0O6090503 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:14:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id 6.cd1.38df5cf9 (39329) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:49 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d0a47645-5910-4970-971a-ca8b2b0d7623 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48CFF783.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/16/2008 12:54:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, landofoz@netins.net writes: Experiment, Experiment, Experiment. ;-) Indeed! I can tell you if you dye a fuchsia fabric with a plumb color (purplish blue) you get a great concord grape purple! Anyway.... If a raspberry is the color you want, you'll want to go to the red not to the blue on your already fuchsia and "kill" it a tiny bit. Usually the complimentary color will kill the intensity of a color....in this case a green. A drop or two of greenish grey with that red may do the trick. I suggest even before experimenting, get a color wheel from an art shop so you can better determine where colors come from and how "far away" from your goal you are to start with. Also...have a specific goal. Get a color swatch.... even paint chips from the paint dept are good.... that is the final color you want so you have a firm goal to work towards. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 15:37:47 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GJbl4C031855 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:47 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GJbexW022357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:44 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GJbB8T099144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:37:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GJb7ct072941; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:37:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8GJb3SZ072778 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:37:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h.zickermann@gmx.de) Message-Id: <200809161937.m8GJb3SZ072778@net.indra.com> Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2008 19:36:57 -0000 Received: from p548E389E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO PC286562288218.gmx.de) [84.142.56.158] by mail.gmx.net (mp066) with SMTP; 16 Sep 2008 21:36:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #23039962 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18IJowLTC8Itl8vAHFcl/N2kf24FuO8apb8mUSkGy zEvyyu1HKFYKx6 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:36:41 +0200 To: Historical Costume From: Hanna Zickermann In-Reply-To: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> References: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b907c9de-2ec3-48cb-a3bd-0ceffc8c4480 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D00B04.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hi, maybe there=B4s something in "The artifice of = beauty" by Sally Pointer? I didn=B4t have the = chance to read it yet, but at first glance it looked most promising. Hanna At 20:00 16.09.2008, you wrote: >Hi H-Cost! > >In grade school, I was told that pictures like = >this = >http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/womena6.jpg = >showed ancient Egyptian women with perfumed wax = >or fat on their heads, which melted over the = >course of the evening, and smelled good. > >It recently came to mind again, and I've tried = >to find citations for this, but all I can find = >is people repeating it without providing any = >other details. I thirst for a source! A good source! > >Really, it does seem ridiculous. Not just the = >basic idea, but the consequences. First, you = >get melted wax or fat in your wig. This is = >probably difficult to clean out (although I = >suppose you could just hand it to the servants = >and not worry about it.) Next, the wax or oil = >or fat gets all over your skin. This is a hot = >country and being covered in oozing wax is = >probably unpleasant, even if it smells nice. It = >makes it hard to stay cool. Thirdly, all those = >diaphanous pleated gowns would soon look like = >the tail end of a wet T-shirt contest, which I = >could understand being somewhat interesting for = >half the population, but seems unlikely to be a popular fashion statement. > >But I could be totally off-base. Without any = >kind of authority that I can find, though, I am frustrated. > >Any leads or suggestions? > >cv >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 16:00:18 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GK0IvC032601 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:00:18 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GK0CGx030518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:00:16 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GJxjZj001086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:59:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GJxjY0096070; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:59:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from itasca.net (magilla.itasca.net [12.157.198.4]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GJxfni095987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:59:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from pixel@itasca.net) Received: from pixel (helo=localhost) by itasca.net with local-esmtp (Exim 4.67 and XAMS 0.0.15) id 1KfgYf-0008Vg-Nx for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:49:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:49:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" X-X-Sender: pixel@magilla.itasca.net To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <140467.2878.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] I saw it!!!!! X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3b4ef6d2-64a0-4a26-9f1a-4b55a46d6635 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D0104C.005 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:00:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I saw the sleeve!!!!! *bounce* *bounce* *bounce* Yesterday we got back from a week in England, which included a weekend in London. Although the VA and the British Museum are currently remodeling their medieval galleries, the Museum of London is *not* (having already done so) and so my consort and I had something to occupy ourselves on Saturday while my husband attended an SCA event and did geeky herald things. The MoL does not ban photography. And they have many nifty things one can see and take pictures of and fantasize about fondling. Including the 14th c. sleeve fragment. It's in a glass display case along with some textile production tools out where everyone can see. I was inches away from the actual sleeve! I was overcome with emotion, but not so much that I couldn't focus the camera. And I confess that the only reason I did not leave noseprints on the glass is because my eyes can't focus very well that close, but I did steam it up a bit. :-) My consort does not get to make fun of me because he was having similar geekstasies over the riveted mail hauberk in the next case over. The sleeve is very small, as if for a child, which leads one to speculate on whether it's shrunk over time or was that small to begin with. They don't have anything useful like measurements or anything in the cases, but at least the actual dimensions and other necessary and/or helpful pieces of information are in _Textiles and Clothing_ if one needs them. Once the slides have been developed, mine can be scanned and then hopefully more research can take place. Some other costumey stuff like the effigy of John Seymour (Jane Seymour's father) and the effigies of whomever is buried opposite Bishop Bekynton at Wells Cathedral (15th c, IIRC) and the effigy of some other guy in an Elizabethan ruff in some church somewhere (I have notes, don't worry!). Still swooning, Jen/Margaret _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 19:48:01 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8GNm0w2008163 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:48:01 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8GNls0C030264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:47:58 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GNlSVd020189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:47:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8GNlQOP007228; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:47:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.167]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8GNlLNe007121 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:47:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from elvestoorder@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49380 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2008 23:47:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mpm/BLMKmiiAix2SuOkVn0Nj49h/0+0HL4ykCTJegS5sYU3/SE3rqcnBAXBLwXbDcbAz7XYHO5zZdUGZnaJoHlXLstENdgFE9XsaMK/4VwYryCUfdkr7D7iqD/Enir9IqXrWCiUM7lnJQkG1zFfqlKf/1uYp9ZY1P38/aJd8BnU=; X-YMail-OSG: tr4ClF8VM1m_9d7QwSnGU9eb9ZcWM97NtKoQ9_wMqcvpbG__NuBo3HnxRHSMUO.D8m9Xp_6lbZT2Vb67XNzv4SFEqek7lcpUkkkX8pHOKJzREroyuG5y.KIQM0KMeSJ7ENqcLeMiL68xdtnJlN9xZvGD Received: from [69.182.208.254] by web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:47:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Catelli To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <357499.49339.qm@web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Finished Empire Gown X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 120f7966-de86-44ee-80d2-51c12e01ba84 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D045AA.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:47:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I had, alas, already added the nine inches; I pinned up a 4.5" hem, put on the dress, and pinned up as much again. Fortunately, it was just a slightly pleated rectangle, and easy to shorten as much as necessary. The generous scissors, guided by, "oh, make sure to allow for seams and hems and a bit (large) 'just in case'." ;p Ann in CT --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Gilbert wrote: > Resizing is challenging. You must be quite tall to have to > add 9 inches to the hem. > > Marjorie _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 21:47:54 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8H1lsBc012170 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:47:54 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8H1lleO028867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:47:51 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8H1l9UL030314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:47:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H1l7WK090463; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:47:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H1l3ot090368 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:47:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from monicaspence@optonline.net) Received: from your1a4d29f243 (ool-457fe76e.dyn.optonline.net [69.127.231.110]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0K7B00CNNGY89A41@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:46:53 -0400 From: monica spence In-reply-to: <200809161937.m8GJb3SZ072778@net.indra.com> To: Historical Costume Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b86718c2-9692-415f-b069-3f316e73ee02 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D061C3.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:47:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO It is called a scent cone. It is seen all over Egyptian art. It was wax with a scent. It did melt, giving off a pleasant smell. (Kind of an Airwick solid on your head.) Monica Fashion History teacher -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com]On Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:37 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? Hi, maybe there=B4s something in "The artifice of beauty" by Sally Pointer? I didn=B4t have the chance to read it yet, but at first glance it looked most promising. Hanna At 20:00 16.09.2008, you wrote: >Hi H-Cost! > >In grade school, I was told that pictures like >this >http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/womena6.jpg >showed ancient Egyptian women with perfumed wax >or fat on their heads, which melted over the >course of the evening, and smelled good. > >It recently came to mind again, and I've tried >to find citations for this, but all I can find >is people repeating it without providing any >other details. I thirst for a source! A good source! > >Really, it does seem ridiculous. Not just the >basic idea, but the consequences. First, you >get melted wax or fat in your wig. This is >probably difficult to clean out (although I >suppose you could just hand it to the servants >and not worry about it.) Next, the wax or oil >or fat gets all over your skin. This is a hot >country and being covered in oozing wax is >probably unpleasant, even if it smells nice. It >makes it hard to stay cool. Thirdly, all those >diaphanous pleated gowns would soon look like >the tail end of a wet T-shirt contest, which I >could understand being somewhat interesting for >half the population, but seems unlikely to be a popular fashion statement. > >But I could be totally off-base. Without any >kind of authority that I can find, though, I am frustrated. > >Any leads or suggestions? > >cv >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 16 22:02:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8H22wuV012772 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:02:58 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8H22qmD013202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:02:56 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8H1vaDL030949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:57:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H1vaGU096455; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:57:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from escobar.thibault.org (escobar.thibault.org [72.249.22.134]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H1vXSf096435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:57:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cvirtue@thibault.org) Received: from Cynthia-Virtues-Computer.local (c-71-232-126-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [71.232.126.138]) by escobar.thibault.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1618C249F4 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48D06408.4050206@thibault.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:57:28 -0400 From: Cynthia Virtue User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: f407cb7f-4306-46c0-a6fd-2d700a6fd656 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D0654C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:02:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO monica spence wrote: > It is called a scent cone. It is seen all over Egyptian art. It was wax with > a scent. It did melt, giving off a pleasant smell. (Kind of an Airwick solid > on your head.) > Monica > Fashion History teacher Right -- that's what all the web sources and various books seem to say, but they don't say *why* we think it was wax and scented. What I am hoping for is something from an archaeologist, or a translation of a contemporary text which talks about what the women are wearing on their heads. Without something solid like that, it could be just a myth invented by the Victorians, like chastity belts on everyone in the middle ages, shoes chained to knees and belts, and so on. cv _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 17 00:35:02 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8H4Z195018429 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:35:01 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8H4YtcC005767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:34:59 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8H4XaeR045236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:33:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H4XXWU000290; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:33:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H4XWLm000238 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:33:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ruth.finkwinter@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so27176815gxk.23 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:33:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index; bh=Sj1WdSewiAz1MA7V9Kj9bAEr7tHlRU3PO9+J0nk3Nwc=; b=sAwWWatzBBTb6imOsX+jMJ7O/UjJQpxmFpdynlfgkpV88VUPUtmCeTwH8qp2ao/zir XJOmPmZ4ieHApn5T/67pvnyRr+scOOUqgirXLbcJpJTQ6zhL3ObsGleuzv4GvS6JwBSW pQezZ3lszU0ik5nOB9I3Ei4tEb/g1n53RFBHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to :x-mimeole:thread-index; b=YQGhTQMHNhxhEPvm4l/v/EHiZuvnqF7P5WhpUMpKVQNBK6B6KmJMUb13uB4CGK79zl Bgj8utIE3m8EA8B7r4ZwaIqK3jC3ElTRLimxPjSIre/Ut1nWXAo2WvT775o/DXP/GEJo weKFxyXcnbTIXJ2QLb4tZXjNIehu/+U+tSUG4= Received: by 10.64.88.5 with SMTP id l5mr27088qbb.61.1221626007534; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owner0bccc5302 ( [24.14.119.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm1717827qbw.0.2008.09.16.21.33.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ruth FW" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:32:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AckYJmISEOgKb1dtTsWucMxHmX+iWgAV0tmQ X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2580ccb0-1635-4605-8a24-65cb47a12cb1 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D088EF.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:34:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I don't think you'll find anything to confirm that it's a wax cone; while I've read that too, I've also read discussions in KMT, "A Modern Journal of Ancient Egypt" (which tends to take a mixed scholarly/popular approach; the articles are all footnoted) noting that the idea of what the cones is simply speculation and has never been proven (by, say, an explicit description of people wearing them, actual stores of the cones, or even a wig with scented wax on it). I can't provide a citation, though I suppose that providing a citation stating "we don't know exactly what these are" isn't terribly useful. Sorry, Ruth -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cynthia Virtue Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? Hi H-Cost! In grade school, I was told that pictures like this http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/womena6.jpg showed ancient Egyptian women with perfumed wax or fat on their heads, which melted over the course of the evening, and smelled good. It recently came to mind again, and I've tried to find citations for this, but all I can find is people repeating it without providing any other details. I thirst for a source! A good source! Really, it does seem ridiculous. Not just the basic idea, but the consequences. First, you get melted wax or fat in your wig. This is probably difficult to clean out (although I suppose you could just hand it to the servants and not worry about it.) Next, the wax or oil or fat gets all over your skin. This is a hot country and being covered in oozing wax is probably unpleasant, even if it smells nice. It makes it hard to stay cool. Thirdly, all those diaphanous pleated gowns would soon look like the tail end of a wet T-shirt contest, which I could understand being somewhat interesting for half the population, but seems unlikely to be a popular fashion statement. But I could be totally off-base. Without any kind of authority that I can find, though, I am frustrated. Any leads or suggestions? cv _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 17 05:59:23 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8H9xMef005480 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:59:23 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8H9xHn9011672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:59:21 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8H9wtmT063777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:58:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H9wqnw084166; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:58:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from escobar.thibault.org (escobar.thibault.org [72.249.22.134]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8H9wm3H084124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:58:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cvirtue@thibault.org) Received: from Cynthia-Virtues-Computer.local (c-71-232-126-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [71.232.126.138]) by escobar.thibault.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53220249F0 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48D0D4D1.6070100@thibault.org> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:58:41 -0400 From: Cynthia Virtue User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <48CFF44E.3030203@thibault.org> In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egypt perfume/wax cones on head? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: bd40d29b-c978-4bf9-9342-8ece87c28ccd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48D0D4F5.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:59:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Ruth FW wrote: > I don't think you'll find anything to confirm that it's a wax cone; while > I've read that too, I've also read discussions in KMT, "A Modern Journal of > Ancient Egypt" (which tends to take a mixed scholarly/popular approach; the > articles are all footnoted) noting that the idea of what the cones is simply > speculation and has never been proven (by, say, an explicit description of > people wearing them, actual stores of the cones, or even a wig with scented > wax on it). Oh, this is actually useful, thank you! It confirms that it's speculation according to people who are interested in citations, which is definitely a step in the right direction. cv _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 19 23:10:45 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8K3Aind020058 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:10:44 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8K3Ac6I027645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:10:42 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8K3AE6s067750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:10:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K38phx038467; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:08:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.147]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K38n3V038390 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:08:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W45 ([65.54.161.145]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:08:44 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.203.65] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:08:43 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <04d001c9181c$c186aef0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> <04d001c9181c$c186aef0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 03:08:44.0386 (UTC) FILETIME=[30F72C20:01C91ACE] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 84bea9cc-e006-40f8-8df6-61e3e900fa5c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D469AE.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:10:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > From: landofoz@netins.net> To: h-costume@indra.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:53:33 -0500> Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > >> > 1) . Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this > > happening again? And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and > > weird to work with)?> >> > 2) I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, but how do I guess what > > color to overdye with to get what shade?> >> > Cut a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you want to evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc. Can you give a minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would be for this? > > Experiment, Experiment, Experiment. ;-)> Denise B > I guess I knew this wouldna be a stroll in the park. If only people would stop going into the hospital and having birthdays and auditions and all.... Thanks so much! Laurie _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 19 23:14:06 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8K3E6cg020232 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:06 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8K3E1Ko004355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:04 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8K3DkBe067883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:13:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K3CRwf040347; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:12:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.161]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K3CODw040282 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:12:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W44 ([65.54.161.144]) by bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:12:19 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.203.65] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:12:18 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <13C5576D0EA6470B8888E0663037E9D7@anteckim> References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> <13C5576D0EA6470B8888E0663037E9D7@anteckim> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 03:12:19.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0F57030:01C91ACE] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9dfe427f-86c9-453c-b8c7-71269aae836a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D46A79.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Indeed, That is one of the things I will do, but I am a belt and suspenders kind of person. Besides, this is my fourth child and I know that expecting one to read the label is mostly wishful thinking on my part! Laurie > > Why don't you just put in a label that says DRY CLEAN ONLY?> > Kim> _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Fri Sep 19 23:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8K3McrQ020579 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:22:38 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8K3MXxf009789 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:22:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8K3HIPm067983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:17:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K3Fx0B042129; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:15:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.174]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K3FvVc042070 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:15:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W39 ([65.54.161.139]) by bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:15:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.203.65] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:15:52 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 03:15:52.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FD94390:01C91ACF] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 8efab4a9-d690-412b-aacf-9a9d0d185b99 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D46C79.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:22:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > From: AlbertCat@aol.comThank you, that is the very first step, indeed! = Laurie = = = > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:49 -0400> To: h-costume@indra.com> Subject: = Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > > I suggest even before experime= nting, get a color wheel from an art shop so > you can better determine whe= re colors come from and how "far away" from your > goal you are to start wi= th. Also...have a specific goal. Get a color swatch.... > even paint chips = from the paint dept are good.... that is the final color > you want so you = have a firm goal to work towards.> > > = _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together=97at home, work, or on the= go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 07:34:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8KBYK6O026166 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:34:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8KBYFI2009912 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:34:18 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8KBXgJF094689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:33:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KBXdd9010228; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:33:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from cgp.netins.net (f2phy.netins.net [167.142.229.65]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KBXah8010202 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:33:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from landofoz@netins.net) X-netINS-MPP: scanned Received: from [67.55.167.47] (account landofoz@netins.net HELO denise8541f2db) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 1793378322 for h-costume@indra.com; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:33:31 -0500 Message-ID: <00e101c91b14$b1e8a700$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> From: "Land of Oz" To: "Historical Costume" References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> <04d001c9181c$c186aef0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:33:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9f43506b-f518-47f0-a148-766a79c8302b X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D4DFB7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:34:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO >> > Cut a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you >> > want to evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc. > > > > Can you give a minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would > be for this? > If it were me, I'd use a square foot *minimum* -- a square yard would be better if you can manage it. If the shape remains relatively even and smooth, you can either cut smaller pattern pieces from it, or use it to make a matching hat or mittens or both. Denise _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 11:41:13 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8KFfDa1007117 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:41:13 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8KFf6A6009159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:41:10 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8KFehO2011009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:40:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KFedpt066558; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:40:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.146]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KFea1J066471 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:40:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W55 ([65.54.161.155]) by bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:39:37 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.177.174] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:39:36 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00e101c91b14$b1e8a700$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> References: <22732134.1221574226146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><9EBAF97E7FD54AA58F4D691A41BD14B2@Gilbert> <04d001c9181c$c186aef0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> <00e101c91b14$b1e8a700$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 15:39:37.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[1673D150:01C91B37] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a09b8ce4-66f8-4ee3-a330-80f5e20db436 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D51993.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:41:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO That was my thought as well. It must be right then, lol. Thanks again, Laurie> From: landofoz@netins.net> To: h-costume@indra.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:33:23 -0500> Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > > >> > Cut a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you > >> > want to evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc.> >> >> >> > Can you give a minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would > > be for this?> >> > If it were me, I'd use a square foot *minimum* -- a square yard would be > better if you can manage it. If the shape remains relatively even and > smooth, you can either cut smaller pattern pieces from it, or use it to make > a matching hat or mittens or both.> > Denise > > _______________________________________________> h-costume mailing list> h-costume@mail.indra.com> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 15:16:28 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8KJGSPN016690 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:16:28 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8KJGMN4000983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:16:26 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8KJG09c023358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:16:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KJFvoj090265; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:15:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.219]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KJFtQR090201 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:15:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bear_janet@msn.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([10.4.13.94]) by bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:15:49 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 71.116.59.125 by bl124fd.blu124.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.116.59.125] X-Originating-Email: [bear_janet@msn.com] X-Sender: bear_janet@msn.com In-Reply-To: <00e101c91b14$b1e8a700$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" To: h-costume@indra.com Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 19:15:50.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B068B60:01C91B55] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: e51c4adb-4c4d-4993-bf0b-be4ec57f7648 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D54C06.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:16:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care about anything after 1650!) Janet _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 17:11:47 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8KLBlcp021725 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:47 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8KLBgd4000511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:45 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8KLBDEg029593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:11:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KLBBbI058521; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:11:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8KLBATG058464 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:11:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from exstock@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so1797676gxk.23 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Vj3ERhJQ6HYFzShZrcgKk4pg+UAgtMmNdwEfCQVT8i8=; b=elmOSNtksQM3bJas21qIYbyCCFtk3i76/7Wkn5fDj1xFNlMRNSkmSS7ID9HWE+iObV eH+4JUatJ+/jFAmP8taog3YCCt9QouWxF8ptzotyPooAMsvwthQUkZ5HsAO3gkJAD1kv fHI9+k7VIMTc7vz7hcoU49rYElDO0pFv3nmBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=VHKoeg3slmNXBMQ7HZkTnf+HD20gqbvDOotv08faeg7odom0vas1D1xhSq2w5QHAym caf6EmuF3DvNEYkJkMgQ8mgE+SntZGK5hiQ1gVKiyvh1UQy3seGbg7NoC67eTKPaT6nu dgfKVdqGVuQrRlJc47x6OwHnNKCot7Ti0RtAk= Received: by 10.100.96.9 with SMTP id t9mr1556199anb.66.1221945064996; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.7 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9ec4d8740809201411n602d03eel947e8f4455e2ba50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 From: "Elena House" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00e101c91b14$b1e8a700$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: da43bf3a-4f0e-4b37-9e03-dac82898f33c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48D5670E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my corset groups? -E House On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 22:53:14 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8L2rDwX032734 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:53:14 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8L2r7Ye010641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:53:11 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8L2qfK5046082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:52:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8L2qc5C023752; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:52:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.240]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8L2qZZU023698 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:52:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bear_janet@msn.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([10.4.13.93]) by bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:52:30 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 71.116.37.156 by bl124fd.blu124.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.116.37.156] X-Originating-Email: [bear_janet@msn.com] X-Sender: bear_janet@msn.com From: "JAMES OGILVIE" To: h-costume@indra.com Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2008 02:52:30.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[16B0EAA0:01C91B95] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 746b1d8a-d836-4975-b574-b2c11e39eaf3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D5B713.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:53:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. Of course you may forward the e-mails. Janet _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 20 23:29:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8L3TAQF001343 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:29:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8L3T5OR018196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:29:08 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8L3SHR2048128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8L3SGEB039277; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8L3SB5i039198 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF7313C667 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:28:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48D5CD36.7000608@reddawn.net> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 8a998110-eaea-46be-bbc7-33cc9e964a07 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D5BF81.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a couple weeks now. Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 21 09:57:55 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8LDvstJ001368 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:57:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8LDvk2o030725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:57:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8LDv8sA078820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:57:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LDv5Ij010642; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:57:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LDv26e010562 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:57:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.bed.2cb50e3e (14502) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d6ceb47a-32eb-4918-91df-58d4397c7339 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D652DA.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:57:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll corsets. And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back "spread sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? 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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 21 12:21:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8LGLxBF006509 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:21:59 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8LGLrYL027349 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:21:57 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8LGLYEu094883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:21:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LGLXwq000175; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:21:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LGLUOi000107 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:21:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so2186302gxk.23 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kdgObAbon06v89zHeiV3EAcUt1A38wnIrP0B+CSwY8w=; b=cUOuKH1HiXftMvYcIlx6lchvNeXVTFu6Ya0Mlu7tybk6PtkHrs1e2rBbbfkaql9wOx 3ZKnPyZbZs88KYu449v0B/BBFwU7w4ehdytOnIR+OZ83qn09pjw6bIBFeJGC91emxWnB hGz2BftbR8m1PMEWRdldTNRnnhAml3mzw/0RA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ng+Q1VdUY5aXffNyo1OOL6LEeGZKzM7q4FXEuflm5PqiFzdk3OYjfOxihYtdQANw2o iE7JHEMmq028264B9ABXdeay8TyfRAikXYjmReZCz+1PrzTRncmX0aPBYtgY8g5kwj31 Umuu4NToQVrbsQqJddRsUKpMQ+31VXxzGA1Qg= Received: by 10.90.66.14 with SMTP id o14mr3209777aga.15.1222014085628; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 061e6cbc-62fe-4972-b96e-0b329ad578c4 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D674A1.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:21:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? please? pretty please? alex -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 21 12:57:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8LGvrln007638 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:53 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8LGvlGv011102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:51 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8LGvMB5097403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:57:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LGvKsY020164; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:57:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.202]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LGvGKa020057 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:57:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ladyepaige@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.61.81]) by bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:57:11 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:57:10 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 71.241.234.141 by BAY102-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:57:10 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.241.234.141] X-Originating-Email: [ladyepaige@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ladyepaige@hotmail.com From: "paige" To: "Historical Costume" References: <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2008 16:57:10.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[16C97810:01C91C0B] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 44f1e2e3-cfb3-4bb1-8d86-ab128743747c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D67D0B.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 21 14:21:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8LIL9JN010540 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:21:09 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8LIL3B1003985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:21:07 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8LIJQuZ008802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:19:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LIJO5s070947; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:19:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from viefep19-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LIJKGk070845 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from manon@enterharmony.nl) Received: from edge04.upc.biz ([192.168.13.239]) by viefep19-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20080921181913.TNZU18262.viefep19-int.chello.at@edge04.upc.biz> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:19:13 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([77.249.72.29]) by edge04.upc.biz with edge id HWK91a02K0dueEd04WKDqi; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:19:13 +0200 X-SourceIP: 77.249.72.29 Message-ID: <48D69016.1060001@enterharmony.nl> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:19:02 +0200 From: Manon Antoinette User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h-costume@indra.com References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] corset book by Jill Salen X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 0a0f04d1-41ec-42dc-8303-88fa5e13bea3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D6908F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Thank you Janet for the information about the new book. It is quite easy to find! Amazon has it, Abebooks has it and so does my local bookshop. Just ordered it, sounds very interesting, my interests are about 1790 and up (until 1918). Especially the section about flossing sounds interesting. Regards, Manon Antoinette h-costume-request@indra.com schreef: > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > h-costume-request@mail.indra.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) > 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) > 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) > 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) > 7. Re: corsets (paige) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 > From: "Elena House" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > <9ec4d8740809201411n602d03eel947e8f4455e2ba50@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my > corset groups? > > -E House > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > > >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, > which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also > the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor > Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > Of course you may forward the e-mails. > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: Historical Costume > Message-ID: <48D5CD36.7000608@reddawn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" >> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> > > I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal > with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. > > I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a > couple weeks now. > > > > > Dawn > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT > From: AlbertCat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on > a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine > made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll corsets. > And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back "spread > sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 > From: "Alexandria Doyle" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > >> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... >> > > Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? > please? pretty please? > > alex > > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sun Sep 21 16:55:13 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8LKtCln016242 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:55:12 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8LKt6KI019849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:55:10 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8LKsl2d020641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:54:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LKsiJZ052602; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:54:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8LKsfjH052540 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:54:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Debloughcostumes@aol.com) Received: from Debloughcostumes@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d42.243a8af9 (42808) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Debloughcostumes@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:54:22 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c67c94ae-1e1e-4a7f-a41f-5690d4f8133c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D6B4AA.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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I just came across this site and thought the work was really wonderful.....http://www.in-nova-corpora.ch/index.htm _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 09:04:15 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MD4Ffn005969 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:04:15 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MD47uY019039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:04:11 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MD3Wcs072201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:03:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MD3TbD032996; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:03:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from estamail.org (estamail.org [209.216.253.175]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MD3PT2032941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:03:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mmbennett@esta.org) Received: (qmail 16351 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2008 05:56:54 -0700 Received: from static-64-115-141-181.isp.broadviewnet.net (HELO Meredith) (64.115.141.181) by with SMTP; 22 Sep 2008 05:56:53 -0700 From: "Meredith Moseley-Bennett" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckcE3BAT7rTBxw1R96ciCUofrudrAAn+mkg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 5bf3cd5f-ab55-498b-9fe9-6b9d6cf90afd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D797C7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Thanks, Meredith Moseley-Bennett Certification Coordinator Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 NYC, NY 10001 Phone: 212.244.1505 Fax: 212.244.1502 -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-request@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." Today's Topics: 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) 7. Re: corsets (paige) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 From: "JAMES OGILVIE" Subject: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care about anything after 1650!) Janet ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 From: "Elena House" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: <9ec4d8740809201411n602d03eel947e8f4455e2ba50@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my corset groups? -E House On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 From: "JAMES OGILVIE" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. Of course you may forward the e-mails. Janet ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 From: Dawn Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: Historical Costume Message-ID: <48D5CD36.7000608@reddawn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific > Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because > they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" > and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a couple weeks now. Dawn ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT From: AlbertCat@aol.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll corsets. And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back "spread sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? please? pretty please? alex -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 From: "paige" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 12:27:36 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MGRZDL014424 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:35 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MGRR7A027446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:31 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MGQxIp091327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:26:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MGQuZQ015829; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:26:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8MGQrml015758 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:26:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from unicorn@surewest.net) Received: (qmail 7788 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2008 09:26:42 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7778, pid: 7785, t: 0.2050s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO Alfheim) (216.93.209.50) by smtp1 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2008 09:26:42 -0700 From: "Joan Broneske" To: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:26:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ackc0ADapHlKDazmRTyosbL33Nl1QQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d594dc87-0ddd-4b04-a198-0d6556c6e319 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D7C770.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, get-togethers, etc.) I will soon find myself living out there and would like to hook up with other costumers in the area. Thanks, Joan Primmar-Broneske _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 12:59:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MGxilI016025 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:59:44 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MGxYYQ010547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:59:38 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MGxEb9094495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:59:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MGxDJf046291; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:59:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MGxBUe046265 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:59:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from katybishop64@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so1573173rvb.11 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QsreTLGuucCPS71C0wYwzpF7KiNk1xumh6hTKWMJugQ=; b=NorBkkWLAGM0t7nQjGn5D9zejAojY7MRAlQrk7c1M/uOGNNTMg8ZlyfLS+2YxVFG+P yLNWUsCLbQZc25rS5xEkiit3C8SYwZQw39MIFf2NkqECqbHzv5gu1JRroUzcqMxgRmwP 1WHOlSIKyZo5SohecCNVeniaa2VIQ9J3wwQvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qQT6gH3YDnwb8fPsDRjYkDIdqQKgeY4DprUeGeBw/eT7uPDm+M4RBFIkOgfaYuj/mi AVtKAtTlgz5kJ/l65L/sTZkYWmBvVtFMV2ot/6sRnSF+SEvT7pstxBCbnDroGQla8OpF /++Dbahz285NHZSuIZURLQGF7snkHQGAw4lo4= Received: by 10.141.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr2109421rvp.240.1222102751196; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.145.8 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3586f5070809220959m2f03b542t1a98add56ba973d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:59:11 -0400 From: "Katy Bishop" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 599fd643-121e-4db1-9d96-0eb445d8cf39 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D7CEF6.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:59:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO There is an active Vintage Dance community to too far away from that area. http://www.trianglevintagedance.com/ They could probably recommend costuming groups, and give you events to wear costumes to if you like the 19th and early 20th centuries. Katy On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Joan Broneske wrote: > I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, > or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, > get-togethers, etc.) I will soon find myself living out there and would like > to hook up with other costumers in the area. > > Thanks, > > Joan Primmar-Broneske > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybishop64@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 13:28:07 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MHS7QL017092 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:28:07 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MHS0aD031669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:28:04 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MHRSQc097578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:27:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MHRPRE075066; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:27:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.163]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MHRMCg074930 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:27:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from zeartiste@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY109-W15 ([64.4.19.115]) by bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:27:17 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.220.155.148] From: Becky Rautine To: Historical Costume Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:27:17 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2008 17:27:17.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[76101950:01C91CD8] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 78fadd4d-d930-4eee-9ea8-f8b438775c91 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D7D5A0.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:28:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I know that Simplicity has one that is very easy to make and might be cheaper than renting at most places. I'd be willing to help make it if you get the material or send me the money to get it here. Let me know if you'd consider that option. we can discuss it. We did Into the Woods several years ago....and I don't remember a cow. But then I was backstage doing makeup and didn't see it all either. My daughter was only a month old then. They used her for the baker's baby in the last scene. She played a boy and loved the singing. They used a crying track since she wouldn't cry when they sang to her. It shocked the whole audience when the princess turned her around and she moved. It was a great effect. I was so proud. My older daughter, age 16, was the voice of the Giant's wife. The first time the idea of using her as the baby happened the night before the show opened. The girl playing the princess handed the boy who was the baker my baby. He froze. He kept saying his lines but he didn't move. We stopped the practice. He'd never held a baby so we practiced. He got good at it. In the second night of the show, Elizabeth did fuss and the princess came over and too her from the baker. He looked so hurt and the audience loved it. I love doing plays, costumes, props, makeup and sets. Let me know if I can help out. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine ---------------------------------------- > From: mmbennett@esta.org > To: h-costume@indra.com > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 > Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods > > My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is > looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent > one? > Thanks, > > Meredith Moseley-Bennett > Certification Coordinator > Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP > 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 > NYC, NY 10001 > Phone: 212.244.1505 > Fax: 212.244.1502 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On > Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM > To: h-costume@mail.indra.com > Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > h-costume-request@mail.indra.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) > 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) > 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) > 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) > 7. Re: corsets (paige) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 > From: "Elena House" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my > corset groups? > > -E House > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, > which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also > the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor > Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > Of course you may forward the e-mails. > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: Historical Costume > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" >> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal > with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. > > I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a > couple weeks now. > > > > > Dawn > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT > From: AlbertCat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on > > a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine > made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll > corsets. > And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back > "spread > sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 > From: "Alexandria Doyle" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... > > Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? > please? pretty please? > > alex > > > -- > "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you > know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, > injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's > Friday..." ;) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 > From: "paige" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 14:35:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MIZXd9019596 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:35:33 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MIXw9b028303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:34:47 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MIXK8Z004237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:33:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MIXI3I042560; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:33:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MIXG0T042510 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:33:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from anne.montgomerie@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so604150nfb.41 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:33:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AapnuhZFU1+sXLd1VxfkIPWaQygCPwJH8bjlLsLSbPA=; b=liaK5rdXf5tDHLANVme5omweYfZVu/SN2sDWuaSAMGym3pvsochjclg1XMgoCoctjO FfE2XzcVtsghI/5SvdznPbqPn328yUGx3NOyMs8Fo6ZHmh7A+gYI8qNbMbWm4DWef+kO rFw+r5Tn5IHhRWg1K9NqylDD00YdDU/erT/PM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sZBeL6Wt0IHtsqA9N41KlpXxcbz3WO3AB2N6K6TPIUyBA914pxypYRSgUmEFRJRFdT cfLFGbkLvJdPI78908H+pXrWWiHJuBFWxkBvqdyeZ7RvWICAunQ1d1FaxMkk3JNzK5IE tjQ+ySoP8HRnNxZ53VaCt56HGjJ4UW4WqT6Ek= Received: by 10.210.37.16 with SMTP id k16mr485354ebk.155.1222108395725; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? (5ac5d0ac.bb.sky.com [90.197.208.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm834589gve.8.2008.09.22.11.33.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48D7E4E4.3080503@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:33:08 +0100 From: Anne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080708 Thunderbird/2.0.0.16 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d8011cc5-84b8-4ace-a4df-41d9058b37b1 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48D7E517.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:34:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO We built for Into the Woods this summer - there is definitely a cow, but ours was moulded out of insulation foam and papier mache, rather than using an actor. I believe Jack has to take her to market. JEan Becky Rautine wrote: > I know that Simplicity has one that is very easy to make and might be cheaper than renting at most places. I'd be willing to help make it if you get the material or send me the money to get it here. Let me know if you'd consider that option. we can discuss it. > We did Into the Woods several years ago....and I don't remember a cow. But then I was backstage doing makeup and didn't see it all either. My daughter was only a month old then. They used her for the baker's baby in the last scene. She played a boy and loved the singing. They used a crying track since she wouldn't cry when they sang to her. It shocked the whole audience when the princess turned her around and she moved. It was a great effect. I was so proud. My older daughter, age 16, was the voice of the Giant's wife. > The first time the idea of using her as the baby happened the night before the show opened. The girl playing the princess handed the boy who was the baker my baby. He froze. He kept saying his lines but he didn't move. We stopped the practice. He'd never held a baby so we practiced. He got good at it. In the second night of the show, Elizabeth did fuss and the princess came over and too her from the baker. He looked so hurt and the audience loved it. I love doing plays, costumes, props, makeup and sets. Let me know if I can help out. > > > Sincerely, > Rebecca Rautine > > ---------------------------------------- > >> From: mmbennett@esta.org >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 >> Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods >> >> My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is >> looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent >> one? >> Thanks, >> >> Meredith Moseley-Bennett >> Certification Coordinator >> Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP >> 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 >> NYC, NY 10001 >> Phone: 212.244.1505 >> Fax: 212.244.1502 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On >> Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM >> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com >> Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> >> Send h-costume mailing list submissions to >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> h-costume-request@mail.indra.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) >> 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) >> 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) >> 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) >> 7. Re: corsets (paige) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 >> From: "Elena House" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my >> corset groups? >> >> -E House >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> >> >>> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >>> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >>> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >>> about anything after 1650!) >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> h-costume mailing list >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, >> which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also >> the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor >> Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> >> Of course you may forward the e-mails. >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 >> From: Dawn >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: Historical Costume >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> >>> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >>> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >>> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" >>> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >>> >> I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal >> with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. >> >> I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a >> couple weeks now. >> >> >> >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT >> From: AlbertCat@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on >> >> a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine >> made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll >> corsets. >> And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back >> "spread >> sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips >> and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 >> From: "Alexandria Doyle" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >> >>> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... >>> >> Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? >> please? pretty please? >> >> alex >> >> >> -- >> "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you >> know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, >> injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's >> Friday..." ;) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 >> From: "paige" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> >> End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 15:08:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MJ8qCl020877 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:08:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MJ8jWb025735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:08:49 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MJ3eb5007170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:03:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJ3dD1072777; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:03:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.171]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJ3Z5v072667 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:03:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from zeartiste@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY109-W15 ([64.4.19.115]) by bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.220.155.148] From: Becky Rautine To: Historical Costume Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:03:34 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2008 19:03:33.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8F8D580:01C91CE5] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 29d9f0b3-29bd-4acb-b067-e5da452c4b4e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48D7ED3D.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:08:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Now I remember the cow we had. One of the boys kept knocking it over. IT was on wheels to help it off but after a few moves, it didn't want to roll so the boy just picked it up and walked off with it under his arm. It was funny. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine ---------------------------------------- > From: mmbennett@esta.org > To: h-costume@indra.com > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 > Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods > > My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is > looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent > one? > Thanks, > > Meredith Moseley-Bennett > Certification Coordinator > Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP > 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 > NYC, NY 10001 > Phone: 212.244.1505 > Fax: 212.244.1502 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On > Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM > To: h-costume@mail.indra.com > Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > h-costume-request@mail.indra.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) > 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) > 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) > 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) > 7. Re: corsets (paige) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 > From: "Elena House" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my > corset groups? > > -E House > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, > which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also > the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor > Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > Of course you may forward the e-mails. > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: Historical Costume > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" >> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal > with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. > > I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a > couple weeks now. > > > > > Dawn > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT > From: AlbertCat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on > > a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine > made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll > corsets. > And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back > "spread > sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 > From: "Alexandria Doyle" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... > > Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? > please? pretty please? > > alex > > > -- > "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you > know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, > injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's > Friday..." ;) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 > From: "paige" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 15:09:07 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MJ97gL020886 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:09:07 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MJ8xM3013898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:09:03 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MJ2RJG006991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:02:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJ2RUe071528; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:02:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from pptgw2.mccc.edu (pptgw2.mccc.edu [198.133.170.234]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJ2NSC071399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:02:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from pinnerk@mccc.edu) Received: from mail02.mccc.edu (mail02.mccc.edu [198.133.170.206]) by pptgw2.mccc.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8MDNVXw013869 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:23:31 -0700 Received: from pinnerkd620 ([172.16.85.131]) by mcccmail.mccc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K7M0065727RRHA0@mcccmail.mccc.edu> for h-costume@indra.com; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:02:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kate Pinner To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <48D7E4E4.3080503@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:02:14 -0400 Message-id: <10D5164D08644043B9DA2B9F8D3AE686@WWC.MCCC.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <48D7E4E4.3080503@googlemail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-index: Ackc4b2L+m1pKiyxSFmRUo/1Gk4xDwAA5eug X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5.2.00 definitions=5388 signatures=469774 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2fd594a0-2833-495b-8432-507952f65cd6 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D7ED4B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:09:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On Broadway it was an obviously fake cow (can be either a cut out or sculpted) on wheels that Jack pulls along with him. Kate -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods We built for Into the Woods this summer - there is definitely a cow, but ours was moulded out of insulation foam and papier mache, rather than using an actor. I believe Jack has to take her to market. JEan Becky Rautine wrote: > I know that Simplicity has one that is very easy to make and might be cheaper than renting at most places. I'd be willing to help make it if you get the material or send me the money to get it here. Let me know if you'd consider that option. we can discuss it. > We did Into the Woods several years ago....and I don't remember a cow. But then I was backstage doing makeup and didn't see it all either. My daughter was only a month old then. They used her for the baker's baby in the last scene. She played a boy and loved the singing. They used a crying track since she wouldn't cry when they sang to her. It shocked the whole audience when the princess turned her around and she moved. It was a great effect. I was so proud. My older daughter, age 16, was the voice of the Giant's wife. > The first time the idea of using her as the baby happened the night before the show opened. The girl playing the princess handed the boy who was the baker my baby. He froze. He kept saying his lines but he didn't move. We stopped the practice. He'd never held a baby so we practiced. He got good at it. In the second night of the show, Elizabeth did fuss and the princess came over and too her from the baker. He looked so hurt and the audience loved it. I love doing plays, costumes, props, makeup and sets. Let me know if I can help out. > > > Sincerely, > Rebecca Rautine > > ---------------------------------------- > >> From: mmbennett@esta.org >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 >> Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods >> >> My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and >> is looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where >> she can rent one? >> Thanks, >> >> Meredith Moseley-Bennett >> Certification Coordinator >> Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP >> 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 >> NYC, NY 10001 >> Phone: 212.244.1505 >> Fax: 212.244.1502 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com >> [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of >> h-costume-request@indra.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM >> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com >> Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> >> Send h-costume mailing list submissions to >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> h-costume-request@mail.indra.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) >> 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) >> 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) >> 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) >> 7. Re: corsets (paige) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource >> for those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I >> don't care about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 >> From: "Elena House" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of >> my corset groups? >> >> -E House >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> >> >>> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >>> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource >>> for those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I >>> don't care about anything after 1650!) >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> h-costume mailing list >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's >> Assistant" and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> >> Of course you may forward the e-mails. >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 >> From: Dawn >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: Historical Costume >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> >>> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >>> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >>> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" >>> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >>> >> I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal >> with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. >> >> I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in >> just a couple weeks now. >> >> >> >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT >> From: AlbertCat@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting >> patterns, on >> >> a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a >> machine made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even >> some doll corsets. >> And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back >> "spread sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like >> embroidery. >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life >> financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and >> information, tips and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 >> From: "Alexandria Doyle" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >> >>> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... >>> >> Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? >> please? pretty please? >> >> alex >> >> >> -- >> "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you >> know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, >> injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's >> Friday..." ;) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 >> From: "paige" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 >> US >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> >> End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 15:35:07 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MJZ63I022094 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:35:06 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MJYxBe023582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:35:02 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MJYY9r009813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:34:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJYVUg003126; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:34:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJYTQu003089 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:34:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from strangesam1977@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1374052fge.11 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date:references:from; bh=uIv+3Sw317QO+glAjpiCQ77HP9kq10OmGGHyyBXHEno=; b=XzzHSBx1McB/vGCbt7ZwDGJtbVn1okTgleNvbqa3xF+pWYzp9tPMG21ocWVaK/IJSn xuq9aHW33O2JxmEs5glY89aGqQHQd57OvAbOiHIruFRzVqAcoFqwAsK+mqr5D/1zmixf YlmNSVGKOWHH4YmhcSI4pBpg1R56OOXOAgl20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:references:from; b=TsVfYzaOLAiGspprq+x0OPHfgSseRGFsl9evapXqaowKKp+M5eirvx74RhpsloSVLg ub4WZckl0XBsZbQNESq6UQSOMIPYuES9ZYervN2kJGrBJhwP/rZKlTzvK3W/sjS3LU9Y WvTonYO60TNuf5kn9XnZQHLaRpntkPIJYv5Tw= Received: by 10.181.34.1 with SMTP id m1mr2849620bkj.85.1222112068889; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.44.165.25? ( [82.132.136.195]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm5083107nfh.2.2008.09.22.12.34.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <33274121-0E6A-423C-ADD0-0035A742EEDA@gmail.com> To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5F136) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5F136) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:34:02 +0100 References: From: Sam X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c31ad8b6-5d9d-484b-957d-9ef8175fbca9 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D7F363.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:35:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I saw a very good cow costume made from one of those white paper hooded suits you can buy for messy diy, a black marker pen, a pink rubber glove and some cardboard horns and hooves. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Sep 2008, at 20:03, Becky Rautine wrote: > > Now I remember the cow we had. One of the boys kept knocking it > over. IT was on wheels to help it off but after a few moves, it > didn't want to roll so the boy just picked it up and walked off with > it under his arm. It was funny. > > > Sincerely, > Rebecca Rautine > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: mmbennett@esta.org >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 >> Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods >> >> My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and >> is >> looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she >> can rent >> one? >> Thanks, >> >> Meredith Moseley-Bennett >> Certification Coordinator >> Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP >> 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 >> NYC, NY 10001 >> Phone: 212.244.1505 >> Fax: 212.244.1502 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- >> bounces@indra.com] On >> Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM >> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com >> Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> >> Send h-costume mailing list submissions to >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> h-costume-request@mail.indra.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) >> 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) >> 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) >> 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) >> 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) >> 7. Re: corsets (paige) >> >> >> --- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great >> resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I >> don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 >> From: "Elena House" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of >> my >> corset groups? >> >> -E House >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >>> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great >>> resource for >>> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I >>> don't care >>> about anything after 1650!) >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> h-costume mailing list >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 >> From: "JAMES OGILVIE" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite >> Specific Media, >> which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they >> are also >> the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The >> Tudor >> Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> >> Of course you may forward the e-mails. >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 >> From: Dawn >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: Historical Costume >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >>> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific >>> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because >>> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's >>> Assistant" >>> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> >> I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal >> with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. >> >> I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in >> just a >> couple weeks now. >> >> >> >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT >> From: AlbertCat@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: h-costume@indra.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting >> patterns, on >> >> a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a >> machine >> made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some >> doll >> corsets. >> And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back >> "spread >> sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like >> embroidery. >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life >> financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and >> information, tips >> and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001 >> ) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 >> From: "Alexandria Doyle" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >>> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... >> >> Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? >> please? pretty please? >> >> alex >> >> >> -- >> "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you >> know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, >> injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's >> Friday..." ;) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 >> From: "paige" >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at >> $25.20 US >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> >> End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with > Windows Live. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 15:50:39 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MJod56022873 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:50:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MJoYC2000832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:50:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MJoDf9011127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:50:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MJoDBs017891; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:50:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.171]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8MJo9sf017766 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:50:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mary_m_haselbauer@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41461 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2008 19:50:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FrG3BA5KHgikA9nbk3PoCPCmVVBvYN2QHXAzMiwhAAXe5W7Kpwwvr4J2lBKyEPZzCAKHH/14/nfqFg6g7MnOSc0j+8vv/ezCnavFifuegZAhhgbPsE9Pb9cABDZK25ldai/Xg3lhgC8e7c1XywP/JMiewOvPS9nuk6yY8at2FJ0=; X-YMail-OSG: glZIK0MVM1nFR8jxxJYpORDNhpk3M7yOw6I5Zg0u9HqfPfgFEMaSLWMKpGY4DUZwlFxbkrpXMojBtc9GvGfxmbgUQHSPzkZIv3R6hagYP5bGwGZFi9Qi63L1ugBHYw3ySdJ0C7M- Received: from [67.152.147.20] by web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:50:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary To: h-costume@mail.indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <185532.33725.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Please trim posts! 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:50:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO The last digest was 29 pages long when pasted into Word and only had 15 lines of new content in 4 posts. Please! I'm not a mod or anything just having a frustrating email day. Mary _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 16:56:18 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MKuH9G027241 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:17 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MKuBHM004417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:15 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MKtYjR016846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:55:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MKtWaB078528; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:55:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MKtTmS078421 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:55:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lilinah@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=AsE1OS3tbI8SsW6YbHDG6y7R3BA07FWdkDHY009nYHyKEdMXkTNHIo8U6agklQJT; h=Received:Mime-Version:X-Sender:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.244.30.53] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KhsRH-000598-24 for h-costume@indra.com; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:55:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lilinah@earthlink.net@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:55:11 -0700 To: h-costume@indra.com From: Lilinah X-ELNK-Trace: 26084e7e73656b25d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f5237572075f83f2b69c26b60f9c0bdc0d8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.244.30.53 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 344 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ab343b00-175f-4c40-a45e-cf8087e004db X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D8066B.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Dear Listees: I usually change the header of a digest to the subject line of the message i'm answering. But this time i'm referring to the whole digest. [note: in the following message a few words are in ALL CAPS. That is for emphasis. I am not shouting.] Please do not top post. Top posting means copying the original message without editing and then typing in your response "on top" of that post. Please edit the posts you reply to and include ONLY the parts relevant to your response. That is common netiquette. The digest in my subject line (Digest, Vol 7, Issue 344) had ONLY 4 messages in it. And EVERY ONE included the ENTIRETY of a previous digest - that's the same digest over and over and over and over, four times, in one digest. At least one person included the whole of Digest Issue 342 in their message. That was an accident. Accidents happen. I can shrug off that sort of accident. Then one or two people replied and included the whole of Digest Issue 342 in their responses. So when the original and the two responses showed up in Issue 343, i got to see Issue 342 three times. And now in Digest 344 i get to see the whole digest 4 more times, as people respond to the follow-up messages. Mistakes can happen. That accounts for the first time. I can excuse that. But it cannot account for all SIX of the other times people resent the same Digest. No one needs to see the same entire digest EIGHT times. Please do not top post. Most e-mail clients and most on-line e-mail websites allow you to edit messages. Yes, there's the occasional one that doesn't, but by far most do. Please edit the posts you reply to and include ONLY the parts relevant to your response. Even with a message of ordinary length, the whole of it rarely needs to be included on a reply. And if for some reason someone feels that an e-mail message is inviolate, certainly one can remove extraneous footers, sig lines (unless that's your topic), advertisements, other appended messages, entire digests, etc. Thank you, Cranky Anahita _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 18:53:08 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MMr8Sw031613 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:53:08 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MMr15L013500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:53:05 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MMqQZK026504 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:52:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MMqNVm080815; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:52:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MMqKsb080702 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:52:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cdf.39509da9 (39331) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:51:52 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c07a9fca-40d1-4375-a5b7-30b7158a8624 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48D821CD.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:53:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/21/2008 12:27:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, garbaholic@gmail.com writes: Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? please? pretty please? ******************** There are 2 19th century doll's corsets in the book. The earliest one is 1820-1840 and is white cotton? linen? with a gusset at the bust. It's like 4 1/4" CF and CB and about 11" around just under the armseye and 8" at the waist. The other is from the late 19th century and is made up in Prussian blue silk with off white binding and flossing. It has a split busk. It is cut like a "French" corset, in 5 shaped pieces making up each stay (10 in all). It's really pretty and is about 6 1/2 CF and 6" CB. The waist is 10 3/4". It looks like a miniature sample from a corset company. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 19:09:54 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8MN9sdb032383 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:09:54 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8MN9kIo023536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:09:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MN9Wi9027635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:09:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MN9W2E098442; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:09:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m13.mail.aol.com (imo-m13.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.101]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8MN9RK8098315 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:09:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cda.3b15c353 (39331) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:09:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:09:19 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: cf2f3e5d-2ae7-4b59-94e7-da2ffc74444a X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D825BA.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:09:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 9/22/2008 1:00:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybishop64@gmail.com writes: I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, > or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, > get-togethers, etc.) The North Carolina School of the Arts is there. Be sure to check out their productions. They have the costume shop from Heaven there....and the hugest scene shop I've ever seen. Anyway, they often come up with interesting productions in theatre, dance and opera/ music. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 20:23:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8N0NA4d002669 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:23:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8N0N204008922 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:23:05 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8N0MWBM031492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N0MVPN050741; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N0MScg050669 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from CC2010Milw@cs.com) Received: from CC2010Milw@cs.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cab.368f1e7f (41809) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:22:16 -0400 (EDT) From: CC2010Milw@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:22:16 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Shameless plug X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9552d91b-5dee-44c3-bde8-c87093996303 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48D836E6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Henry Osier Chief Spy Costume-Con 28 in Milwaukee in 2010 www.CC28.org View the latest Intell: http://agent-milw.livejournal.com/ Questions?: http://community.livejournal.com/costume_con_28/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 22 23:32:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8N3Wqf8009154 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:53 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8N3WlQE002224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8N3WHUC041978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:32:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N3WD4A068591; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:32:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8N3WAd3068555 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:32:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from unicorn@surewest.net) Received: (qmail 1793 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2008 20:32:03 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 1637, pid: 1728, t: 9.4187s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO Alfheim) (216.93.209.50) by smtp1 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2008 20:31:53 -0700 From: "Joan Broneske" To: "'Historical Costume'" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:31:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckdCIetY0tzBFRkQ2ia8NDdLTmapwAJEzQg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b3fc0b2a-0c34-4218-a983-e8cf42caf464 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D8635F.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Thanks, I may actually be applying to go to school there! Joan -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of AlbertCat@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:09 PM To: h-costume@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers In a message dated 9/22/2008 1:00:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybishop64@gmail.com writes: I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, > or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, > get-togethers, etc.) The North Carolina School of the Arts is there. Be sure to check out their productions. They have the costume shop from Heaven there....and the hugest scene shop I've ever seen. Anyway, they often come up with interesting productions in theatre, dance and opera/ music. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 23 02:10:15 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8N6AFtx019174 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:10:15 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8N6A7cq024896 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:10:11 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8N69AP7052423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:09:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N699w3060071; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:09:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web65705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.97]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8N695PG059985 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:09:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from carolmitchel@att.net) Received: (qmail 27992 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2008 06:09:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3jmz1DIVM1kCYATFhy5Dbt0CcWSABjK81.PRxjcRjDM4iXtIT3sZy8SmMoJVc6yBjnmQ_r6HOkIq5A.v0vu9H4TMu2b6Gc0y7Pf9HNED9OQ7waOWOUkteoXCAsFhHO6hQAaaTYKO2MSOu4dmpWyqWlpuwQy7wg0sCeaIDlzs5xDJI1UHFg-- Received: from [76.237.187.92] by web65705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:08:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Mitchell To: h-costume@indra.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <141522.27122.qm@web65705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] cow costume X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 6a8c70e6-31c8-4475-b0b6-bb22b6a327dd X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48D8883F.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO It was a long time ago, but the masquerade at Chicon 2000 used many cow cos= tumes (too many), and some of them may be left. If you'd like, I can forwar= d your request to the International Costumer's Guild list. BTW, I noticed a= =A0 response to your inquiry in the table of contents for the digest, but i= t doesn't seem to be there. Let me know if you found what you're looking fo= r. Carol =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Chicagoland Co= stumer's Guild=A0www.chicostume.org Costume Midwest http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/costumemidwest/=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = --- On Mon, 9/22/08, h-costume-request@indra.com wrote: From: h-costume-request@indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 343 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 1:00 PM Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-request@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: corset book by Jill Salen (Manon Antoinette) 2. Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 (Debloughcostumes@aol.com) 3. Great site! (Saragrace Knauf) 4. Cow costume for Into the Woods (Meredith Moseley-Bennett) 5. North Carolina costumers (Joan Broneske) 6. Re: North Carolina costumers (Katy Bishop) 7. Re: Cow costume for Into the Woods (Becky Rautine) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:19:02 +0200 From: Manon Antoinette Subject: Re: [h-cost] corset book by Jill Salen To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: <48D69016.1060001@enterharmony.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Thank you Janet for the information about the new book. It is quite easy to find! Amazon has it, Abebooks has it and so does my = local bookshop. Just ordered it, sounds very interesting, my interests are about 1790 = and up (until 1918). Especially the section about flossing sounds interesting. Regards, Manon Antoinette h-costume-request@indra.com schreef: > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > h-costume-request@mail.indra.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) > 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) > 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) > 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) > 7. Re: corsets (paige) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed > > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: = > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for = > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care = > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 > From: "Elena House" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > <9ec4d8740809201411n602d03eel947e8f4455e2ba50@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > > Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my > corset groups? > > -E House > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > > = >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> = > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed > > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, = > which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also = > the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor = > Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > > Of course you may forward the e-mails. > > Janet > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: Historical Costume > Message-ID: <48D5CD36.7000608@reddawn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed > > JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > = >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific = >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because = >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" = >> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. >> = > > I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal = > with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. > > I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a = > couple weeks now. > > > > > Dawn > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT > From: AlbertCat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on = > a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine = > made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll corsets. = > And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back = "spread = > sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like = embroidery. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial = > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and = > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=3Demlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 > From: "Alexandria Doyle" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" > Message-ID: > <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > = >> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... >> = > > Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? > please? pretty please? > > alex > > > = ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:54:22 EDT From: Debloughcostumes@aol.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" = UK version out since July, and not bad. = available used and new on amazon. = = = In a message dated 21/09/2008 19:05:46 GMT Standard Time, = h-costume-request@indra.com writes: Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: = Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for = those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care = about anything after 1650!) Janet = = ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:20:28 -0700 From: Saragrace Knauf Subject: [h-cost] Great site! To: "h-costume@indra.com" , "TheRenaissanceTailor@yahoogroups.com" , "GermanRenCostume@yahoogroups.com" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Sorry for the cross posts. I just came across this site and thought the wo= rk was really wonderful.....http://www.in-nova-corpora.ch/index.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 From: "Meredith Moseley-Bennett" Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods To: Message-ID: = Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent one? Thanks, Meredith Moseley-Bennett Certification Coordinator Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 NYC, NY 10001 Phone: 212.244.1505 Fax: 212.244.1502 -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-request@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." Today's Topics: 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) 7. Re: corsets (paige) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 From: "JAMES OGILVIE" Subject: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: = Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for = those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care = about anything after 1650!) Janet ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 From: "Elena House" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: <9ec4d8740809201411n602d03eel947e8f4455e2ba50@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my corset groups? -E House On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care > about anything after 1650!) > > Janet > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 From: "JAMES OGILVIE" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, = which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor = Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. Of course you may forward the e-mails. Janet ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 From: Dawn Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: Historical Costume Message-ID: <48D5CD36.7000608@reddawn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific = > Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because = > they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" = > and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal = with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a = couple weeks now. Dawn ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT From: AlbertCat@aol.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: h-costume@indra.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine = made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll corsets. = And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back "spread = sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like embroidery. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial = challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and = calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=3Demlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: <870801590809210921r331809aaxbac45f59f7443ef5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? please? pretty please? alex -- = "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 From: "paige" Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; reply-type=3Doriginal Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:26:45 -0700 From: "Joan Broneske" Subject: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, get-togethers, etc.) I will soon find myself living out there and would like to hook up with other costumers in the area. Thanks, Joan Primmar-Broneske ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:59:11 -0400 From: "Katy Bishop" Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers To: "Historical Costume" Message-ID: <3586f5070809220959m2f03b542t1a98add56ba973d9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 There is an active Vintage Dance community to too far away from that area. http://www.trianglevintagedance.com/ They could probably recommend costuming groups, and give you events to wear costumes to if you like the 19th and early 20th centuries. Katy On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Joan Broneske wrote: > I was wondering if anyone on the list is near Winston-Salem, North Carolina, > or knows of the "costuming" scene out that way (groups, clubs, > get-togethers, etc.) I will soon find myself living out there and would like > to hook up with other costumers in the area. > > Thanks, > > Joan Primmar-Broneske > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- = Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybishop64@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:27:17 -0400 From: Becky Rautine Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods To: Historical Costume Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" I know that Simplicity has one that is very easy to make and might be cheap= er than renting at most places. I'd be willing to help make it if you get the material or send me the money to get it here. Let me know if you'd consider that option. we can discuss it. We did Into the Woods several years ago....and I don't remember a cow. But then I was backstage doing makeup and didn't see it all either. My daughter was only a month old then. They used her for the baker's baby in the last scene. She played a boy and loved the singing. They used a crying track sin= ce she wouldn't cry when they sang to her. It shocked the whole audience when the princess turned her around and she moved. It was a great effect. I was = so proud. My older daughter, age 16, was the voice of the Giant's wife. = The first time the idea of using her as the baby happened the night before = the show opened. The girl playing the princess handed the boy who was the baker= my baby. He froze. He kept saying his lines but he didn't move. We stopped the practice. He'd never held a baby so we practiced. He got good at it. In the second night of the show, Elizabeth did fuss and the princess came over and= too her from the baker. He looked so hurt and the audience loved it. I love doi= ng plays, costumes, props, makeup and sets. Let me know if I can help out. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine ---------------------------------------- > From: mmbennett@esta.org > To: h-costume@indra.com > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:03:27 -0400 > Subject: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods > = > My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is > looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent > one? > Thanks, > = > Meredith Moseley-Bennett > Certification Coordinator > Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP > 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 > NYC, NY 10001 > Phone: 212.244.1505 > Fax: 212.244.1502 > = > = > = > = > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On > Behalf Of h-costume-request@indra.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:00 PM > To: h-costume@mail.indra.com > Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > = > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to > h-costume@mail.indra.com > = > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > h-costume-request@mail.indra.com > = > You can reach the person managing the list at > h-costume-owner@mail.indra.com > = > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > = > = > Today's Topics: > = > 1. corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 2. Re: corsets (Elena House) > 3. Re: corsets (JAMES OGILVIE) > 4. Re: corsets (Dawn) > 5. Re: corsets (AlbertCat@aol.com) > 6. Re: corsets (Alexandria Doyle) > 7. Re: corsets (paige) > = > = > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > = > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:15:47 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" = > Subject: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: = > Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed > = > Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: = > Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for = > those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care = > about anything after 1650!) > = > Janet > = > = > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:11:04 -0400 > From: "Elena House" = > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" = > Message-ID: > = > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > = > Who's the author? And do you mind if I forward this to a couple of my > corset groups? > = > -E House > = > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, JAMES OGILVIE wrote: > = >> Yesterday I got a "review" copy of a brand-new book called "Corsets: >> Historical Patterns and Techniques". It looks like a great resource for >> those with interests between 1750 and 1917. (Unfortunately, I don't care >> about anything after 1650!) >> >> Janet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000 > From: "JAMES OGILVIE" = > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: = > Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed > = > The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific Media, = > which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because they are also = > the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" and "The Tudor = > Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > = > Of course you may forward the e-mails. > = > Janet > = > = > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:27:34 -0600 > From: Dawn = > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: Historical Costume = > Message-ID: = > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed > = > JAMES OGILVIE wrote: >> The author's name is Jill Salen and it's published by Quite Specific = >> Media, which may make it hard to find. I've dealt with them because = >> they are also the U.S. publisher for "The Medieval Tailor's Assistant" = >> and "The Tudor Tailor" but most bookstores don't carry their stuff. > = > I've ordered direct from QSM before and they are a pleasure to deal = > with. Most of their books are worth buying sight unseen. > = > I see they are expecting Patterns of Fashion 3 to be available in just a = > couple weeks now. > = > = > = > = > Dawn > = > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:56:46 EDT > From: AlbertCat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: h-costume@indra.com > Message-ID: = > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > = > My copy came yesterday. This is a great book! Some interesting patterns, on > = > a grid. And some "projects": a hand made 18th century jumps and a machine = > made "girl's" 19th century corset....with instructions. Even some doll > corsets. = > And some techniques explained. Each corset has a photo, a front/back > "spread = > sheet", the pattern laid out on a grid and some details, like = embroidery. > = > = > = > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial = > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and = > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=3Demlcntuswall00000001) > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:25 -0500 > From: "Alexandria Doyle" = > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" = > Message-ID: > = > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > = > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >> My copy came yesterday. ... Even some doll corsets.... > = > Doll corsets? What's the dae for those dolls and or their corsets? > please? pretty please? > = > alex > = > = > -- = > "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you > know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, > injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's > Friday..." ;) > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:57:10 -0400 > From: "paige" = > Subject: Re: [h-cost] corsets > To: "Historical Costume" = > Message-ID: = > Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=3Doriginal > = > Available at Barnes and Nobles Books and currently priced at $25.20 US > = > = > ------------------------------ > = > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > = > = > End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 342 > ***************************************** > = > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of = your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 343 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 23 06:00:24 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8NA0MDh031865 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:00:23 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8NA0FZC002312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:00:19 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8N9rQhL062372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:53:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N9rMrH087168; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:53:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (mail-out5.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.92]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8N9rIOh087149 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:53:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from stilskin@netspace.net.au) Received: from localhost (webmail1.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.190]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0285F174681 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:53:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from CPE-124-180-5-135.vic.bigpond.net.au (CPE-124-180-5-135.vic.bigpond.net.au [124.180.5.135]) by webmail.netspace.net.au (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:53:16 +1000 Message-ID: <1222163596.48d8bc8cb30bb@webmail.netspace.net.au> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:53:16 +1000 From: stilskin@netspace.net.au To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cow costume for Into the Woods X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 11a35412-773e-4027-8f88-ab82e5f0ca3f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48D8BE2F.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:00:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > My mother-in-law teaches in Chicago and is doing Into the Woods and is > looking for a cow costume, does anyone have any leads on where she can rent Cow? All it does is just kind'a stand around with Jack so, in a production I did some years ago, we just made a kind of suitcase thing on pram wheels and either dragged it on or picked it up by the handle for exits. Can you con the director into being sensible like that or are you stuck with making/hiring a cow? If hiring, does Angels have an outlet in NY? Are there companies who do a lot of children's shows? They may be options, -C. ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 23 10:19:40 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8NEJdHZ023201 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:19:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8NEJXm3017232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:19:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8NEJFcC080264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:19:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8NEJCxP033405; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:19:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8NEJ8pP033294 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:19:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.ce2.3a6de11f (30740) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:18:44 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] North Carolina costumers X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 32d46eb7-a14e-4900-805c-302c77fb2ee6 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48D8FAF5.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:29:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hello, I'm sure this must have been discussed before, so please if someone knew the name of the thread of a previous discussion of this topic, please tell me. My friend bought an early 19th century corset made of cotton and boned with reed. Sadly, the garment is in a very bad condition and needs cleaning and repairing. We are both afraid that dry cleaning as well as hand washing might damage the garment. Are there any other techniques like dry washing with some kind of foam or something? Or any suggestions on where shall I look for information? Thank you, Zuzana ___________________________ Sartor...custom-made costumes www.sartor.cz _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 24 10:46:08 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8OEk8BT008977 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:46:08 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8OEjw4Q021917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:46:02 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8OEjW5a094545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:45:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8OEjTeZ040676; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:45:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wm-imp-1.unl.edu (wm-imp-1.unl.edu [129.93.2.180]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8OEjOEb040607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:45:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from 00217146@bigred.unl.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wm-imp-1.unl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8OEjOoV017642 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:45:24 -0500 Received: from lin-dsl-static-206-222-194-145.inetnebr.com (lin-dsl-static-206-222-194-145.inetnebr.com [206.222.194.145]) by wm-imp-1.unl.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:45:24 -0500 Message-ID: <20080924094524.bbc2qry188ww448c@wm-imp-1.unl.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:45:24 -0500 From: 00217146@bigred.unl.edu To: Historical Costume References: <763008.91223.qm@web37506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <763008.91223.qm@web37506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] cleaning antique garments X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="Yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 28293029-1b06-486f-b3de-e4228d25bb8d X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48DA52A7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:46:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO The least invasive way to clean an old garment is by vacuuming it, gently (usually with the vaccuum nozzle held an inch or more above the textile) with a fiberglass screen between the textile and the vaccuum. If you *must* wet-wash, find a tub of some sort that the textile can lay flat in, and use only room-temperature clean water (distilled). Let it soak a while, carefully drain out the old water and repeat. Spread it out flat to dry. Remember that some fibers can become *VERY* fragile when wet. It wouldn't be a bad idea to lay a piece of clean (wash the sizing out first) unbleached muslin under the garment in the bath so you can lift it out gently. Lay flat to dry in a well-ventilated area. See also: http://www.quiltstudy.org/about_us/questions_answers/care.html > Hello, I'm sure this must have been discussed before, so please if > someone knew the name of the thread of a previous discussion of this > topic, please tell me. > > My friend bought an early 19th century corset made of cotton and > boned with reed. Sadly, the garment is in a very bad condition and > needs cleaning and repairing. We are both afraid that dry cleaning > as well as hand washing might damage the garment. Are there any > other techniques like dry washing with some kind of foam or > something? Or any suggestions on where shall I look for information? _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 24 15:04:05 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8OJ452m021252 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:04:05 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8OJ3vgE016342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:04:03 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8OIuCVP019302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:56:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8OIu83g099079; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:56:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.38]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8OIu3OW098906 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:56:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 51546 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2008 18:55:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=c6w6nLT5yn0GI4eDF3dAe5XguGdOH2pvBEPn66gBpVIaWtCF7bkjbGzPHdANqL5qNr2HQIrGi7lMleID4270x8zm3fuY9XEema0thIo9mkUNuqeCNL202DJGKeDtsEnDO/1WCgw+pmOlIp+emSvrPtxHW0+VOtc4m0FNvf8REY4=; X-YMail-OSG: YmjO_ekVM1lpoxC.E62R2MGlAeP_0S10PKMipqfuf.SSZ2NgQIMn5NnXIO2OLPI8236uT4qEH5Yn7WcPiGXF56SSXiExahU1Z_D819GEg7HQkY4hZMUQREghUM0EiB.ISUXzH4gjnIIYplzeMo2OlQZiIUTM Received: from [66.106.147.76] by web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:55:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:55:58 -0700 (PDT) From: cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <500210.51102.qm@web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] cleaning antique garments X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 41b7a6fa-f6a2-476b-8112-b16a4315ace9 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48DA8F1D.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:04:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO But she said the garment is boned with reed? I've heard of soaking reed in glycerin to put some life back into them, but I'm wondering if soaking them in water might be a bad idea? How quickly might mold set in? Perhaps the original poster could tell us more about the nature of the "dirt" that needs to be removed. I myself have been trying to figure out how to get some of the grunge out of the canopy and ostrich trim of an antique parasol(it's rather grey, and I assume it was originally white or ivory). I don't want to remove the canopy, since it's in its original state. I'll probably start by "soaking" the whole thing in cornstarch. Claudine ----- Original Message ---- If you *must* wet-wash, find a tub of some sort that the textile can lay flat in, and use only room-temperature clean water (distilled). > My friend bought an early 19th century corset made of cotton and > boned with reed. Sadly, the garment is in a very bad condition and > needs cleaning and repairing. We are both afraid that dry cleaning > as well as hand washing might damage the garment. Are there any > other techniques like dry washing with some kind of foam or > something? Or any suggestions on where shall I look for information? _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Wed Sep 24 22:20:23 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8P2KMaS005622 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:20:23 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8P2KHPh006937 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:20:20 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8P2Jf5P056425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:19:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8P2JcCr097881; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:19:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.179]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8P2JXAn097765 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:19:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 44197 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2008 02:19:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=RSkyNdcjMM0XFmk/jbeqlZaWcgqoajXPTO8XiUCZ89iIpyl5I9o3kgXc0rkdr+k3UMo1dQCw7VTFK+F08w5wTqMh843nAj3ri2pQOVR7/oiva98HQepcxTrfWJ2SEVoEE51Wdro7uMDqxqU2ra01PJHdJg+J+9i+33JlbaN0udM=; X-YMail-OSG: aca8RGcVM1kDUUb7ZwDA5MWswRbRPcm.nW5dmTzZAItd7ahBrBg7OJWQBNbNmajr20Z1qLER91O6NRRCsAWB423ozPtBaSJDKdRsTUNZ9UJlQSACmBlX59Y02.Sl2Dp.4OodWU0aC3B4lCUz9XFqXgYnWNGrDVYEjpcOjHYK0Rmra9D1Ww-- Received: from [66.106.147.76] by web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:19:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <324329.43805.qm@web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] I saw it!!!!! X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 06939802-7d2e-4500-8288-55b6418098d5 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48DAF561.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:20:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I'm rather behind on email: what sleeve is this? I'd love to know. :) Claudine ----- Original Message ---- From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" To: Historical Costume Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:49:57 PM Subject: [h-cost] I saw it!!!!! I saw the sleeve!!!!! *bounce* *bounce* *bounce* _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 25 15:39:56 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8PJduGZ009148 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:56 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8PJdkHU025129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:52 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8PJdAi8028836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:39:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8PJd6p4075233; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:39:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from itasca.net (rocky.itasca.net [12.157.198.4]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8PJd0F1075149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:39:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from pixel@itasca.net) Received: from pixel (helo=localhost) by itasca.net with local-esmtp (Exim 4.67 and XAMS 0.0.15) id 1KiwjP-0003eF-GX for h-costume@indra.com; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:42:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:42:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" X-X-Sender: pixel@magilla.itasca.net To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <324329.43805.qm@web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <324329.43805.qm@web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] I saw it!!!!! X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 673dfe2c-c515-4eec-9e66-efc1590b6c3c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48DBE902.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On the back cover of the original printing of Textiles and Clothing, there is a color photograph of a partial 14th c. sleeve that they dug up. This is that sleeve, which I now have my OWN photograph of. Jen On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com wrote: > I'm rather behind on email: what sleeve is this? I'd love to know. :) > > > Claudine > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" > To: Historical Costume > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:49:57 PM > Subject: [h-cost] I saw it!!!!! > > > I saw the sleeve!!!!! *bounce* *bounce* *bounce* > > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Thu Sep 25 17:46:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8PLkhW0013686 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:46:43 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8PLjTiu010351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:46:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8PLjChV038977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:45:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8PLjBQP091748; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:45:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.34]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8PLj8jP091620 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:45:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58288 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2008 21:45:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MAL0Ltz2FovPajAu/qm0tTK1T02ybzj8GCQdL2iv4k+URwcrZj/mQj77Xl38wMGfwA7NqBd91+zvTjevmgoDByfOKAddt/qb/q9QBJ0Qr5jE8bz66xsCGZa79vdIrh3zSpdvmpPoIsQ2gLjdKHUW/cgXbDAQahFCbjci8zwwu4k=; X-YMail-OSG: GyVYeh8VM1m2mnPpMCPb7S3Lw5il8bNTk90UR24Fpd4m9Yt3sm0oHa00P5pfxAunK660pMFH4GUgEHkHDh22yFuArIicmU1YR5MGbUX6aTYVg0V3vNINIp5dTOG2JE4It3g- Received: from [66.106.147.76] by web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:45:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <560702.32903.qm@web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] what use/time period: checked linen X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c48d5fa2-04de-43e1-a2ca-53ac7b2d3363 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48DC0679.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:46:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO A friend of mine is wondering in what time period, and for what purpose, one could use checked linen. I think the fabric she's looking at is a pretty fine check, a colored thread on a light or white background. I seem to recall checked fabric like this being used for work clothes, towels, aprons, etc. in the 18th century but beyond that I'm drawing a blank. Anyone have input? Thanks. Claudine _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 27 19:35:20 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8RNZJ8l010913 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:35:19 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8RNZEsn015671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:35:17 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8RNYjUt041400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:34:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8RNYfPr088441; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:34:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mf4.socket.net (mf4c.socket.net [216.106.48.200]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8RNYcQ0088417 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:34:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from otsisto@socket.net) Received: from CAT1 (unknown [216.106.93.239]) by mf4.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E3B486D12C for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:34:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "otsisto" To: "Historic Costume" Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:34:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Venetian gown sleeves X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 26a23c59-7523-4581-8ebb-fe332bea2fcc X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48DEC332.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:35:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I found this painting in a search http://tinyurl.com/4np64b This is the first time I have found this type of sleeve (pink gown) pre 1500s. Has anyone seen this type of sleeve in the 1400s? I know that Memling paints it but because it is allegorical it is considered a fantasy sleeve. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Hans_Memling_065.jpg Anyone see this kind of sleeve in any painting you have come across that is not allegorical? De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Sat Sep 27 20:23:09 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8S0N9dN012396 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:23:09 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8S0N1cT022172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:23:05 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8S0MkJQ043743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:22:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8S0MkcK014299; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:22:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from gateway08.websitewelcome.com (gateway08.websitewelcome.com [69.41.242.28]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8S0Mh24014272 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:22:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (qmail 23167 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2008 00:37:06 -0000 Received: from audi.websitewelcome.com (67.19.210.130) by gateway08.websitewelcome.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2008 00:37:06 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33854) by audi.websitewelcome.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kjk3X-0000ey-SY; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:22:35 -0500 Received: from 216.105.181.26 ([216.105.181.26]) by www.goldsword.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20080927202235.4xahii8ms8owwwgk@www.goldsword.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:22:35 -0400 From: Susan Farmer To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - audi.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - indra.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goldsword.com X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Venetian gown sleeves X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="Yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 03b30f11-d145-4613-8c10-68269e70a726 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48DECE65.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:23:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Quoting otsisto : > I found this painting in a search > http://tinyurl.com/4np64b > This is the first time I have found this type of sleeve (pink gown) pre > 1500s. Has anyone seen this type of sleeve in the 1400s? > I know that Memling paints it but because it is allegorical it is considered > a fantasy sleeve. > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Hans_Memling_065.jpg > > Anyone see this kind of sleeve in any painting you have come across that is > not allegorical? > Fra Carnevale (1425-1484) http://www.wga.hu/bio/c/carneval/biograph.html the picture on the left is one that shows it the best http://tinyurl.com/4kye8q Here's a better picture http://flickr.com/photos/17884832@N00/2046236161/ It appears to be a common sleeve in this time period. jerusha/ susan ----- Susan Farmer sfarmer@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 00:36:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8T4ag6A025289 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:36:42 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8T4aZQw028731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:36:39 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8T4aCNg051359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:36:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8T4a85Y040252; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:36:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8T4a5nF040203 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:36:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from madlystitching@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rkvprzrWgN2gRj74ra5cc9AFozuVL6xaRkdnOVu9dbTPMCXGmkq809sJkhUDPXdd; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from c-24-10-15-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([24.10.15.192] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KkAUO-0006nL-KB for h-costume@indra.com; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:36:04 -0400 Message-ID: <48E05A91.7070300@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:33:21 -0700 From: Stephen Bergdahl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <20080620.101934.12088.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> In-Reply-To: <20080620.101934.12088.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> X-Antivirus: avast! 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:36:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hello all! I am thinning out my patterns and Instead of posting them one by one, I have posted the first batch of 14. They are all new and uncut. Sorry if this posting is against the rules, but I hate to just throw out perfectly good patterns. Here is the listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190255625315 Stephen s _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 11:39:33 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TFdVDG031250 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TFdPdW017150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:39:29 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TFctE0093426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:38:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TFcpLk061568; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:38:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TFcknI061398 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:38:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from AlbertCat@aol.com) Received: from AlbertCat@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c70.2febba70 (39329) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:38:36 -0400 (EDT) From: AlbertCat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:38:36 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Amazon.co.uk recommendations X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 4982595c-0b83-4724-b9ce-c73aae30e49e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E0F6AD.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 14:10:31 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TIAVU7007530 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:10:31 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TIAORt028981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TI9rvT012156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:09:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TI9nmB024774; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:09:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TI9ljR024663 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:09:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so10697639gxk.23 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Pkr0VWCmYWR6Wi1up7QgnUn1yynv2XnSF/Ra9Qj/2+o=; b=jvMGxZ0944ohTyhcYFzROownCXoYbO13QhldDnrFB2G/niNk14BP7UJi9WAv0xY8zX Vraa64WH7GocZWVlJOJURlGUh+TplexYKE1XbVcvxGIrYcOWJiKOJ2cJX4v0EGR5eHn2 JP5TRIcTpApcYnRI0/rIqbplB+A+J1/QBj2QU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FTSkfpniiizMZ5sF/lWmRwxBxm/GuxzYGtbvnLFO7yM4ciaAN3K+tjjJPdtTk1IfhL eUk3+4FMXtaX3iCiaxiJW8LVMLuQJ0lw3ae4fE0AVbNdFeuejSoM5eFx3VUwhSMH6sRY 2Vfk1B15vkN5/qJ1hlagIdteXhl3VwLmOM17c= Received: by 10.151.11.17 with SMTP id o17mr8247136ybi.210.1222711782421; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 From: Cin To: h-cost MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: aa0fde16-dcb1-44c3-bd90-545544a58136 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48E11A10.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:10:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 14:45:55 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TIjtck009759 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:45:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TIjjUs013491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:45:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TIipvj016025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:44:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TIilFq059627; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:44:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wm-imp-2.unl.edu (wm-imp-2.unl.edu [129.93.2.91]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TIifoa059467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:44:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from 00217146@bigred.unl.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wm-imp-2.unl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TIiavq013317 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:44:37 -0500 Received: from pcp078093pcs.unl.edu (pcp078093pcs.unl.edu [129.93.149.10]) by wm-imp-2.unl.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:44:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20080929134436.rjugeqldcogss4o4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:44:36 -0500 From: 00217146@bigred.unl.edu To: Historical Costume References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="Yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 7810fe8f-e9c9-4f1d-a51d-d7c21c55048b X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E12259.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:45:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Well, she's nekkid at the moment, but I'm thinking of doing a pink and sparkly generic fairy for halloween this year, because I'm usually dark and gothy and thought something out of character *THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN* would be fun. Last year, I was a historic preenactor, inspired by: http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=DC-PREENACT&Category_Code=DC Only my reenactor friends got the joke. Emma > It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, > company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th > Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical > locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making > something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? > --cin > Cynthia Barnes > CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 15:00:54 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TJ0sw5010328 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:00:54 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TJ0ivF014622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:00:49 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TJ0185018060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:00:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TJ005u075357; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:00:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TIxwu6075265 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:59:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from chiara.francesca@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2211356wfg.23 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :message-id; bh=oXZlV94AK+mCflM7qXnYSp86IOBToolT1DbbFmRFyjo=; b=mekALJp1ryOVhTQXdFly7D2gntqFLxdaDivgvso8IjwKrC8IrpBsx9yjIS+qEvfBZT jMYCJ5+Xgtc6Vc2naor8KLavvdiBqCzH/Rgh2qkus+zwgZJhQdH5pBq179MLZ2djv9af OcWHODnrnRj+CxipJBLkldYgGD+/YWxY/YKC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:message-id; b=nKxp7Fq2XVQ2jkVQ1n8X7+37Jda2zHgjMHwA2Gu0o1RfuwOEKIANrtPUBC6OVFPdaR uCYQXr+ycTEB5dhiwy9bplGADFkSYtvLcAzHosClA6JIghGVq2DsyXpwhIWdaXdK7Y9C 3i/JtKk9cvnidg2ErtqEO6k0H3q3T6mjCpUuU= Received: by 10.114.37.1 with SMTP id k1mr6310748wak.42.1222714797757; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FranchescaPC (c-24-17-50-243.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.17.50.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm686754poa.6.2008.09.29.11.59.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chiara Francesca" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:59:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckiX52289hj/j/MSKONw3pPUoUlKgABWn7Q Content-Language: en-us Message-ID: <48e125ab.081b600a.135a.7dac@mx.google.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 15:21:03 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TJL3n4011172 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:21:03 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TJKvqL025170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:21:01 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TJKjsj020002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:20:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TJKjVQ096038; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:20:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TJK9Ma095346 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:20:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from maricelt@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so2187630rvb.11 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SUZqWMC90DFrk3/K7k80f3Wtk9ueBybTfbzRBLZXxug=; b=bEw6U8HLiyLf4Aa4JvKeceodUwDVD0ttcFJYkYZeDT0E8sDTcj4URbgqNdJBiuonk9 lqOUXbQN8lja9sUqYk8oUyblkFWHDEN1vsXhmNJeKF1cHJKPAeTQmBqCyOPQ1ilcSuiH F4AQXj1/yuZ5Zk997QcmDwSp3kjhiU5KG85bQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dyq8yLQjoqfdaHrX6N6ydjZik76q5CVVyErXvE3XvU/Sn1z6vb+1ktaEXhdOYghuzc +hc3V6DMjZ+dz0N9z5ftAHhxytoNCzKw3+UkfVUZy9VVJoPLxDIuj6PN4Oj7s/+oYRO/ vsCeR3vDzG3dZdPcUzV+DDKXnlwT65ovkNstA= Received: by 10.140.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr2814215rve.134.1222716008829; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.123.6 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72adc2660809291220q494fbe92u48ed31be0cb295f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:20:08 -0400 From: "Marie Stewart" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <48E13763.8020204@reddawn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E13763.8020204@reddawn.net> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Bridgette _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 16:16:01 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TKG19x015055 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:16:01 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TKFtvr020272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:15:59 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TKFZaJ026312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:15:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TKFZCG050005; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:15:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.207]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TKFV4w049875 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:15:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from shaneandsheridan@sympatico.ca) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.168.47]) by bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:15:26 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.168.200 by by113fd.bay113.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:15:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.223.71.45] X-Originating-Email: [shaneandsheridan@sympatico.ca] X-Sender: shaneandsheridan@sympatico.ca In-Reply-To: From: "Shane Sheridan Chabot" To: h-costume@indra.com Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:15:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2008 20:15:25.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BF43300:01C92270] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:15:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hmm M'lady is wearing not one, not two, but three separate pairs of isis wings (blue, orange, burgundy/black) and a very muppet-fuzzy purple shrug. I will soon be adding two more pairs of isis wings. (red, purple) M'lord is wearing a mostly constructed and partially fitted double breasted vest (black wool) for my husband to wear at the Steampunk party we are hosting Nov 1. ( I have a big pile of blue and black taffeta and nylon netting strips that I keep hoping will assemble themselves into a ruffled skirt for me, but alas it seems I have to do the gathering and sewing myself. *sigh*) Sheridan P. >From: Cin >Reply-To: Historical Costume >To: h-cost >Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 > >It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, >company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th >Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical >locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making >something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? >--cin >Cynthia Barnes >CinBarnes@gmail.com > >PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on >the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on >your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the >embroidery hoop. >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 16:26:57 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TKQvCF015571 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:26:57 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TKQmY6019718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:26:54 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TKQOHI027712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:26:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TKQNpC060039; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:26:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TKQIPp059916 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:26:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lauren.walker@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LfVC1a06l1HzFnQ53kSDPY; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:13 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LkSD1a00244NJrw3akSDAm; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NiqN3u8w5z8A:10 a=JTx7XoOgJ5EA:10 a=tNcjeHzYAAAA:8 a=1i51h4y8AAAA:8 a=yEf1prcKZ6oa3DH3NNIA:9 a=9v_LSa0r0dCm4oY95PgA:7 a=oofhWF_cgZTiTlAHbv66ZONL1O8A:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 a=KhkTZJB7O9KIvM_7j_8A:7 a=qIL_xD02Wkam-9t5QuiXjYn0VOEA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Received: from [67.158.113.2] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:12 +0000 From: lauren.walker@comcast.net To: Historical Costume Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:12 +0000 Message-Id: <092920082026.7393.48E139E3000E92BD00001CE122092299279D0A05040E99D2020A9D9A0E04@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bGF1cmVuLndhbGtlckBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:26:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Just *off* the worktable (I can't have a dummy until we either buy a house or decide to live in two separate condos; a woodworker and a string geek bring too much equipment to an 800-square foot apartment) is the petticoat to match the cute 18th-century jacket I had the Silly Sisters make for me. They are made from one of the Indian cottons I sell; I'm hoping to try the outfit on this week and get some pictures up on the Web site. yeah, I know, having somebody else make the jacket is cheating. Back ON the worktable now is the scandalous turmeric yellow with red springs cotton gown I'm making out of a nine-yard sungudi sari. This one is also 18th century; the fabric is too thin for the amount of abuse the gown will get, so I have backed it througout with a yellow cotton/linen blend, and am sewing the two layers as if they were one, rather than as if it were lined -- though since I started I've found rather a lot of paintings that appear to show gowns lined in the skirts. The! yellow is the same as in this one: http://timetraveltextiles.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TTT&Product_Code=S174&Category_Code=S but the sprigs are a more orangey red and are, well, flowery sprigs instead of circles and squares. I've got the back pleats done and have sewn the bodice fronts to the back, but still have to add the rest of the skirts, finish the front, make sleeves, and then perhaps trim it. But my happiest recent accomplishment is that I finally finished a second 18th century linen shift. Although the gowns are often held together with the flimisiest of construction, 18th-century shifts were built like brick outhouses; so it's taken me forever to get around to nailing one together. I've ordered some beautiful silver sleeve buttons to celebrate: http://www.historicdelights.com/misc.htm Since I've started cooking at re-enactor events, I'm also making aprons every chance I get. I've also got twelve yards of a blue brocade that will someday be my first 18th c saque-back. Usually I spend the winter doing Dark Ages-early medieval sewing, but lately I keep finding fabrics that inspire 18th century things instead. So competing with the saque is a pretty blue and brown Norwich wool stripe from which I hope to make a cozy everyday gown for the cooler months. I think when I get back to my Angles and Saxons and Vikings it'll be weaving rather than stitching for a while. I want to make some winingas and some belt and fillet tapes. I may make some hoods/coifs, too; and of course I need some more medieval shifts, too! L'shanah tovah to all! Lauren lauren.walker@comcast.net http://www.timetraveltextiles.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 17:06:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TL6qkj017337 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:06:53 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TL6gnM022346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:06:46 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TL68Mq046575 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:06:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TL68NL096560; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:06:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.collierfam.com (collierfam.com [216.65.44.63]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TL63AS096504 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:06:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sharon@collierfam.com) Received: from bobfamilyroom [216.65.44.63] by mail.collierfam.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A243A7B400D0; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:01:55 +0000 From: "Sharon Collier" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:05:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AckiXmTKnosDHGitSba1lUjWfMs9RQAF7vQA In-Reply-To: X-CommKal-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude for spam and viruses. X-DCC-Rhyolite-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 95587541-b51a-46db-857d-16dabb9110ac X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E14362.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:06:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO A straw fan on a ribbon around her neck (to keep it from the cat!)As for what am I making--plans for the "Cutting Back of the Plants that have Taken Over the Backyard". Coming dancing next week? (Lesley's busy this week) Sharon -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:10 AM To: h-cost Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 17:12:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8TLCAto017718 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:12:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8TLBnin026404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:11:53 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8TLBYOF054325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:11:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TLBXFA001661; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:11:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8TLBTvk001491 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:11:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from moreplentyn@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gvyvldssyuqIjTCPS7ANBeIHTiYRz/brWshuDOVxPSuzL5Tu0rcqhbTJsqZlO0/+; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.167.252.54] (helo=Boris) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KkQ1b-0003Ag-R8 for h-costume@indra.com; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:11:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carmen Beaudry" To: "Historical Costume" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:11:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ELNK-Trace: 1a4a21053b62758bdb287b3a1c9ea9039ef193a6bfc3dd48484651e2367a46d8136e405a5648436930febb85a5f48815350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.167.252.54 X-DCC-Rhyolite-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:11:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Right now she's wearing a purple and black 1900 summer walking suit, with a pair of mens 1635 breeches in green brocade thrown over top of everything to keep them out of the way. Melusine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cin" To: "h-cost" Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:09 AM Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? > It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, > company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th > Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical > locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making > something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? > --cin > Cynthia Barnes > CinBarnes@gmail.com > > PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on > the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on > your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the > embroidery hoop. > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 21:41:22 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U1fLQt032391 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:41:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U1fFDb015214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:41:18 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U1eie9078779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:40:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U1eeA8005035; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:40:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.93]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U1eb0c004938 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:40:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kstormy@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU130-W18 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.210.115.137] From: Kathy Stormberg To: Historical Costume Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:40:32 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2008 01:40:32.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[8704FA30:01C9229D] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:41:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My dummy is wearing the muslin of a cropped, puff sleeved velvet jacket whi= ch is part of my Halloween costume. I am going to be the Spider Queen to g= o with the spider overrun haunted graveyard which is this year's Halloween = theme. Also the dress form is wearing my corset in an attempt to make my U= niquely You smaller. I bought it too big and although it is compressible i= t is not THAT compressible (medium-large Uniquely You for sale, good condit= ion, in the Bay Area). Cin, when you ask what others are doing you should tell us what you are doi= ng. So what are you doing? -Kathy my crafty blog: www.medievalartcraft.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700 > From: cinbarnes@gmail.com > To: h-costume@indra.com > Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? > = > It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, > company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th > Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical > locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making > something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? > --cin > Cynthia Barnes > CinBarnes@gmail.com > = > PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on > the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on > your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the > embroidery hoop. > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together=97at home, work, or on the= go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Mon Sep 29 23:07:01 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U370LW005146 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:07:00 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U36sB0016096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:06:58 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U36JIf085991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:06:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U36HpY063632; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:06:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au (flexo.grapevine.net.au [203.129.32.140]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U36DkB063584 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:06:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ewalpole@grapevine.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAF2580EF6 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:06:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flexo.grapevine.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXFPj6enen47 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:06:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from OfflinePC (ppp-80.50.129.203.grapevine.net.au [203.129.50.80]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D107B580EE8 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:06:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Elizabeth Walpole" To: "'Historical Costume'" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:05:58 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AckiXuYhMAQ/AG0FRgWQEP0Z/ubJJAAMR7Ag X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 Message-Id: <20080930030602.D107B580EE8@flexo.grapevine.net.au> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 30d862a0-9f87-4c45-b62b-baf26c37987c X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48E197CE.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:06:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, URIBL_GREY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Actually right now my dummy is wearing a bonnet, I've been experimenting with trims as it has been untrimmed for too long and I found some flowers I can use last weekend http://www.flickr.com/photos/69933810@N00/2899543225/ I think I need to buy a Styrofoam head to model hats on. I'm also working on a fitted English gown from the Tudor Tailor to add to my SCA group's loaner garb as a replacement for an unforgivably ugly crushed velvet 'coat like' dress that I removed, not even the trim was worth salvaging, I'm still debating whether to put the original in the bin or donate it to charity and hope that somebody might use it for a costume party. Elizabeth ------------------------------- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 4:10 AM To: h-cost Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 00:31:48 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U4VbJq009282 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:31:37 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U4UC74025931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:31:01 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U4TUYl091336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:29:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U4TTeg013062; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:29:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.155]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U4TPK6012974 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:29:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from praxis_729@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY109-W33 ([64.4.19.133]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.87.150.219] From: Paula Praxis To: Historical Costume Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:29:20 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2008 04:29:20.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B98BF30:01C922B5] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d0b74074-4eb4-420b-b0dc-0bb0f9f42897 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48E1AB54.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:31:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I LOVE THIS THREAD!! Penny is draped in a mock up of a new 'Robe' for "Aida". I did the show last year and had to rent the 'Robe'. I now have some time and lots of scrap fabric and want to make one to add to the rest of the wardrobe. Pricilla is in a frilly petticoat awaiting a red velvet Elf dress for my daughter for Christmas. Petula is on loan to a friend who is dressing her for a prop - not sure what she is wearing. Anniecat :-) > Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:09:42 -0700> From: cinbarnes@gmail.com> To: h-costume@indra.com> Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?> > It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season,> company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th> Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical> locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making> something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?> --cin> Cynthia Barnes> CinBarnes@gmail.com> > PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on> the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on> your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the> embroidery hoop.> _______________________________________________> h-costume mailing list> h-costume@mail.indra.com> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 01:02:13 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U52DZl010618 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:02:13 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U527Bd009757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:02:10 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U51YgT092970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:01:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U51VsE030686; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:01:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.197]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U51Sqn030661 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:01:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-68-57-166-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net [68.57.166.48]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KkXMU0HOv-00057X; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:01:27 -0400 Message-ID: <659CCEFF94FE4BE18B02EE03C987AA5A@momlaptop> From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "Historical Costume" References: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:01:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19cHyqNwCaGBhuguFrg2jGXvClyxm0T3KTKyi/ I2uIJh1J2T37EyZ2ssLpVINQZjd2d5nvQ39D4yKnfAVoQEmaJo i7oJ6sF5in7/DAR/OXnPg== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Thank you for dressing me so nice! :) Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 10 websites of costume, fashion and textile history. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 01:11:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U5BhSG011360 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:43 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U5BcYw012849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:41 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U5BGoq093416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:11:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U5BGSG036129; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:11:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U5BDXT036095 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:11:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from penny@costumegallery.com) Received: from momlaptop (c-68-57-166-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net [68.57.166.48]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KkXVv01bE-0005bo; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Penny Ladnier" To: "h-costume" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19P70v+McRNMkRhHVBBQTobEX9o1hx3/1bOqNs 09QU9RpdOs0My2EwvzMYInJhAQ4uK4C2zDenXSC2M1lCP56nGU 9JxgLNSicOqEZhlJEnqXg== X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] Open House: The Costume Gallery Websites X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: c40a9d79-e724-4cdb-862a-57ce675516fa X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E1B50A.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:11:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO We are having a three-day open house, Sept. 30-Oct. 2 at The Costume Gallery Websites. The Gallery now contains ten websites about costume, fashion, & textile history. Nine of ten websites are included in the open access. Please use the following user ID and password below to enter the subscribers' areas of our websites. All the passwords need to be in lower case with no blank spaces. User ID: cg2003 Password: w324dcgk Please make sure to note passwords adjustments for specific websites. If you have passwords problems, please email me privately with the problem and complete URL. The nine Costume Gallery websites included in open house: 1. The Costume Gallery's main site: www.costumegallery.com Umbrella for all our websites. 2. Costume Research Library: www.costumelibrary.com Contains 4,032 webpages and countless images from original fashion magazine articles, catalogs, books, and period photographs dating from 1804-1950. 3. Online Costume Ball: www.onlinecostumeball.com Houses five years, 1998-2002, of our online balls. This is a great place to get ideas for costumes of all types. This area has free access year round. 4. Costume Encyclopedia: www.costumeencyclopedia.com Database containing 770 entries and 407 images. Covers the creative and business historic sides of the fashion and costume industries. Passwords are only required for links to full articles or images enlargements. 5. Costume & Fashion History Slideshows: www.costumeslideshows.com Contains 16 slideshows with 749 images total. Features collections from Virginia Commonwealth University's Fashion Dept. and John And Mable Ringling Museum of Art. Note: Each slideshow has its own domain assigned. You will need to enter the passwords for each slideshow. 6. Fashion Color Database: www.fcdatabase.com Database providing over 2,100 entries of color names, their definitions, usage, and trends that were used from 600 A.D. to 1930s. Users need to enter the password "w324dcgk" to search the database. 7. Hairstyle History: www.pasthairstyles.com/ Covers hair history from ancient to the 1970s. 8. Fashion Designers of Their Time: www.pastdesigners.com Showcases 56 fashion womenswear and menswear designers, milliners, and hair designers and over 280 images from the Victorian to Depression eras. 9. Costume, Fashion, & Textile Dictionary: www.costumedictionary.com The Dictionary consists of 450 definitions and 200 pages in Adobe Acrobat Reader. The definitions cover the fashion and textile industries' history from ancient times to the 1890s. The Dictionary also covers certain areas of industries trends and statistics for the 19th Century. Use the top menu and click on Library Subscribers; next click on "Directions for Usage." Lastly under the same topic, click on "Login to the Dictionary." Enter the passwords. The speed of the Dictionary's Acrobat file depends upon the speed of your internet service provider and computer. This is a large file, so please be patient. The file will open in a new browser window. The Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com is our only website not included in the open house. Enjoy our open house! Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 10 websites of costume, fashion and textile history. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 05:45:56 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8U9jtej028528 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:45:55 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8U9jm1Q015230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:45:52 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8U9jKqf008446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:45:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U9jHUM091567; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:45:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8U9jFG4091539 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:45:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from aylwengg@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so2491642rvb.11 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date; bh=kNXuT9b9K59sBbVuF3/aPEv9LREgF3BfOEgVYL3p46w=; b=vtYNbGYGU6Qa5a8/dAa9kdxxfMz0CNrXN/etkPfPKZHTkt2PFUUn+fJZ9pMtqGx/wz lfpADCQjwDizd/0fw3ti22lWXvOvZ3L7kCoB5f6kNqP9TcNrHrydpymTVaM9Y5rUX2lo roBVc4KiDKfLbnYtMzJWMk7ZbEaMTQvW0RiNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date; b=kk6BPdEheXSjmERabaPCHAM2242oMxZZ51HOHmzFhVPk3OOlMkch6RSqBZXf0eMF6o kY39qm8MnKhS6grfdVn/WEkl3xwYfWlAj3BXX1dIWjoQSvdRP3L+rJNVuJgIBsTNgTwY VR6qOS2wY5h0X/MrlE0mzXGEIlMHErdD2J+kY= Received: by 10.141.137.8 with SMTP id p8mr3231100rvn.163.1222767913904; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?114.72.113.34? ([114.72.113.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm1992994rvb.1.2008.09.30.02.45.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <525FBE6A-7F81-473C-BEF6-97EFCFA50A09@gmail.com> From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden To: h-costume X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5B108) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5B108) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:44:53 +1000 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Help - TV 410 pattern X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 21a186c2-7156-46a2-a28d-4475e7edc26b X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E1F54C.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Bye, Aylwen Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Sent from my iPhone 0409817623 _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 06:34:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UAYqe0002715 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UAYguR000588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UAYP1U010855 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:34:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UAYOtj017507; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:34:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UAYLXu017419 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:34:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Debloughcostumes@aol.com) Received: from Debloughcostumes@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c29.422199f4 (39329) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Debloughcostumes@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:10 EDT To: h-costume@indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO In a message dated 30/09/2008 06:03:08 GMT Standard Time, h-costume-request@indra.com writes: PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. Well on my work dummy is an ATS desert uniform for a museum. But other than that, there's my wedding dress (on work table and embroidery hoop), two bridesmaid dresses (sketch pad), and a load of wasitcoats (pattern cutting shelf). Plently of time, with two months to go! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 06:42:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UAgpeW003548 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:42:51 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UAgk7F018647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:42:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UAgSnR011204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:42:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UAgSV5022037; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:42:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from alexandria29.2mhost.com (alexandria29.2mhost.com [75.126.152.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UAgPWU021956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:42:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from suzi@suziclarke.co.uk) Received: from 79-73-103-89.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([79.73.103.89] helo=suzi.suziclarke.co.uk) by alexandria29.2mhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkcgN-0005sC-PO for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:42:20 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930113644.01191180@suziclarke.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:42:08 +0100 To: Historical Costume From: Suzi Clarke In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alexandria29.2mhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - indra.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - suziclarke.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO At 19:09 29/09/2008, you wrote: >It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, >company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th >Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical >locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making >something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? >--cin >Cynthia Barnes >CinBarnes@gmail.com > >PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on >the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on >your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the >embroidery hoop. On my worktable - fabric and pattern for three sets of 1776 stays (Diderot), and three sets of pocket hoops to go with. In a bag 2 linen and one cotton shift (Costume Closeup pattern). Hanging on a hook a bag full of sample fabrics that I have to bully persuade the ladies to like. Hanging on a rail, the first dress I ever made as a freelance (1983 thanks for asking) which I am fiddling with to make into a 1780's dress. And waiting to be torn into three petticoats, a bolt of calico - muslin to you. I should be working, shouldn't I, not sitting at the computer? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:55:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO She _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 07:04:59 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UB4wQa007487 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:04:58 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UB4oXM025776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:04:54 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UB4J2S012396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:04:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UB4Jsg035642; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:04:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.33]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UB4G2L035564 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:04:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tania_gr17@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97317 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2008 11:04:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Kl6hG4IU+LY+9AMLCxde06jAGnR/v22Dq4qWI+aVte6SuN9HeQuCms5TeJDQXwfjnV0yG7hAbT0pKoRZ56H6ZnKtqcRi2SWHRk5d5TQn6mXgYV8+hEj+dcZKQDsvYLEVmAVQFPCJRfDaQdMVofzpuVKAgXO++Hf8u6E6K4+ZNpA=; X-YMail-OSG: Pi4n60AVM1nFX9jhOl3NTLIXpr3n7KNC0mSv_FXs2cgx1hsQON3wIFUhuOZ9M_h_ojYKkqv.8v7QEay6zq9Z2kFsq3sZ5YtcMJvCK1uGxbV4YvH_yDJbdb09xRAMImHO8nL0u3B62czm2ZrSa_uCGqAEsJkM Received: from [131.165.52.130] by web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:04:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tania Gruning To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <992536.97082.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? 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In midst preparation, if I can get my butt off my couch, are 2 pair of contemporary pants.I am having dead trouble trying to find pants/trousers that fits, since I have frog thighs, that is what my sewing teacher calls them. Lets just say that the measurement for hip 2 is quite a bit larger than hip 1 ;-p Warning mini rant. WHY does clothes producers that sells clothes in Denmark assume that a size 36 us size 6 (I think) are 6 feet tall and have no hips whatsoever??!!!?? I am 5'1" and I have hips, so even if I find some that fits in the waist, I feel like an overstuffed sausage in the legs. If they fit on the hips then I can pull out the waistband at least 3 inches. /rant off Tania (Denmark) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 07:42:42 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UBge6i016288 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:42:40 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UBgVc0032080 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:42:35 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UBg0Nh015043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:42:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UBg0YE057492; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:42:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp0.av-mx.com (smtp0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.56]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UBfvlr057456 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:41:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from twgilbert@fairpoint.net) Received: from Gilbert (unknown [67.158.170.59]) (Authenticated sender: twgilbert@fairpoint.net) by smtp0.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C502A1BFB58 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Gilbert" To: "Historical Costume" References: <20080929134436.rjugeqldcogss4o4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080929134436.rjugeqldcogss4o4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:41:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 08:00:51 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UC0ojt019105 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:00:51 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UC0dCO009108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:00:42 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UAstFH011970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:54:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UAstsR030342; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:54:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.35]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UAscEE030105 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:54:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tania_gr17@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 99954 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2008 10:54:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gi+d/phkvcUF8ujX8aFBi9ZeCubOdrQ5hpkc1Q4wWKwQLE21U0KcOP4pQmJhI4xR/3i/1VN+6VQt/3zLKRZxyWnlAQQbCX+7aS+pvis6KOaAJpDDF6WaOWPgD93w122xevfrl295VsVn50dVpl0V0zE18H3VHJUHWfiCUJLi5fA=; X-YMail-OSG: es1MJx8VM1khuZkSWjFQXPXsDEQYmQOt.tfvzjI7pACzpuSTRLjoqUAYevePr7HzwyT_jRF5UjVDiM0INOtzb18obgFuTX8gLX_4Fh4J98qyOTviGgv1jzSaRoMaUM9ymPQR4R7lKKoXUK.nXzlCjyeNkHJR Received: from [131.165.52.130] by web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:54:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:54:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tania Gruning To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <119741.99462.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:15:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My patience, -C. ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 08:25:26 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UCPQIJ021922 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:25:26 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UCPLvo000862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:25:25 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UCP6Cm018510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:25:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UCP69O087433; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:25:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.156]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UCP3Be087342 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:25:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from laswa@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY106-W41 ([65.54.161.141]) by bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:24:57 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.229.153.231] From: zelda crusher To: Historical Costume Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:24:57 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1222776882.48e218324e929@webmail.netspace.net.au> References: <1222776882.48e218324e929@webmail.netspace.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2008 12:24:57.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D4FBF10:01C922F7] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Laurie _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 09:21:58 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UDLwHa006721 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:58 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UDLq0S009618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:56 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UDLRGt035517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:21:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UDLPcg054945; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:21:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UDLMkV054809 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:21:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from PasoVasz@aol.com) Received: from PasoVasz@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cb7.3d2e8929 (37251) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (c-98-221-5-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [98.221.5.48]) by cia-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA071-918348e227be39a; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:06 -0400 Message-Id: From: Susan Data-Samtak To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930113644.01191180@suziclarke.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:01 -0400 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930113644.01191180@suziclarke.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-AOL-IP: 98.221.5.48 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d85874ab-cc77-4b7c-8bb7-18916d5d8871 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48E227F0.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! 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Susan _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 10:06:57 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UE6vDT010052 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:06:57 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UE6pPU019933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:06:55 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UE6TVU038790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:06:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UE6SVj091945; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:06:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f11.google.com (mail-gx0-f11.google.com [209.85.217.11]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UE6RdJ091858 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:06:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garbaholic@gmail.com) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so11456025gxk.11 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:06:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MYYUbxuKrkQedwqGrEdku9xwBY+/y61TW5owMWj2d/8=; b=AqBkYY/mP+ja30YuzMMPe9qb61EpCvQbUYwYSKAdP2nopKxTq8CjHnT6jvWaZ1IWEC 9PZmjJ65KPgIrP+Oa3cQMgvAX974BVPKozU9rKYVMHcajmWmHyNq1TlCeAWyVVgJoh19 Ektk5pJYYO+CEFIiti7h/E6wp0Z924i8Oc8rI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Kym5oiAwyMqKOH5vQPQAoqcDnbwNT/hFnKMjUy26pe3c0eaYR50UConZdq2Sc+Nvb4 hJaG3wFQIfQhU15fg1hiBenXgJsuxdQFhuuCa/LLrh2FgzAe0VH9UV3kh6jDdz//wuvO jZ+/2/wAcpkmhlV8dS/URuQUVDaANJgaiZckA= Received: by 10.90.51.13 with SMTP id y13mr3893895agy.9.1222783582176; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.66.6 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <870801590809300706h73c9b6f6j75aa0a3d1b5fa339@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:06:22 -0500 From: "Alexandria Doyle" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 293806ff-fa30-4676-ad98-0da319ab42a6 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E2327B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:06:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I have several projects working, 1. redressing an inexpensive porcelan doll - my granddaughter opted for the pretty witch for her Halloween/birthday party. She'll be dressed in purple satin, lots of sparkly tulle in black and purple with a broom of purple silk flowers. 2. Landsknetch for my son. Just got in the linen for shirt, pants and doublet, and already had the wool for the waffenrock. I just have to get the red velvet for the trim on the 'rock and will be ready to go. 3. "Davy Crockett" for a co-worker (In exchange for helping with the haunted house at the aforementioned party) He's wanting to go "historical" and given me free range with what this means, so I'm still very tentative with this one. I have the cut for the shirt, and will be making a vest and jacket, though it's so far afield from what I usually do. Any one have some suggestions for the cut of a men's coat? He referenced the latest Alamo movie as sort of what he wanted.... 4. I'm finishing up the blackwork sleeves for an Elizabethan smock. and the dress of a thousand pearls...my version of the Pelican portrait. other than that, not much... alex On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, wrote: > > In a message dated 30/09/2008 06:03:08 GMT Standard Time, > h-costume-request@indra.com writes: > > PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on > the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on > your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the > embroidery hoop. > > > Well on my work dummy is an ATS desert uniform for a museum. > > But other than that, there's my wedding dress (on work table and embroidery > hoop), two bridesmaid dresses (sketch pad), and a load of wasitcoats (pattern > cutting shelf). > > Plently of time, with two months to go! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- "I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday..." ;) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 11:27:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UFRLbJ014252 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:27:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UFRExt017510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:27:18 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UFLR5d046302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UFLPAq070503; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UFLNxx070387 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from audreybmorin@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so11661929gxk.23 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:21:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IUnIDLl3TdIKW4ukuKOR15SrTJzBs/GYCsGyu8hxklc=; b=XjJJNbIqlwDsmWpiDfCbJHIrlxQMLp9TQLU9ipl6m+pN4/dKnyNA8FqMY9usdyT8Io edJqzSYHpu1Hrb2VeVng/f6yq/DjbMqCueZ7eygB1FW26W3sD90roihprR/pIHliTyFM 0X1Boar0cTAdihjkJjVaVA5xwsbytv9BgJzck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MEL8g4ni3h4Hyn+av+IGxxQ5H5/8GYc3ldeDgN54uncU3v1YH3nzmKJwqiBQmNd4za v0gEy2fXGoHcuMgxFDgv25pEWtOw/RKQK3hhH5wxvenjHhnk6SBR7SRJOgmVHjXVdvD9 LtlHltG9jQC8A/BVMxh5Vo1JNM1jlXJ3Hrypk= Received: by 10.90.71.16 with SMTP id t16mr7468898aga.45.1222788069272; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.92.18 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <16a2233a0809300821w5d941db5xd31cf9d902b35a2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:21:09 -0400 From: "Audrey Bergeron-Morin" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930113644.01191180@suziclarke.co.uk> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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You bet! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 12:00:19 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UG0InP015893 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:00:18 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UG08ko024495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:00:14 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UFxhZh053536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:59:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UFxdfe012923; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:59:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from itasca.net (magilla.itasca.net [12.157.198.4]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UFxZSo012829 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:59:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from pixel@itasca.net) Received: from pixel (helo=localhost) by itasca.net with local-esmtp (Exim 4.67 and XAMS 0.0.15) id 1Kkhgg-0006RV-FH for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:02:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:02:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" X-X-Sender: pixel@magilla.itasca.net To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a44ef36e-597a-4c50-8ef3-487cbf5db3b4 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48E24D09.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:00:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO On the sewing table (currently playing the part of my dummy) are a 13th c. gown in dark blue wool that needs hemming and readjusting the dratted neck placket, a 13th c. gown in sage green lightweight linen that needs armscye gussets, seam finishing, and hemming, and then there's a piece of white linen that needs to become veils. The shoes (silver brocade upholstery fabric with leather soles) need to be fitted and finished, and if I'm good I'll manage a smock, either linen or silk. On the embroidery frame is a set of cuffs for the blue gown--white silk on dark blue linen. The design is a pattern from a 12th c. German altar frontal that I found in Nancy Spies's book "Here Be Wyverns". And all before next Friday! Well, except the green dress. That doesn't have a deadline. Jen/Margaret _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 13:16:24 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UHGN1N021575 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:24 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UHGEMw018259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:18 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UHFFDG061052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:15:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UHFClx097735; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:15:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UHFAo5097621 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:15:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from maggiros@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so11844031gxk.23 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:15:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=irIOpHEi3/24QHtwyDVPy6WL1/e+suVd1f2ySxdhSp8=; b=qBHhj6wF9ML8kGsnGA3h1cZpzGycCgbjGxbZLpzzotX+L7ejfNveO2IWAIM3RFvx4w aVP1jyx8pVnL+oHnXTCljHKm8V7lOG0B83gJeYJtGHsTSUQKMDSCEsRLW+CQ4svr+eJZ CWBTqDDV5TCRRCtfdKhEiFrpOLUjxpYw5AU1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=orhKB5Bv41HHOj2T0GP6mbBzCXA13sG1kIO11YGrFEu4KGz2FEpb2CQPOkB7D5vqBI fx1ycB9kN90IxuLrA+Mtq2zV9Pb/YJOwqbSEc++GXvLorDtl2yWgTzftcPMtVwhbLs01 91Vdd4n0xSxeXFuroJGKrPtSIuGmcK4C2hv/Q= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr7911930wae.105.1222794903466; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.124.10 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:15:03 -0700 From: Maggie To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <992536.97082.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <992536.97082.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 54f9b8d3-12c4-4c09-8ae7-a39cabbcb325 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48E25EDE.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I think you're supposed to be wearing 3" to 4" heels with any pair of pants. There's no accounting for the other proportional issues. I'm 5'3" and too wide in my middle aged middle so petit pants are too short in the crotch and average ones are 4 inches too long in the leg. MaggiRos On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Tania Gruning wrote: > She is wearing a wool sweater that shrank a bit in the wash, so I pulled it > on her to block it out a bit, seems to be working okay. > On the planning stage is a traditional japanese kimone made out of a > gorgous printed linen I scored on sale. The fabric print pattern looks > authentic. > At some point I plan to do an embroidered formal japanese kimono ensemble, > but that is going to be a while off. > In midst preparation, if I can get my butt off my couch, are 2 pair of > contemporary pants.I am having dead trouble trying to find pants/trousers > that fits, since I have frog thighs, that is what my sewing teacher calls > them. Lets just say that the measurement for hip 2 is quite a bit larger > than hip 1 ;-p > Warning mini rant. WHY does clothes producers that sells clothes in Denmark > assume that a size 36 us size 6 (I think) are 6 feet tall and have no hips > whatsoever??!!!?? I am 5'1" and I have hips, so even if I find some that > fits in the waist, I feel like an overstuffed sausage in the legs. If they > fit on the hips then I can pull out the waistband at least 3 inches. /rant > off > > -- Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback.html or your favorite online bookseller _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 13:27:39 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UHRdcg021958 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UHRXcl031615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UHQuNm062306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UHQtOR016096; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UHQqAA016041 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from unicorn@surewest.net) Received: (qmail 27420 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2008 10:25:46 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 27397, pid: 27418, t: 0.1781s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO Alfheim) (216.93.209.50) by smtp2 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2008 10:25:46 -0700 From: "Joan Broneske" To: "'Historical Costume'" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckjIU0HiJ5l7gZXTWqvye6aFJXKRAAAEvYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My poor dressforms (plural) are wearing plastic garbage bags right now and are waiting to move 3,000 miles away.... _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 14:04:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UI4h8Q024007 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:04:43 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UI4bv3020633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:04:41 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UI48Pd067431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:04:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UI47j9063052; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:04:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from outbound-mail.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.15]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UI423A062826 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:04:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from susang45@juno.com) X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABEQE4R3AAUTDR2 for (sender ); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: cb/ea7bePhVMh7FNTl3OU/b3pqOzdq8zAjqNraFlUgT4a5QFVLiWnw== Received: (from susang45@juno.com) by webmail10.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail) id NWCVWC4C; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:03:06 PDT Received: from [69.212.83.96] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:02:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.212.83.96] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "susang45@juno.com" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:02:51 GMT To: h-costume@indra.com X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20080930.140251.16319.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3179741931 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.150|webmail10.dca.untd.com|outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com|susang45@juno.com X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: fc10af4d-d4ba-45b1-a7db-2e2fcce97800 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E26D53.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My workbench is gloriously empty after being full of clutter for far too long. In the near future I plan to make soft sculpture armor for my daughter who said she wanted to be a knight for Halloween. (Take that Disney Princesses.) I recently found a silver graduation robe that I think will work well for play armor. It certainly sucked for an actual graduation since it looked like aluminum foil in all the pictures. In the next few months I'll be working on 12th century clothing for the whole family. There is a themed SCA event in the spring that has everyone around here thinking bliaut. Cheers, Mary _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 14:48:23 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UImNV1026401 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:48:23 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UImDLk021251 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:48:17 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UIlYV6073511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:47:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UIlXnd025690; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:47:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from vms172073pub.verizon.net (vms172073pub.verizon.net [206.46.172.73]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UIlUR6025557 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:47:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from hdpinto@verizon.net) Received: from HELENPINTO ([71.162.28.31]) by vms172073.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K8000KCLUTRKHT0@vms172073.mailsrvcs.net> for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:47:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:46:33 -0400 From: "Helen Pinto" To: "Historical Costume" Message-id: <089e01c9232c$df0ceff0$2f01a8c0@HELENPINTO> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <648239.37457.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:48:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO No dress dummies at my house, and nothing historical right now. However, the dining room table is covered with the fabric for two interview suits and all the polarfleece and velour I cut last winter for pullovers. Fall is arriving with a vengeance tomorrow. -Helen/Aidan _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 14:56:21 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UIuLnL026807 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:56:21 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UIuD6f024574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:56:19 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UIu0mL074358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:56:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UIu0GE036028; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:56:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UItvXY035965 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:55:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from audreybmorin@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so45195ele.8 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LEPmflITEyD9pPJ038tSHCF1BmqOjTmdqE5YvmnQAqw=; b=V3sMx7vSIIWdvzRHTf3OWEpBLejDphjfgYq1vAWlSMifI+AxjMl/vQ/Xxi4JSOzJSI mxn5LTI/hkoK+eIIuj0KHdFmcnz3zcCmR296R5IOn+7krrlsw+TTqYh2AEVtZKJaGLMi R8hZFSYzcfpHRP2qrro586BAxVPlbvCuhPFuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hz0k9gMxsJ/zwFS37uljfH85W2+ry20ryiuwWhdmZ5ymw2OcueyJOVeGkKJIRD6gn6 NmYA0lFXjoZxPJqJVhRqhVgHIQM/zcccPeBPV+0TpBrwUGQcpBLej5mYIco3JI1Nl4Jw SvdA2a18xnRVS5SIN6VDCg0aqkFrZxz3OLuDM= Received: by 10.90.53.1 with SMTP id b1mr7730429aga.34.1222800956726; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.92.18 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:55:56 -0400 From: "Audrey Bergeron-Morin" To: "Historical Costume" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: b410324d-8652-4acd-8daa-b57c346c4869 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E2764D.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:56:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Well, this is sort of OT, but not quite. We're invited to a Halloween party, where the theme is movie characters, and the sub-theme is something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at the Big4 patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top left) http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 Can anyone direct me to a movie containing an outfit that looks like this? (Hey, if it's a Western, it's at least historicaloid!) We have a few other nice ideas if this one doesn't work out... _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 14:58:38 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UIwcID026955 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:58:38 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UIwXAs026390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:58:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UIwGFT074653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:58:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UIwGMv038853; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:58:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f14.google.com (mail-gx0-f14.google.com [209.85.217.14]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UIvtPj038315 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:58:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cinbarnes@gmail.com) Received: by mail-gx0-f14.google.com with SMTP id 7so11986229gxk.23 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=3CM//PNo6JzVMvICbwB67g71vr8faJja3FNuyc/sa3E=; b=VkKE63meTMshcGF6WckpySzWbExhSO7b0cpvrzVQsvSOC4V2VDGs2p2CURXUfYbkmC Sb4lhuONd1ogK7uZitx44qnHQ4FaNTImBPSgx3We0QeuADynM9NMo5GHeScCwKuZP138 2OKOa44186K/WTfUxBywAEK+Z1lgCR1E/8rFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j0pMSndXlEdr8rt63ujkRhZSxi2KfVfgRJMPPuJUjHIFbyCy23jzr+Ot1CWZlhz1ES JHn5f2LyI70fekEw8ChHYY5drQ33VEmOX7uEi0ty+FTmW8GNP22UbnnqAne2fdA/Zt9V cwzqE/1/IczKBdE3728QAYj63E8Tt8NuFfw38= Received: by 10.151.45.6 with SMTP id x6mr10472425ybj.110.1222801094244; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.109.10 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:58:13 -0700 From: Cin To: h-cost MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: d35d6fc2-f1df-4f50-97ea-56ca2efd1fd3 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E276D9.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:58:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO >Cin, when you ask what others are doing you should tell us what you are doing. So what are you doing? >-Kathy Thanks for keeping me honest! Sure, I'll play the game. Lessee, Euprosnia once again has on the c1580s English Ren with the giagantic sleeves that I just restarted, which is what reminded me to start the "what's your dummy wearing" thread. I dont know why this one keeps being under-inspiring. The dining table has a whitework set of ruffs & cuffs that are almost done. They are small & relatively sensible. In a corner is scraps from the 1530s red melton cloth cap that I just cut out. It goes with the gent's 1530s suit. At the other end of the table is the freshly cut out wine colored bodice c1580s with the just-washed linen to line it. The halltree is festooned in just purchased fabrics for a gentleman's 1530s suit in the style of Henry VIII. There's scraps silks & cabbage for the 2nd mockup and a full set of silks & linens for the final one. That's probably a 2 year project all together. I'm just the shopmistress on that project. Also on the halltree, there's a recently repaired Ginger Rogers dress that needs to go back to it's owner. The closet door frame in the costume room sports a 1470s houppeland, that needs a small bit of mending. There's a 1920s look black spangled & lace net over beige chiffon dress that I was just given, that also needs a small bit of mending. The lamp is wearing a black fox stole vintage 1940s. --cin Cynthia Barnes CinBarnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:17:17 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJH8OV027841 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:17:17 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJGqp2000891 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:17:05 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJGBh0076346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJGAEN061786; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJG7VC061638 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from monicaspence@optonline.net) Received: from your1a4d29f243 (ool-457fe76e.dyn.optonline.net [69.127.231.110]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0K800098FW6IB5A1@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:15:51 -0400 From: monica spence In-reply-to: <089e01c9232c$df0ceff0$2f01a8c0@HELENPINTO> To: Historical Costume Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ae810429-b5d9-49c3-80d4-c8f8d0ac0e53 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E27B24.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:17:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Dress forms? OY! I am just beginning to find mine. In April we started to renovate our kitchen from the studs out. It is almost October and as I write this I am putting clean dishes into the 6 shelf, 58" long x 24" deep dish pantry. I have not seen some of this stuff since we moved into the house 15 years ago. One say I hope to be able to use my sewing room for something otherthan storage! Monica/ Catriona -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com]On Behalf Of Helen Pinto Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:47 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? No dress dummies at my house, and nothing historical right now. However, the dining room table is covered with the fabric for two interview suits and all the polarfleece and velour I cut last winter for pullovers. Fall is arriving with a vengeance tomorrow. -Helen/Aidan _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:22:29 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJMTi3028142 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:22:29 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJMMJJ009017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:22:26 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJM0Ge076909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:22:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJLwBi068795; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:21:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from cgp.netins.net (f1phy.netins.net [167.142.228.65]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJLtUX068707 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:21:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from landofoz@netins.net) X-netINS-MPP: scanned Received: from [67.55.167.47] (account landofoz@netins.net HELO denise8541f2db) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 1809340101 for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: <055401c92331$d2b189f0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> From: "Land of Oz" To: "Historical Costume" References: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:22:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 191fb09a-0eab-4fa7-850e-71164ef553aa X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E27C6E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:22:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > Well, this is sort of OT, but not quite. We're invited to a Halloween > party, where the theme is movie characters, and the sub-theme is > something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. > Will a tv show character work? There is an episode of Firefly where they defend a whorehouse with several inhabitants dressed in different versions of something like this. Fits in with the "something old/new" as it's a space western set in the future. Otherwise, these movies have characters in "whorehouse" outfits. The best little whorehouse in Texas Maverick (possibly) Silverado Wild, Wild West (the new one) I know there are a lot more. Good Luck Denise B _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:32:26 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJWPlk029317 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:25 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJWKdV013555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:24 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJW7qO077802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:32:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJW78c081309; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:32:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from zenobia.reddawn.net (rrcs-67-52-227-86.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.227.86]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJW2JZ081086 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:32:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dawn@reddawn.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (angel.reddawn.net [10.0.0.3]) by zenobia.reddawn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1656913E249 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48E28C9F.3040907@reddawn.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:31:27 -0600 From: Dawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Historical Costume References: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 036c4575-bbf6-430b-a84b-332d8bc4cc76 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E27EC4.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: > I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at the Big4 > patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top left) > http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 > > Can anyone direct me to a movie containing an outfit that looks like > this? (Hey, if it's a Western, it's at least historicaloid!) Moulin Rouge! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009/ Dawn _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJXYZp029427 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:33:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJVx1n020478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJVSnU077748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:31:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJVSZm080491; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:31:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from magicmail.collinscom.net (mail.collinscom.net [67.130.67.21]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UJVNVj080270 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:31:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from fathallas@collinscom.net) Received: (qmail 15877 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2008 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edwardstepobxw) (65.125.138.2) by magicmail.collinscom.net with SMTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:31:17 -0600 From: "Frank A Thallas Jr" To: "'Historical Costume'" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:31:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c9233b$8a0425a0$c90d140a@edwardstepobxw> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AckjMRY5QKsiH9O4RlyuvzMIOUNO7AACXcQg X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: fb624b18-6c28-42b0-86f5-605233d83243 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m05 with ID 48E27EAF.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m05.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Headless Annie was wearing the last of a half-dozen "peasant" blouses I made for around-the-farm wear; now she is draped in 8 yards of cream-colored raw silk with a woven "plaid" texture that I love, but can't decide what to do with... The work box and embroidery frame are holding a rushnyk for a large icon stand, being worked in traditional Ukrainian cross-stitch patterns and blackwork; The work bag is filling with "5 hour baby sweaters" + caps + booties to be sent to a "mother and child" clinic in Romania (great way to use up the yarn stash, too!) assuming they all come out in sizes that will fit actual babies; But daytime hours (when not beguiled away from work by the computer) are, at this time of year, for "redressing" the house - time for all the summer lace curtains, etc, to come down, and the draft-blocking drapes, wall hangings, quilts, rugs, etc to come out of the cedar chests.... Liadain Should be workin' THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO "You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..." wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:36:25 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJaPeL029852 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:25 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJaJqm016149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:23 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJUWR0077629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:30:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJUW0l079265; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:30:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UJUPar078974 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:30:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h.zickermann@gmx.de) Message-Id: <200809301930.m8UJUPar078974@net.indra.com> Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2008 19:30:19 -0000 Received: from p548E79DA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO PC286562288218.gmx.de) [84.142.121.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 30 Sep 2008 21:30:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #23039962 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Fxsg+5oaFrkiKSPJ5DbL/sKBmKRealuYVo6pi6f 1EVdCnhVVhCAVZ X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:30:14 +0200 To: Historical Costume From: Hanna Zickermann In-Reply-To: References: <992536.97082.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 2dca8900-e4e1-4e64-8b43-0671e040e9cc X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E27FB3.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO My dressform is still wearing D=FCrer=B4s = "N=FCrnbergerin im Hauskleid". I finished it in = June for my master craftswoman degree in = costuming and still found no place to store the = pleated apron. Here=B4s a picture of the costume = "in action": http://s6.directupload.net/file/d/1464/aob843cf_jpg.htm :-) On top of that, there=B4s my boyfriend=B4s cotehardie = for SCA-wear. I cut it two years ago, since then = I learned about proper fitting, and now I need to re-model it... And then there are two modern panties, which I = want to attach to blouses. I=B4ve seen blouses with = attached panties with snap fasteners between the = legs and was intrigued- I *hate* it when my tops creep out of my bottoms! Hanna At 19:15 30.09.2008, you wrote: >I think you're supposed to be wearing 3" to 4" heels with any pair of pant= s. >There's no accounting for the other proportional issues. I'm 5'3" and too >wide in my middle aged middle so petit pants are too short in the crotch a= nd >average ones are 4 inches too long in the leg. > >MaggiRos > >On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Tania Gruning wrot= e: > > > She is wearing a wool sweater that shrank a bit in the wash, so I pulle= d it > > on her to block it out a bit, seems to be working okay. > > On the planning stage is a traditional japanese kimone made out of a > > gorgous printed linen I scored on sale. The fabric print pattern looks > > authentic. > > At some point I plan to do an embroidered formal japanese kimono ensemb= le, > > but that is going to be a while off. > > In midst preparation, if I can get my butt off my couch, are 2 pair of > > contemporary pants.I am having dead trouble trying to find pants/trouse= rs > > that fits, since I have frog thighs, that is what my sewing teacher cal= ls > > them. Lets just say that the measurement for hip 2 is quite a bit larger > > than hip 1 ;-p > > Warning mini rant. WHY does clothes producers that sells clothes in Den= mark > > assume that a size 36 us size 6 (I think) are 6 feet tall and have no h= ips > > whatsoever??!!!?? I am 5'1" and I have hips, so even if I find some that > > fits in the waist, I feel like an overstuffed sausage in the legs. If t= hey > > fit on the hips then I can pull out the waistband at least 3 inches. /r= ant > > off > > > > >-- >Maggie Secara >~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 >ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 >Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback.html or your >favorite online bookseller >_______________________________________________ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 15:59:45 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UJxjrX031630 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:59:45 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UJxdi0002716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:59:43 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UJxBgX080721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJxBrG014178; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail.collierfam.com (collierfam.com [216.65.44.63]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UJx6xr014104 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from sharon@collierfam.com) Received: from bobfamilyroom [216.65.44.63] by mail.collierfam.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A4BEC01500B8; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:57:50 +0000 From: "Sharon Collier" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <648239.37457.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:58:09 -0700 Message-ID: <099948D9DF6341188497A3A9077E885B@bobfamilyroom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01C922FC.30ADA880" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AckjKNefWet0XC2FQ5GQ6htRPjsHsAADRflQ In-Reply-To: <648239.37457.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-CommKal-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude for spam and viruses. X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 66ee66dd-cf17-41aa-b753-c609970aa49f X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E2852B.005 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:59:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C922FC.30ADA880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My son wanted to be a clone trooper for last Halloween. My husband found a site online that showed how a guy made armor using those flat(less than 1/8" thick) sheets of foam.It turned out great!Here's a picture (I hope. Maybe you could use spray adhesive to glue the material onto the flat foam sheets. Sharon C. -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:17 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? My workbench is gloriously empty after being full of clutter for far too long. In the near future I plan to make soft sculpture armor for my daughter who said she wanted to be a knight for Halloween. (Take that Disney Princesses.) I recently found a silver graduation robe that I think will work well for play armor. It certainly sucked for an actual graduation since it looked like aluminum foil in all the pictures. In the next few months I'll be working on 12th century clothing for the whole family. There is a themed SCA event in the spring that has everyone around here thinking bliaut. Cheers, Mary _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C922FC.30ADA880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C922FC.30ADA880-- From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 16:56:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UKuAEH001562 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:56:10 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UKu4nf013901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:56:08 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UKtfC4086821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:55:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UKtas5074626; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:55:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.19]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UKtWH7074428 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:55:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from celticredhead2002@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75474 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2008 20:55:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Ga94FLYQNm7WUSBo26rxDIBPBrTd3wHuySXwhcVIDvHvc5NWsPuL76m4po16zmmE20irrVjzictAHfokbEZn9n+p+1BYijTYB6MTOOYR5DBZdmKANz1Vptf4SP1yeWSpwDXzQof9nKnI0ou3IOrIf7RLQPUcl401w75rEhWFpqw=; X-YMail-OSG: a.bzfN4VM1mPVuk7A6YS2_mCBqY.IzOt13ajxe4gb1v56Pcq8lge8C9DOWnDwBPa8MGmK.g9hCs2gRJTwGO78IbdTgpzLh8GWO7IDaeJUb_rj79OhtzM9sdlO.bQbpBwBQNysrP4l1Pk30fEI0Hjo8URLDIb8X3ZXLY9BiGfwiVRFmIx5TI- Received: from [96.229.160.200] by web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:55:26 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Melody Watts To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930113644.01191180@suziclarke.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <642769.74803.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 41b969aa-0e63-4e6e-b365-724ce05dcabf X-Miltered: at mailchk-m04 with ID 48E29264.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:56:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m04.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I can tell you what _Should_ be on my mini me, the same darn Refaire dress that I've worn for the last 10 years,being torn apart and set to right. Must confess to the skirt being on an elastic band waist.I was too pressed for time when I bought it off ebay, to convert it to a proper waist band. The bodice is a generic cut, soft point at bottom ,semi rounded neckline. Laces up both sides. Sleeves were set in,but I'm getting a bit claustriphobic in my old age and couldn't pull the bodice over my head and not freak out. so i removed the sleeves ,sewed up the arm seams and made them tie ons. It really a lovely red and gold brocade and so non descript it can go Elizabethan or Italian depending on the accessories. If I don't actually cut anything I can convert back and forth with a seam here or there. So, I guess it just a waistband for now.....or maybe a slight Italian flavor....AHHHHHHH! I'm wishy- washy-er then Charlie Brown........ melody Suzi Clarke wrote: At 19:09 29/09/2008, you wrote: >It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, theater season, >company dinners, Diskens Fair, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th >Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical >locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making >something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? >--cin >Cynthia Barnes >CinBarnes@gmail.com > >PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on >the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's on >your design sketchbook, worktable, at the sewing machine or in the >embroidery hoop. On my worktable - fabric and pattern for three sets of 1776 stays (Diderot), and three sets of pocket hoops to go with. In a bag 2 linen and one cotton shift (Costume Closeup pattern). Hanging on a hook a bag full of sample fabrics that I have to bully persuade the ladies to like. Hanging on a rail, the first dress I ever made as a freelance (1983 thanks for asking) which I am fiddling with to make into a 1780's dress. And waiting to be torn into three petticoats, a bolt of calico - muslin to you. I should be working, shouldn't I, not sitting at the computer? Suzi _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 17:56:37 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8ULuavj004640 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:56:37 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8ULuTLg016442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:56:34 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8ULu4nX091392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:56:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8ULu2UG036973; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:56:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8ULtvvb036822 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:55:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from monicaspence@optonline.net) Received: from your1a4d29f243 (ool-457fe76e.dyn.optonline.net [69.127.231.110]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0K8100DF53KYCTS0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:55:44 -0400 From: monica spence In-reply-to: <200809301930.m8UJUPar078974@net.indra.com> To: Historical Costume Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:56:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Hanna, The dress is lovely. Thanks for sharing. Monica -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com]On Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? My dressform is still wearing D=FCrer=B4s "N=FCrnbergerin im Hauskleid". I finished it in June for my master craftswoman degree in costuming and still found no place to store the pleated apron. Here=B4s a picture of the costume "in action": http://s6.directupload.net/file/d/1464/aob843cf_jpg.htm :-) >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 18:33:29 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UMXTIS006555 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:33:29 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UMXLnH012848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:33:27 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UMRr6w095122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:27:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UMRqfB067187; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:27:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.43]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UMRlVp067033 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:27:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 64593 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2008 22:27:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Y4mBetZFtqFGqZs0InCCNPa2FmUnhCqJF8+WorY3PIXPhdOV4AwH9a3X19QIt6neACBa3sTleDVAGrkcVR4Ih2qPzQkRqsFYrPIziENToqPxxzhYIfEoqBnoLtljy/PZr/Zdcvfwdl4Dp6ym12kkmaTBVoDkgU4cqmu07O3FA90=; X-YMail-OSG: _naENB4VM1njhda_ncNXMyN2_.Io2_v4QV4kFyIk3p6DSghpwO3.hjPcs7YN1gULe0geo60XxfakA8U1I9QcRu3iDjScLn53lcmE4p6wnvHveLgYlHdjr.cYUPFPyZ.NOn3bPZTi8n7UguoqWlmNyxEBwvOZu.40hkIgN2y.61VpQVGjMg-- Received: from [66.106.147.76] by web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:27:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <762583.63903.qm@web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 850b7535-b3d0-4edf-b3fc-3e9eae294d0e X-Miltered: at mailchk-m03 with ID 48E2A931.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:33:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I think these costumes, and #2895, are modeled after the series "Deadwood." Claudine ----- Original Message ---- From: Audrey Bergeron-Morin I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at the Big4 patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top left) http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 18:48:33 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UMmXAH007059 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:48:33 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UMmMP3020193 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:48:26 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UMm277097594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:48:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UMm2pt086420; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:48:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.76]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m8UMlwu3086291 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:47:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from shirleyjhobbs@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94860 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2008 22:47:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KSKFvZWV7LP+Gc8T4LvoRFL+VAVUFYnF/Tex5+VR5d0LjbC4BwIDbkPLzW54qBG7Ns+Ecg6bAwQKyXyGHmJ1LXeDJ7LVP9V2Qvsz5BargBKlzWTuRtgZi6lWw7caerSl/+DCNqQqFKJJ9pOBMirornoGLxfmD00WBGhKwuQ/4Ls= ; Message-ID: <609325.94101.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.226.19.28] by web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:47:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:47:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Cactus To: Historical Costume In-Reply-To: <762583.63903.qm@web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 4e25eeff-bb7a-4072-b6a1-6e632d7bd312 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E2ACB6.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:48:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO These are very "Hollywood", but if you don't mind that, go for it. Cactus --- On Tue, 9/30/08, cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com wrote: > From: cw15147-hcost00@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween > To: "Historical Costume" > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:27 PM > I think these costumes, and #2895, are modeled after the > series "Deadwood." > > > > Claudine > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Audrey Bergeron-Morin > > I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at > the Big4 > patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top > left) > http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 18:58:03 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UMw3AQ007532 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:58:03 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m03.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UMvv3n029065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:58:00 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UMvXKL098402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:57:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UMvWPw094127; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:57:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s29.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.165]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UMvRcM094014 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:57:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wickedfrau@msn.com) Received: from BAY133-W20 ([65.55.138.55]) by bay0-omc2-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [75.174.199.17] From: Saragrace Knauf To: Historical Costume Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:57:22 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2008 22:57:22.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[E61C4250:01C9234F] X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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Sg _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 19:26:39 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UNQdXX008995 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:26:39 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UNQYXI010635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:26:37 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UNQ9Cf000461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:26:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UNQ9H0019707; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:26:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UNQ6t8019662 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:26:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from audreybmorin@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i50so109617rne.11 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:26:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BUA0uI9pbQBKRsQDdlmH98JjhfSpKpWfO9R7AIBzafA=; b=dTftWcURzcvZiN+voYnlEw39HjLVYgmvEBz5XzrNoyD8MOM1DN3HfMyAK5LIRa+4CI /6tzu+6vXRUAbKgR+NWZqW2iqz8Zz8fNS55d0eAXrKyLfUmFK/86P7ZX9CSpH8MQ1k/G rzmUXnwM3Mi5Zb7OvHQiCbUzkbYpo7r3gQ1qI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VmyLXpiQQFWuBnFJdcXX/cL0LnnSgZOMlnQBzg7vrzu8hjXNrWJaKT/y0mJcqVTaDH oXfzkfDUJewJHMoBU64AgqA2PJIQvL3+THzjdfULcaYQUU3LegKKRxtprQZvOQh0DUIG ApMq7XBsBQFJrUwOrh02a4ipfvlNJItFXR+aQ= Received: by 10.90.113.17 with SMTP id l17mr8089176agc.20.1222817166581; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.92.18 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <16a2233a0809301626o1c4ff502ne1028adfe34b27b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:26:06 -0400 From: "Audrey Bergeron-Morin" To: "Historical Costume" In-Reply-To: <609325.94101.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <762583.63903.qm@web53610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <609325.94101.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 3ad6abcb-4a9a-4435-940c-63fa8c283ab5 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48E2B5AA.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:26:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > These are very "Hollywood", but if you don't mind that, go for it. Well, yes. The theme is "movie characters", they're supposed to be Hollywood... Thank you for all the suggestions. I'll see what I come up with... Of course, we might also end up going as Alice and the Cheshire cat, or Lara Croft and Indiana Jones, or some such silliness ;-) _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 19:31:09 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m8UNV9UF009275 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:31:09 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8UNV4Os008978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:31:07 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8UNPe9G000422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:25:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UNPeYv019349; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:25:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from grelber.thyrsus.com (static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.243.5]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8UNPaKt019300 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:25:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from cathy@thyrsus.com) Received: from minx.thyrsus.com (minx.thyrsus.com [192.168.1.21]) by grelber.thyrsus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1917E9F0650 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine Olanich Raymond To: Historical Costume Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:26:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <870801590809300706h73c9b6f6j75aa0a3d1b5fa339@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <870801590809300706h73c9b6f6j75aa0a3d1b5fa339@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809301926.08299.cathy@thyrsus.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: ed354356-9b60-4848-8df1-825363a6a162 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E2B6B8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:31:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I've been preoccupied with surgery and other things this year, so my projects have been more modest. On the Hanger of Doom right now; A Viking caftan that I plan to sew trim onto in archaeologically plausible patterns. Also in the works; Imperial Roman underwear; a stola; a 16th C Venetian camisia; and yet another Viking apron dress (based on yet another design theory). -- Cathy "yet another ADD-afflicted costumer" Raymond "We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand." --Randy Pausch _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 21:25:22 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m911PLud014473 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:25:22 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m911PGiW027904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:25:20 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m911On4S007816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:24:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m911OkLa096210; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:24:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m911OiPt096099 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:24:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lotsofteapots@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20081001012434.PQKC4798.mta31.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:34 -0400 Received: from OurComputer ([66.168.21.216]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20081001012433.HLLA3522.aarprv04.charter.net@OurComputer> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:33 -0400 From: "Rebecca Schmitt" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <1222776882.48e218324e929@webmail.netspace.net.au> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1222776882.48e218324e929@webmail.netspace.net.au> Thread-Index: Acki9jCi/GhBs2MkSMW3jJvIlO8h6wAbjgMQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Chzlrs: 0 X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? 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X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:25:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Ya know, I think this is the best answer yet! ************************ Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ************************* > My patience, > > -C. > > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 21:34:12 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m911YCrr015194 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:34:12 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m911Y7N9023000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:34:10 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m911XoZP008386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:33:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m911Xoma001645; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:33:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m911XllQ001564 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:33:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lotsofteapots@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20081001013338.QDQN3214.mta21.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:33:38 -0400 Received: from OurComputer ([66.168.21.216]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20081001013338.HYWN3522.aarprv04.charter.net@OurComputer> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:33:38 -0400 From: "Rebecca Schmitt" To: "'Historical Costume'" References: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:33:35 -0500 Message-ID: <938A042BE8834E30815519521E97C637@OurComputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AckjLjypskoT6rO/RjaAdev6563rFgANzKqQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Chzlrs: 0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: a18ecb2b-8c59-4f53-b960-11fe0b4c9679 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E2D38F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:34:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO How about a real "old" western? Destry Rides Again with Marlene Dietrch & Jimmy Stewart. (yeah, I know, Jimmy Stewart does not bring to mind "western," now does he?) This outfit definitely reminds me of one of her outfits in that movie :) http://www.marlene.com/films.html ************************ Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-bounces@indra.com > [mailto:h-costume-bounces@indra.com] On Behalf Of Audrey > Bergeron-Morin > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:56 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween > > Well, this is sort of OT, but not quite. We're invited to a > Halloween party, where the theme is movie characters, and the > sub-theme is something old, something new, something > borrowed, something blue. > > I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at the > Big4 patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top left) > http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 > > Can anyone direct me to a movie containing an outfit that > looks like this? (Hey, if it's a Western, it's at least > historicaloid!) > > We have a few other nice ideas if this one doesn't work out... > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 22:14:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m912Eqne019930 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:14:52 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m912Ekuq015560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:14:50 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m912EXA5011046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:14:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m912EWY1027494; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:14:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from qsmtp4.america.net (qsmtp4.america.net [69.60.160.247]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m912ETU1027456 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:14:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ladymaggie@justinanimator.com) Message-Id: <200810010214.m912ETU1027456@net.indra.com> Received: from [65.125.64.227] (helo=MAX.feccommunications.net) by qsmtp4.america.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KkrES-0007kh-8f for h-costume@indra.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:14:28 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:13:17 -0500 To: Historical Costume From: Genie Barrett In-Reply-To: <055401c92331$d2b189f0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> References: <16a2233a0809301155h61616407jadc13b16f5ad1251@mail.gmail.com> <055401c92331$d2b189f0$2fa73743@denise8541f2db> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Subject: Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: afb5dd19-663f-45df-a993-dc29c6507614 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48E2DD16.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:14:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO At 02:22 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote: >>Well, this is sort of OT, but not quite. We're invited to a Halloween >>party, where the theme is movie characters, and the sub-theme is >>something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. Gypsy Rose Lee One of the strippers looked a lot like that, and so did she toward the end of the movie. Just get some long gloves Genie _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 23:25:34 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m913PYUi027957 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:25:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m913PTTw013520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:25:32 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m913OXNg015843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m913OW6s071933; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f10.google.com (mail-gx0-f10.google.com [209.85.217.10]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m913OUDc071876 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from reginalawsonv@gmail.com) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so14173383gxk.0 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=/vDxzxi27kP+S7/ouB92rkb6uNdseXwzYQhVGTzjOzE=; b=o4Av2QFohhQmeY2cYzA1haRM5AUdfgjUH6cLGAXYa0YE/kMiLpGRaoPJe5zoBDuh2g rsWvzzojZXNDEKpwmBYGoeBHzfFSF4H2nGwZHyW1iMgsTSse48YU7mcYtIloe5OfHM80 OJEFA9+PRS4O3EppxyPpoJezgcUStd8tUMSmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=T+lkPr9o4/EvrS6hOexqAi2rqtseE/u8ZGnIWMr5LBgAfqcSKEVnICUfmGi3Dk/IXX rrEhgGRIOIL5Y9/oQQHPNefzgUJHp3RZ1plqCKDkAW+QfswLOK8tfTQXXbA3ds19DTt6 syhepzCpgJtxovZpxxM+RECxKqtlnhghKo9nU= Received: by 10.150.197.8 with SMTP id u8mr2277642ybf.200.1222831464840; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.149.20 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:24 -0700 From: "Regina Voorhes" To: h-costume@mail.indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9e00a0a3-9d09-4778-8563-019b0e276966 X-Miltered: at mailchk-m01 with ID 48E2EDA9.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:25:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DIET_1,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m01.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Well, I am not allowed to get a dummy until I get the sewing room fixed (see previous issues about sewing rooms). My couch has parts of a linen kirtle for my 16th c. Irish stuff. My new bodice is languishing in a canvas tote bags (I use them instead of grocery bags, they last longer) I have a bunch of felt hats that are supposed to grow up to be silly Irish hats when my boss has time to help me steam them And I need a new Irish dress but the fabric shrank too much and is only enough for a big skirt now. Some of that stuff needs to be done by Oct. 11th, to go to Great Western War and then to the Marching Through History military timeline my group is doing the same weekend. I also have to make a jerkin for my Chief, a new suit for my partner who only has one pair of pants that fit after losing 100lbs and a ballgown before February. I am a slug and am talking to you folks instead of sewing. Wonder if I'll make it? Regina in L.A. PS - Anyone going to Great Western War October 11th? I will be there shopping and checking my Honey's archery friends. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From h-costume-bounces@indra.com Tue Sep 30 23:55:34 2008 Return-Path: Received: from mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (mailservices.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.141]) by sca.uwaterloo.ca (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m913tYBU031174 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:55:34 -0400 Received: from www1.indra.com (www1.indra.com [209.169.0.7]) by mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m913tTjN016215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:55:32 -0400 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by www1.indra.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m913tCVB017656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:55:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@indra.com) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m913tBUh090143; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:55:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from h-costume-bounces@mail.indra.com) Received: from web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.185]) by net.indra.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m913t7cO090052 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:55:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from faerieglenstudios@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 57030 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2008 03:55:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=dqLjUjFWEDUf25i/Hpo2JZVmW4EukpMjX0O3/zx9uH3VlyIk6JgqAbMs63XlWGtul01mG6myhioHF4sTfkcITKnZI7AsO6jC9uMvMgbxEa2u9HBtt2FmEi5kt11aLfHdeBEqVu45ZksjyWFIwFkajgmBagOfypvNQc/ntsv6GA0=; X-YMail-OSG: kRvkMncVM1k1F3DwoMalA3J_OpsNwGdG1VjjVI9dGxHjdpuy1DJ8TkN7PNgH__h4X0d1S9fQfDteWGITS5B2JI1ZQeLeQBBicqf3ntT.cIu_yPXCBCcHWooTYIUEjyCGB9X9 Received: from [70.58.45.211] by web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:55:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jodi Nelson To: h-costume@mail.indra.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <732636.54728.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com; whitelist X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.10 Subject: Re: [h-cost] What is your dressmaker's dummy wearing? X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Historical Costume List-Id: Historical Costume List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: h-costume-bounces@indra.com Errors-To: h-costume-bounces@indra.com X-UUID: 9c3bf99c-133f-479f-8ae7-d9b004a68fab X-Miltered: at mailchk-m02 with ID 48E2F4B1.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.232]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:55:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mailchk-m02.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO I don't have a dummy yet, but I do have 2 pairs harem pants, 2 pairs salwar pants, 1 Indian kameez, the Folkwear Bethany Dress, the Folkwear Gaza Dress, and some silk embroidery. Jodi Nelson _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume