From: owner-h-costume-digest (H-Costume Digest) To: h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Subject: H-Costume Digest V3 #243 Reply-To: h-costume Sender: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Errors-To: owner-h-costume-digest@lunch.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk H-Costume Digest Monday, November 6 1995 Volume 3, Number 243 Compilation copyright (C) 1995 Diane Barlow Close and Gretchen Miller Use in whole prohibited. Individual articles are the property of the author. Seek permission from that author before reprinting or quoting elsewhere. Important Addresses: Send submissions to: h-costume@lunch.engr.sgi.com (or reply to this message). Adds/drops/archives: majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com Real, live person: h-costume-request@andrew.cmu.edu Topics: Re: Elizabethan Costuming Straw Embroidery Re: ISBN Re: Elizabethan Costuming Lyric Auction Re: Elizabethan Costuming Victorian Fabrics "Victorian" Shoe Alert Sunset Blvd Costumes? Books In Print On Line? Dress Shop 2.0 Dynasties Exhibition at the Tate ISBN and "Books in Print" The Phoenix portrait "Hippie-bethan"??? Re: Sunset Blvd Costumes? entrelac knitting Archive update. Re: "Hippie-bethan"??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:38:10 -0500 (EST) From: Drea Leed Subject: Re: Elizabethan Costuming About corsets--I've told innumerable friends how to make them, made people patterns, scrawled measurements and instructions on the back of napkins, etc. I know that the Savoy/Winter book does a thorough job of explaining it, but a lot of people can't get that. Would there be much desire for a web page on how to make a corset? I'd just go ahead and make it, but I'm too busy to do so right now unless a number of people think it would be useful. Drea ******************************************* We've secretly replaced their dilithium crystals with new Folger's Crystals. Now let's watch them to to warp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 21:47:16 +0100 From: Harri Kulju Subject: Straw Embroidery In response to the person who was looking for information about straw embroidery in the Readers Digest Complete Guide to Needlework: I have the 1983 edition and I've flipped through it as well as checking the index. There is nothing in this edition about straw embroidery, unfortunately. Erin Winslow e88hk@efd.lth.se ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:30:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Sarah E. Goodman" Subject: Re: ISBN I don't have the ISBN on this. There isn't one on the first edition (and the never verison is out on loan). The authors are the other mother of my (step) children and a family friends, though, and I can get anyone who needs it in touch with them. E-mail me. *************************************************************************** Sarah E. Goodman goodston@well.sf.ca.us goodston@netcom.com goodston@river.org Senior Designer & Chief Cat Herder, Wee Cottage, Daly City, California, USA *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:33:03 -0800 From: Joan Broneske Subject: Re: Elizabethan Costuming Drea, If you do decide to do a web page about making a corset, let me know and I will put a link to it on my web page! Joan Broneske unicorn@calweb.com ,,/ /(-\ ############################################# ,__'/`-' /()__) http://www.calweb.com/~unicorn/index.html // \\ '' '' ############################################# ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:39 CST From: tallison@mcs.com (Tim Allison) Subject: Lyric Auction For anyone near Chicago, the Lyric Opera is disposing of a large number of costumes this Sunday. The sale sounds pretty spectacular. Carol Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:46:05 +0100 (MET) From: Ingela Sjömark Subject: Re: Elizabethan Costuming According to Drea Leed: > > About corsets--I've told innumerable friends how to make them, made > people patterns, scrawled measurements and instructions on the back of > napkins, etc. I know that the Savoy/Winter book does a thorough job of > explaining it, but a lot of people can't get that. Would there be much > desire for a web page on how to make a corset? I'd just go ahead and > make it, but I'm too busy to do so right now unless a number of people > think it would be useful. > > Drea That would be an exelent idea! I've tried to borough the Savoy/Winter book at the library, but the book isn't available here in Sweden. I don't know of any book available about corsets here. I know of several people who would like to have such a web page. And for those of my friend who doesn't have net-access, I could write about it in our membership-newspaper, with our permission of course. And I would link the web page to my future home page! /Ingela - -- /~~\________________________/~~\ ! oo ! ! ! \__/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_/ \ Ingela Sj|mark \ \ Ingrid S|mmerska \ \ \ \ ingela@ludd.luth.se \ \ \ /~~\___________________________~~\ ! oo ! ! ! \__/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_/ ------------------------------ Date: 04 Nov 95 11:10:50 EST From: "Dawn T. Jacobson" <74647.1271@compuserve.com> Subject: Victorian Fabrics In response to several questions regarding Victorian fabrics: There are no "modern" fabrics that truly replace Victorian fabrics. Textile manufacturers were able to use processes that were more labor-intensive and environmentally unkind. The closest you can come to reproducing a period garment is to use fabrics made of fibers that were used then: wool, silk, cotton, linen. If you do a lot of re-enactments, want one dress you can wear for years, and aren't allergic to it, wool is the best investment. It wears well, always seems to look nice and has good insulating properties (even when wet). The second best investment, if you can find it, is heavy-weight, plain-weave cotton. I have a dress made of plain black cotton in a very simple, mid-19th C. style (you really can't tell what period it is, just by looking at it). I've been wearing it for the past 10 years, and I'll probably get another 10 years of wear out of it. The trick if finding the right cotton--this stuff is 100% cotton, a plain weave, and moderately heavy. For ballgowns, the difference in price between high-quality poly taffeta and real silk is so small, you might as well make the dress out of silk. Remember, you're worth it! 8-) Linen is great for underpinnings, if you can find thin enough linen--unfortunately, most modern linens are too heavy and too full of slubs for underpinnings. A reasonable alternative is 100% cotton. I personally use 100% cotton batiste made by P&B Mills. It's a little impractical, as it doesn't wear as well as a heavier cotton would, but it's so thin, light, and comfortable, I'll put up with having to make myself extra sets of underwear. Dawn T. Jacobson 74647.1271@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: 04 Nov 95 11:10:54 EST From: "Dawn T. Jacobson" <74647.1271@compuserve.com> Subject: "Victorian" Shoe Alert For all those people looking for "Victorian" shoes for Dicken's Fair, holiday balls, etc., Marshall's ( a discount clothes/shoes chain) presently has Bandolino high-topped shoes for just under $50. They are leather, black, have a 1 1/2-inch French heel, and lace up. The only flaws are the very pointy toes (if you have wide feet, you have to buy them a 1/2-size larger), and they have speed-lacers (but those always can be removed). Not all Marshall's may carry them, and it may be difficult to find all sizes, but hey! what do you want for $50? 8) Happy hunting! Dawn T. "Imelda" Jacobson 74647.1271@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:46:20 -0800 From: kondoa@ucs.orst.edu Subject: Sunset Blvd Costumes? I saw a clip from the current stage production of "Sunset Blvd" & was interested in trying to find pictures of the costumes. Does anyone know if there is a book or programme available which would show some of them? Alison ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 21:18:12 -0500 From: Tracy023@aol.com Subject: Books In Print On Line? As long as we're on the subject, does anyone know if we can access Books in Print through our own computers on the Web or elsewhere? Thanks. Tracy Tracy023@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:28:08 -0800 From: Joan Broneske Subject: Dress Shop 2.0 I have Dress Shop 2.0 software that I would like to sell, if anybody is interested. It is a patternmaker software, that you enter your measurements and it = prints out a pattern to your exact specifications. It has a database of basic patterns for bodices, skirts, pants, sleeves, jackets and collars. The reason I am selling it is because I now have Windows 95 and I am only going to be using 32 bit programs that are better compatible with Win 95. Dress Shop 2.0 works great, but not with my Win 95. If anyone is interested, I am asking $50.00 for it. I paid $120.00. It has all the most recent upgrades, handbooks and measurement charts. E-mail me and we could work out some kind of C.O.D. arrangement. The software works fine, in fact I hardly ever used it, just because I didn't really have the time to. Joan Broneske unicorn@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com/~unicorn/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 06 Nov 95 06:21:46 EST From: Rhane <74404.22@compuserve.com> Subject: Dynasties Exhibition at the Tate Hello all! Mrs Yeldham asked me to forward this to the list. - -Rhane From: Mrs C S Yeldham To: Rhane <74404.22@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: Living History 1500s Date: 06 Nov 95 10:26:00 GMT <<...someone on the h-costume asked me for catalogue details relating to the Dynasties exhibition. I've got them (below) ... Would you mind sending it to the list?... >> Dynasties: Painting in Tudor and Jacobean England 1530 - 1630. ISBN 1 85437 169 x (cloth) ISBN 1 85437 157 6 (paper) Write to Tate Publishing, c/o The Tate Gallery, Millbank, London, SW1 4RG, or ring the Tate on 0171 887 8000 and ask for the mail order department. Thanks Caroline ------------------------------ Date: 06 Nov 1995 10:13:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Library - Vineland Research Station Subject: ISBN and "Books in Print" Most, if not all, public, college or university libraries should be able to give you an ISBN number from their print or CD-ROM version of "Books in Print" and they'll usually give you an answer over the telephone. Sheridan Alder library@onrsvi.agr.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:45:59 -0500 From: WRASaylor@aol.com Subject: The Phoenix portrait Does anyone know of anyother books showing the "Phoenix" portrait of Elizabeth I. This is the one shown in Patterns of Fashion (1560-1620), Janet Arnold, page 9, plate 39. Thank you. - Rhodry (please send any responses to rsaylor@pogonip.scs.unr.edu - thanks) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:39:44 -0500 (EST) From: Annikki Weston Subject: "Hippie-bethan"??? Forgive me, oh great historical costuming gurus, for I have sinned and created a monstrosity! Faded denim -- direct from an old pair of jeans! - -- bodice with florescent green and yellow trim, florescent yellow skirt. Tie-dyed chemise to be coming soon. It's ... frightening. An insane costumer's nightmare, perhaps? Makes for a really silly costume amongst SCA-dian friends, and it was great showing up at a Halloween party in it! "Make love, not armadas!" Nikki Weston weston@tardis.svsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:31:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Kimberly R. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Sunset Blvd Costumes? On Sat, 4 Nov 1995 kondoa@ucs.orst.edu wrote: > I saw a clip from the current stage production of > "Sunset Blvd" & was interested in trying to find pictures > of the costumes. Does anyone know if there is a book or > programme available which would show some of them? There are souvenir programs that have pictures, you can probably get them from Dress Circle in London. Theie address is, to the best of my ability to recall, 57/59 Monmouth St, Upper St Martin's Lane, London, England, WC2H 8HB. (I'm not certain about the zip code, but I think that's it.) There is a book on the making of Sunset Boulevard, but it focuses on the London production before they revamped everything. I don't have any of the information on it, but try some local bookstores. Also, the liner notes from the cast recordings have some pictures in them, although not as many as I'm sure we'd all like. Kimberly R. Gilbert Dreamers have shooting stars they chase SCA Anne Fenton There are others with nightmares they must face Only dreamers have wings with which to fly far away ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:11:48 -0600 From: reaves@tuvok.marian.edu (Anne Reaves) Subject: entrelac knitting I am trying to backdate entrelac (birchbark) knitting. The earliest versions I've seen are late 19th Scandinavian stockings. Does anyone know earlier references or museum examples? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:32:18 -0800 (PST) From: close (Diane Barlow Close) Subject: Archive update. I've changed the archive around a bit to make it more efficient. The faq's are now stored in a directory called FAQ. The hcos.95* files, which are all the 1995 back issues before the switch to automation with subsequent v03.n* numbering scheme, have been moved to a directory called hcos-95a. At the end of the year I will move the v03.n* issues to hcos-95b and switch to "v04.n*" numbering for 1996. So if you are looking for something specific, be sure to get a current index if you can't find it! It probably just moved a bit. :-) Here's a reminder on how to access the archives followed by a reminder on unsubscribing from the list: Archives are available by using e-mail, from the archive server, majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. To get an index of available files, send a message with the words: index h-costume as the body of the message, to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. Then use the command: get h-costume filename where "filename" is the actual name of the file, to retrieve the named file. Multiple requests per message are allowed. I suggest starting with the files CONTENTS and TOPICS. Note that they are spelled in all capital letters -- the server is case sensitive. When you get an index of files back, you'll notice that some file names are spelled in all capital letters and some are a mix of lower case letters and numbers. Request them exactly as you see them listed. I.e. if you request "contents" you'll get back an error message, but if you ask for CONTENTS you'll get back that file. The CONTENTS file is a list of all the topics discussed, split up by volume numbers. The TOPICS file is an alphabetical list of all the topics discussed, and a notation that tells you in which volume they can be found. So, if you wanted the file called TOPICS you'd send: get h-costume TOPICS as the body of a message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com and the server would send you back that file. To unsubscribe from the list, send a message to: majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com In that message, say one of the following as the body of the message: unsubscribe h-costume end (if you are signed up to the direct mail version) or unsubscribe h-costume-digest end (if you are signed up to the digest version.) - -- Diane Close close@lunch.engr.sgi.com I'm at lunch all day. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:29:14 -0500 (EST) From: Drea Leed Subject: Re: "Hippie-bethan"??? Sounds like a winner for a tacky tunic contest. The only thing I've ever seen that sounds worse was a beautifully cut renaissance italian gown... made out of he-man sheets. Ugh. Drea p.s. Due to the overwhelming clobber-me-over-the-head positive response I got concerning the corset page, it's now underway. Drea On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Annikki Weston wrote: > Forgive me, oh great historical costuming gurus, for I have sinned and > created a monstrosity! Faded denim -- direct from an old pair of jeans! > -- bodice with florescent green and yellow trim, florescent yellow > skirt. Tie-dyed chemise to be coming soon. It's ... frightening. An > insane costumer's nightmare, perhaps? Makes for a really > silly costume amongst SCA-dian friends, and it was great showing up at a > Halloween party in it! > > "Make love, not armadas!" > Nikki Weston > weston@tardis.svsu.edu > > ******************************************* We've secretly replaced their dilithium crystals with new Folger's Crystals. Now let's watch them to to warp. ------------------------------ End of H-Costume Digest V3 #243 ******************************* A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, send the command lines: unsubscribe h-costume-digest subscribe h-costume end in the body of a message to majordomo@lunch.engr.sgi.com. Thanks and enjoy the list!